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#241    ComfortableWithCorpses

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:46 PM

View PostMaizer, on 14 December 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Well if you think it's too late and impossible to cleanse the country of guns like Japan, then I won't argue much.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:46 PM

Sources told the New York Postthat Lanza had 'had a dispute with' his mother, who was found dead at her home. He then drove to the school in her car and gunned down her kindergarten class, Fox reported.

Even this doesn't make sense.  These reporters need to slow it down.

Edited by Sweetpumper, 14 December 2012 - 10:47 PM.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:46 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

Wow, just the US huh?

Again, why the **** do people bring their own agendas into such a tragic topic?........Sick.

No it isnt unique to US society but the US is producing more shooters every year than the rest of the world combined.

The US needs to screen its population for narcissistic disorders and tweak is policies to stop the production of more.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:47 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

I can't even imagine. My heart goes out to them. I just went to my 6 year old's Christmas Program 3 days ago and all I can think about is how excited him and all of his classmates were about Christmas. I can't even fathom what those poor parents are enduring right now..

My 7 year old daughter was meant to be the narrator  of her class nativity play 2 days ago, sadly she fell ill and spent the last few days in bed sick..  Her little brother  ( 7 months old ) also took sick..  They both seen a doctor and are resting...  She cried because she missed her school play.. Bless her ..

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:48 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Save it.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:50 PM

View PostMr Right Wing, on 14 December 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

No it isnt unique to US society but the US is producing more shooters every year than the rest of the world combined.

The US needs to screen its population for narcissistic disorders and tweak is policies to stop the production of more.

I don't think the U.S. is any more crazy. We're nowhere near perfect, but I'd bet this country actually is a lot more mentally healthy than nations that are not as prosperous or have high moral values.

Edited by Maizer, 14 December 2012 - 10:50 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:53 PM

View PostSakari, on 14 December 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Dude,

This topic is not about a gun or no gun debate......Kids died for Christ Sake!!!!!!

Make a new topic, and quit using this news for a gun debate......Sick, very sick.

Im sorry, what? your font is too small. :geek:


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 10:57 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

I suppose the nation would sleep much more sound if 27 people were just critically injured.

What if the next coward decides to use a bomb?
Or a sword?
Or a GodDamn Candy Cane?

What will everyone argue about then?

See the last line of my previous statement, REGARDLESS OF MANNER OR MEANS.


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Not really.  We'd actually be thinking "Wow imagine if they had a gun,  they would have been killed."   The means to kill someone should not be so easily available.  Yes they coud blow up the school. They could do all sorts of things.  However there is an appeal with a gun.  You are not being honest.  Ex.  A person with a knife is going to get bloody. It's hard to kill someone with a knife.  You have to get close. They can fight back.   Young people are raised on video games.  They sit in their homes.  Target practice.   Shooting moving targets.  A shooter will like making his game come to life.   There's a sport and a game in it. That is not in a bombing or fire.  It is distant.   The issue is not just guns.  The psychology of a mass murderer makes a gun. An ideal weapon of choice.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

View PostCassea, on 14 December 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Not really.  We'd actually be thinking "Wow imagine if they had a gun,  they would have been killed."   The means to kill someone should not be so easily available.  Yes they coud blow up the school. They could do all sorts of things.  However there is an appeal with a gun.  You are not being honest.  Ex.  A person with a knife is going to get bloody. It's hard to kill someone with a knife.  You have to get close. They can fight back.   Young people are raised on video games.  They sit in their homes.  Target practice.   Shooting moving targets.  A shooter will like making his game come to life.   There's a sport and a game in it. That is not in a bombing or fire.  It is distant.   The issue is not just guns.  The psychology of a mass murderer makes a gun. An ideal weapon of choice.


Careful now...   There is no evidence that the shooter spent time playing violent video games.

I would bet he did, but there is no evidence of that yet.

And there is no correlation between playing violent games and carrying out violent acts.  I play tons of violent games.  And I don't even kill spiders, I kindly escort them out of the house...

Edited by tapirmusic, 14 December 2012 - 11:01 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

View PostCassea, on 14 December 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

Not really.  We'd actually be thinking "Wow imagine if they had a gun,  they would have been killed."   The means to kill someone should not be so easily available.  Yes they coud blow up the school. They could do all sorts of things.  However there is an appeal with a gun.  You are not being honest.  Ex.  A person with a knife is going to get bloody. It's hard to kill someone with a knife.  You have to get close. They can fight back.   Young people are raised on video games.  They sit in their homes.  Target practice.   Shooting moving targets.  A shooter will like making his game come to life.   There's a sport and a game in it. That is not in a bombing or fire.  It is distant.   The issue is not just guns.  The psychology of a mass murderer makes a gun. An ideal weapon of choice.

I'm not being honest about what?

I'm not Pro-Gun..
I'm not Anti-Gun..

I'm Anti-Murder of innocent children.

Feel free to argue with me about this now.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:03 PM

View PostMaizer, on 14 December 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

I don't think the U.S. is any more crazy. We're nowhere near perfect, but I'd bet this country actually is a lot more mentally healthy than nations that are not as prosperous or have high moral values.

In the context of the US I quote 'The rate of mental illness is staggering' and '25% of Americans have a mental disorder at some point' - http://www.webmd.com...s-is-staggering - I also quote 'researchers still consider the figure an underestimate'

I also quote 'Among the study's findings are an 18% rate of anxiety disorders and a 10% rate of mood disorders in the U.S. Both figures are above that of any other country, but range far beyond what is found in places such as Shanghai, which showed just a 2.4% rate of anxiety and a 1.7% rate of depression'

A lot of US citizens are negative and abusive towards each other. What you call a lack of respect or a broken society is actually mental illness. The abused become the abusers and the chain continues with the occasional person going nuts and shooting everyone.

Edited by Mr Right Wing, 14 December 2012 - 11:05 PM.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:03 PM

so sad.. its stories like this that do make you question gun control in the US..


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

View PostComfortableWithCorpses, on 14 December 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

I'm not being honest about what?

I'm not Pro-Gun..
I'm not Anti-Gun..

I'm Anti-Murder of innocent children.

Feel free to argue with me about this now.

Well I am anti-murder of ALL children.

HAH!

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

View Postwith bells on, on 14 December 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

so sad.. its stories like this that do make you question gun control in the US..

what are you doing awake?


and yes we are all questioning it.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:07 PM

View Posttapirmusic, on 14 December 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

Careful now...   There is no evidence that the shooter spent time playing violent video games.

I would bet he did, but there is no evidence of that yet.

And there is no correlation between playing violent games and carrying out violent acts.  I play tons of violent games.  And I don't even kill spiders, I kindly escort them out of the house...


Did I say there was?  I pointed it out.  Because killers have the opportunity to target practice.  Before the real deal.  It is especially dangerous.  Think.  You don't get to practice stabbing someone to death?   How could you practice other methods of murder?   But with guns.  Just by playing video games.  You can practice murder.

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Well I am anti-murder of ALL children.

HAH!

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Me too.  I don't get his point at all.

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