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#1    Saru

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:49 AM

The unmanned privately funded mission could see a telescope set up on top of a lunar mountain.

Russia Today said:

The launch of Manís first-ever mission to the Moonís south pole was announced by two private US companies which plan to set telescopes on top of a lunar mountain as early as 2016.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:36 PM

Has there ever been an attempt to land on the dark side of the moon? I have always been curious about what may be there.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:11 PM

good luck in transporting the mirror from earth to moon


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 06:03 PM

View Postmoonshadow60, on 21 July 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Has there ever been an attempt to land on the dark side of the moon? I have always been curious about what may be there.

Not sure if there has been a landing, but the "so-called" dark side of the moon has been imaged by orbiting spacecraft many times.

Remember, the "dark side" of the moon is only dark to us on Earth.

It's "dark side" is actually sun-illuminated collectively as much as the "bright-side"
We on Earth just never see it because of the way our Moon is "locked" in rotation.

Ever seen a "crescent moon" or such? Of course, everyone has.
What most do not realize is that during that event the Sun substantially illuminates part of the so-called "dark side" as if a bright day.

And during a "total lunar eclipse", the entire dark side of the moon is as bright as day as well. Only moon orbiting satellites can see that.
NASA has many pics of this.

Edited by pallidin, 21 July 2013 - 06:04 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 06:24 PM

I didn't know that, Pallidin.  Thank you.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:03 PM

The more space telescopes the merrier.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:17 PM

View Postpallidin, on 21 July 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

And during a "total lunar eclipse", the entire dark side of the moon is as bright as day as well. Only moon orbiting satellites can see that.
NASA has many pics of this.
Not just during a solar eclipse, every time there's a new moon on earth, the "dark side" of the moon is fully illuminated.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:57 PM

View Postmoonshadow60, on 21 July 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Has there ever been an attempt to land on the dark side of the moon? I have always been curious about what may be there.

View Postmoonshadow60, on 21 July 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Has there ever been an attempt to land on the dark side of the moon? I have always been curious about what may be there.

No not yet, w would need some sats in place first for communication.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 07:59 PM

Paladin, I think you mean total soler eclipse.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:27 PM

View Postmoonshadow60, on 21 July 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

I didn't know that, Pallidin.  Thank you.

Yes, you can do a simple experiment to visualize what happens. In a darkened room take  a lamp, remove the shade, have a friend hold a ball in their hand (anything from a tennis ball to a volley ball, whatever) and walk around the lamp while you remain stationary just below the light bulb so as not to block the "sun". You can see the phase that the moon exhibits easily this way. If you color one side of the ball you can and always keep that side toward you, you can see not only the "light side of moon" but the "dark side" as well goes through the same phases of illumination.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:04 PM

Cover the true reason. Just like the whaling. For scientific research! Yeah ok.Ow and whilst were here lets do some mining. All for galactic conquest :)


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:36 PM

View Postbigjonalien, on 21 July 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

Cover the true reason.
The article did. That you chose not to believe it is your problem.

View Postbigjonalien, on 21 July 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

Just like the whaling. For scientific research! Yeah ok.Ow and whilst were here lets do some mining. All for galactic conquest :)
That's total and utter nonsense.
Why would they lie about it? When the time comes for commercial lunar mining then the companies that attempt it will be open about it, just as those who have started up with the intention of mining are open about it now.

This is a small research craft. No mining is involved, unless you have discovered how to mine using a telescope, I'd be interested to learn how that works.

The vehicle has no ability to return material to the Earth so even if there is some magical way to mine using a telescope (which there isn't) mining would be pointless.

At the moment lunar mining is simply not commercially viable and will probably remain that way for some considerable time to go. However there are as the article says, resources at the lunar poles which could help support future bases on the moon.

One day man will mine the moon, but not yet.

There is simply no connection between whaling and scientific missions to the moon.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:02 AM

I have to agree with dwarf.  Whaling came long before research real or fake came along.  First for food then oil then research.

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Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:40 AM

View Postdanielost, on 21 July 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

Paladin, I think you mean total soler eclipse.

Sorry, my bad.


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Posted 22 July 2013 - 01:27 AM

after seeing Moonshadow's comment, and having some vague childhood memory of the russians sending a probe to the far (not dark) side of the moon (they were the first to land on the moon, but not the far side.) i came across this page-
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http://m.wisegeek.co...e-the-earth.htm
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and thank christ i chose this site instead of that one.
some of the comments on there had me spitting coffee with hilarity!
i honestly didn't know people could be so preposterously stoopid!!
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