antiaging Posted February 5, 2005 #1 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Psalms 68:17 The chariots of God [are] twenty thousand, [even] thousands of angels: the Lord [is] among them, [as in] Sinai, in the holy [place]. A chariot is a conveyance or vehicle. In psalm 68:17 it shows that angels are associated with chariots. Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. Many UFO abductees say that the aliens came and spoke to them in a dream, while they were in their beds. Flying objects in the Bible that are associated with angels resemble UFOs: Elijah's chariot of fire, the cloudlike pillar that led the Israelites through the desert and Ezekiel's wheel within a wheel. Some UFO aliens look just like humans; so do angels in the old testament. Some UFO aliens look like creatures; so did the creatures that Ezekiel saw. UFOs have been seen going off into outer space (the second heaven). They can't be demons because demons were cast down to the earth and can't leave the planet. Demons do not appear in physical form, but they inhabit other bodies like people, the serpent in the garden, the pigs that commited suicide in the new testament. Angels, like UFO aliens have appeared in physical form and disappeared into thin air. Demons do not have flying objects associated with them, angels do. UFO aliens walk through walls and abduct people. An angel passed into the jail and walked Peter out though he was surrounded by guards. Angels, the sons of God in Genesis 6:2, had sex with earth women; some female ufo abductees claim they either had sex with aliens are were impregnated with half human half alien babies, which were later removed during another ufo abduction. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that demons have sex with people. An angel announced to Mary that she would have a child while still a virgin; she was impregnated. Angels act as God's hands to do His will. The Biblical evidence strongly suggests that UFO aliens are angels and not demons. If UFO aliens are the angels of God then the second coming of Jesus Christ will be a UFO invasion, since the Bible says He is coming back with angels. They will abduct sinners and throw them in hell and abduct saints and put them in heaven In Acts 9:3-6, and Acts 22:6-10, the apostle Paul tells about a bright light in the sky that was seen by him and others with him, and the Lord Jesus spoke to him from this light. This is an incident where Jesus is associated directly with a UFO. The Bible is what christians are supposed to use to judge truth. In the Bible, UFOs are associated with angels and the Lord Jesus. There are no flying objects associated with demons anywhere in the Bible. The Biblical evidence shows UFO aliens to be what the Bible describes as the host of heaven or angels and not demons. There is no Biblical reason to consider the Sons of God in Genesis 6:2 to be rebellious and there is no reason to consider them to be fallen angels. Read the King James scriptures for what they say. It says that they took wives of Earth women. They were married; this was not rape. The law of Moses was not given yet and they violated no law of God to do this. Their children were blessed to become mighty men of renown. This indicates that God had favor on these marriages. There is no scripture that says that these Sons of God were disobeying God to marry Earth women. Jesus himself is called a Son of God, this shows that the Sons of God in Genesis were acting in God's will. Luke 1:35 ...therefore also that Holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. The Son of God class angels are probably the Nordic type aliens that look just like humans, and they are probably the angels that married Earth women in Genesis 6:2 and had children with them. Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. The word translated "among" does not require identification in the sense that would try to say that the sons of God were working with Satan. It does not mean that the sons of God were fallen angels or demons. The fact that they are called sons of God indicates that they are angels that do God’s will. For example, we read: "And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God AMONG the trees of the garden." (Gen. 3:8) Same Hebrew word as Job 1. Are we to believe that Adam and Eve were being identified as trees? "Among" could also be translated "in the midst of", or something to that effect. Satan came and presented himself to God in the midst of the sons of God. It does not mean that the sons of God were working with Satan. The sons of God are not demons. The Bible indicates that the [human like] angels of God have physical bodies: Daniel 9:21 Yea, whiles I [was] speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation. The angel that appeared to Samson's parents: Judges 13:11 And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, [Art] thou the man that spakest unto the woman? And he said, I [am]. Judges 13:20 For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on [it], and fell on their faces to the ground. Jacob wrestled with an angel of God. He must have been physical. Genesis 32:1 And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him. Genesis 32:2 And when Jacob saw them, he said, This [is] God's host: and he called the name of that place Mahanaim. Genesis 32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. Genesis 32:25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. Genesis 32:26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. Genesis 32:27 And he said unto him, What [is] thy name? And he said, Jacob. Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. Genesis 32:29 And Jacob asked [him], and said, Tell [me], I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore [is] it [that] thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. Genesis 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Those are three cases where angels of God are also called men, and the one that wrestled with Jacob was definitely a physical man and not a spirit. The angels of God [the human-like ones have physical bodies like men.] They may have abilities to appear and disappear and ascend upward in a flame without being hurt, but those scriptures indicate that they are like men and have physical bodies. [shadrach, Meshack, and abednigo had physical bodies and the fiery furnace did not hurt them.] That angel, which is also called a man, that wrestled with Jacob, had to be physical to wrestle with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphys Law Posted February 5, 2005 #2 Share Posted February 5, 2005 If angels were aliens what would they benefit from prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotoke Posted February 5, 2005 #3 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) no just no demons are not aliens If UFO aliens are the angels of God then the second coming of Jesus Christ will be a UFO invasion what if i told you that jesus never existed? and stop assuming every light is a ufo it is not. you ASSUME they are but it could very well be something else IMO christianity is not the correct religion and christianity is not the only religion you know.... hinduism has more to do with aliens, what was it again vimanas? Edited February 5, 2005 by Hotoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #4 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. Yes, Heaven is in 'space'. Yes, angels are stars, yet have many varied forms, most the furthest removed from looking human, yet can shapeshift and appear human. No, God is not an alien, angels are not aliens, the Nephilim HYBRID OFFSPRING (the giants/Nephilim in Genesis, Enoch, etc) of angels and humans, in their soul form are aliens. Comprende? These offspring are literally deomons. The term demon is used ONLY for the hybrid offspring of angels and humans as recorded in the full version of Solomon, of whom he had these demons build his city. Aliens are demons, and demons are aliens. Fallen angels are NOT demons, or aliens, they are fallen angels. Edited February 5, 2005 by Ashley-Star*Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #5 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) Nowhere in the Bible does it say that demons have sex with people How well do you research? Demons like I said above are the result of angels and human women. That IS in the Bible, and it was done with sex not some wierd form of test tube technology. They got cast out because of it, all 200 of them. Edited February 5, 2005 by Ashley-Star*Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richdog Posted February 5, 2005 #6 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, No, it doesn't , because your word is no more credible than my neighbours cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #7 Share Posted February 5, 2005 And of course they have physical bodies, so does God! It's only because certain people in the Christian faith along the line decided to censor information that they didn't understand that people don't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #8 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, No, it doesn't , because your word is no more credible than my neighbours cat. 476685[/snapback] And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. Edited February 5, 2005 by Ashley-Star*Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richdog Posted February 5, 2005 #9 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, No, it doesn't , because your word is no more credible than my neighbours cat. 476685[/snapback] And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. 476690[/snapback] Nope I do post a lot of discussion on the board. My comment was a direct response to your belief that you are the first and last word on God and religion, angels and whatever. The language you use... Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. That is a CLEAR implication that you cannot believe that people still need to discuss this issue, as YOU have already told them what they need to know. It cannot be taken any other way, it is incredibly arrogant. My response is just to let you know that the majority of people do not take your word as any sort of gospel regarding these issues, you have no credibility beyond your own claim it is true, so should not claim otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #10 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, No, it doesn't , because your word is no more credible than my neighbours cat. 476685[/snapback] And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. 476690[/snapback] Nope I do post a lot of discussion on the board. My comment was a direct response to your belief that you are the first and last word on God and religion, angels and whatever. The language you use... Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. That is a CLEAR implication that you cannot believe that people still need to discuss this issue, as YOU have already told them what they need to know. It cannot be taken any other way, it is incredibly arrogant. My response is just to let you know that the majority of people do not take your word as any sort of gospel regarding these issues, you have no credibility beyond your own claim it is true, so should not claim otherwise. 476694[/snapback] Well, that's your opinion. I've researched these issues intensely, whether you like it or not. And still you have not contributed anything to this post. If you don't know about a subject, leave it and move on, mere criticisms which add no other alternative to the original post are not a contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #11 Share Posted February 5, 2005 The world is broad and wide. I'm sure you can find something here you are knowledgable on, other than showing your blatant ignorance for subjects for which you obviously don't comprehend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richdog Posted February 5, 2005 #12 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, No, it doesn't , because your word is no more credible than my neighbours cat. 476685[/snapback] And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. 476690[/snapback] Nope I do post a lot of discussion on the board. My comment was a direct response to your belief that you are the first and last word on God and religion, angels and whatever. The language you use... Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. That is a CLEAR implication that you cannot believe that people still need to discuss this issue, as YOU have already told them what they need to know. It cannot be taken any other way, it is incredibly arrogant. My response is just to let you know that the majority of people do not take your word as any sort of gospel regarding these issues, you have no credibility beyond your own claim it is true, so should not claim otherwise. 476694[/snapback] Well, that's your opinion. I've researched these issues intensely, whether you like it or not. And still you have not contributed anything to this post. If you don't know about a subject, leave it and move on, mere criticisms which add no other alternative to the original post are not a contribution. 476704[/snapback] That's also 99% of the rest of the forums opinion from the threads i've read. You have intensely researched a book that is not accepted by Christianity and is considered a fake by many. Not only that but you believe every word written in it, despite the lack of evidence of any truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 5, 2005 #13 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, No, it doesn't , because your word is no more credible than my neighbours cat. 476685[/snapback] And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. 476690[/snapback] Nope I do post a lot of discussion on the board. My comment was a direct response to your belief that you are the first and last word on God and religion, angels and whatever. The language you use... Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. That is a CLEAR implication that you cannot believe that people still need to discuss this issue, as YOU have already told them what they need to know. It cannot be taken any other way, it is incredibly arrogant. My response is just to let you know that the majority of people do not take your word as any sort of gospel regarding these issues, you have no credibility beyond your own claim it is true, so should not claim otherwise. 476694[/snapback] Well, that's your opinion. I've researched these issues intensely, whether you like it or not. And still you have not contributed anything to this post. If you don't know about a subject, leave it and move on, mere criticisms which add no other alternative to the original post are not a contribution. 476704[/snapback] That's also 99% of the rest of the forums opinion from the threads i've read. You have intensely researched a book that is not accepted by Christianity and is considered a fake by many. Not only that but you believe every word written in it, despite the lack of evidence of any truth. 476720[/snapback] And your point is? Sometimes you have to look outside the square. What do you care anyway, you're not Christian to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scipherel Posted February 5, 2005 #14 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) post deleted by scip Edited February 5, 2005 by scipherel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotoke Posted February 5, 2005 #15 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) christianity is not the correct religion Hotoke, Christianity is wriiten in english and you understand english so you have a better understanding of religion. I need to reincarnate in your country to know your religion. As i have no more time to study it today. Your God should have made the languange you use as the main language in this world so people could understand it better. 477246[/snapback] i have no religion, i was saying this because it clearly invalidates the beliefs of other people, saying that jesus wil come in a ufo etc. it makes it look like christianity is the good religion and others are wrong Edited February 5, 2005 by Hotoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scipherel Posted February 5, 2005 #16 Share Posted February 5, 2005 sorry hotoke, i don't mean to offend you honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scipherel Posted February 5, 2005 #17 Share Posted February 5, 2005 If angels were aliens what would they benefit from prayer 476579[/snapback] and also mean that Angels abducts human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack0fhearts Posted February 6, 2005 #18 Share Posted February 6, 2005 It's all very sad that the Bible has about 76 books, so many chapters, so many versus. The probability to say something that's actually right with modern science is great, yet forseeable. This universe is large, governed by no god, but by coincidence and everlasting growth to form the unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted February 6, 2005 #19 Share Posted February 6, 2005 what was it again vimanas? Ahh vimanas, such an interesting topic. I wish for once something like THAT would come up instead of the old "Is atlantis real!?" crap. Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. Maybe thats because you have no authority over what is true and what is false? Yes, Heaven is in 'space'. Yes, angels are stars, yet have many varied forms, most the furthest removed from looking human, yet can shapeshift and appear human. No, God is not an alien, angels are not aliens, the Nephilim HYBRID OFFSPRING (the giants/Nephilim in Genesis, Enoch, etc) of angels and humans, in their soul form are aliens. Comprende? No, heaven does not exist. No, angels are not stars. Yes, god does not exist. Comprende? And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? Well, obviously you do care, because you were just complaining that people didnt take your word for it. If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. This comming from a person who says her belief and her belief alone is proven fact, and those who dont believe are ignorant? Sometimes you have to look outside the square. What do you care anyway, you're not Christian to begin with. Maybe he cares because all you do on this forum is tell others that only your belief is right, and is fact, and the rest are wrong? Anyway: Antiaging, have you met Norman yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richdog Posted February 6, 2005 #20 Share Posted February 6, 2005 The world is broad and wide. I'm sure you can find something here you are knowledgable on, other than showing your blatant ignorance for subjects for which you obviously don't comprehend. 476707[/snapback] Wow, coming from someone who's only area of expertise is on things that aren't real? That must be the ultimate contradiction... I can talk about most of the subjects on this board, and anything I don't know I can absorb. Can you? What posts do you ever make that aren't regarding religion, and non-sensical to boot? I keep hearing rumours you have a very high I.Q, yet we see no evidence of it, just gibberish and petty outbursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 6, 2005 #21 Share Posted February 6, 2005 what was it again vimanas? Ahh vimanas, such an interesting topic. I wish for once something like THAT would come up instead of the old "Is atlantis real!?" crap. Obviously, it doesn't matter how many times I repeat myself, I still find the same topics coming up. Maybe thats because you have no authority over what is true and what is false? Yes, Heaven is in 'space'. Yes, angels are stars, yet have many varied forms, most the furthest removed from looking human, yet can shapeshift and appear human. No, God is not an alien, angels are not aliens, the Nephilim HYBRID OFFSPRING (the giants/Nephilim in Genesis, Enoch, etc) of angels and humans, in their soul form are aliens. Comprende? No, heaven does not exist. No, angels are not stars. Yes, god does not exist. Comprende? And I'm supposed to care what you think...because??? Well, obviously you do care, because you were just complaining that people didnt take your word for it. If that's the best reason you can find to add a comment on a thread, then I'd suggest you re-think what your intentions are on this board. If you can't give imput related to the thread aside from personal attacks, then you aren't contributing, you are simply trying to create flame wars. This comming from a person who says her belief and her belief alone is proven fact, and those who dont believe are ignorant? Sometimes you have to look outside the square. What do you care anyway, you're not Christian to begin with. Maybe he cares because all you do on this forum is tell others that only your belief is right, and is fact, and the rest are wrong? Anyway: Antiaging, have you met Norman yet? 477411[/snapback] Give it up Stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley-Star*Child Posted February 6, 2005 #22 Share Posted February 6, 2005 The world is broad and wide. I'm sure you can find something here you are knowledgable on, other than showing your blatant ignorance for subjects for which you obviously don't comprehend. 476707[/snapback] Wow, coming from someone who's only area of expertise is on things that aren't real? That must be the ultimate contradiction... I can talk about most of the subjects on this board, and anything I don't know I can absorb. Can you? What posts do you ever make that aren't regarding religion, and non-sensical to boot? I keep hearing rumours you have a very high I.Q, yet we see no evidence of it, just gibberish and petty outbursts. 477421[/snapback] Gibberish and petty outbursts? Isn't that what you are good at? As for what is real and what is not, that is not up to you to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richdog Posted February 6, 2005 #23 Share Posted February 6, 2005 The world is broad and wide. I'm sure you can find something here you are knowledgable on, other than showing your blatant ignorance for subjects for which you obviously don't comprehend. 476707[/snapback] Wow, coming from someone who's only area of expertise is on things that aren't real? That must be the ultimate contradiction... I can talk about most of the subjects on this board, and anything I don't know I can absorb. Can you? What posts do you ever make that aren't regarding religion, and non-sensical to boot? I keep hearing rumours you have a very high I.Q, yet we see no evidence of it, just gibberish and petty outbursts. 477421[/snapback] Gibberish and petty outbursts? Isn't that what you are good at? As for what is real and what is not, that is not up to you to decide. 477674[/snapback] It's not up for you to decide either, yet the chances of your specialist subjects being real are more than marginal, even other devout Christians agree that you talk rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack0fhearts Posted February 6, 2005 #24 Share Posted February 6, 2005 It's not up for you to decide either, yet the chances of your specialist subjects being real are more than marginal, even other devout Christians agree that you talk rubbish. 477797[/snapback] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted February 6, 2005 #25 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Give it up Stellar. Is that all you can say? Gibberish and petty outbursts? Isn't that what you are good at? Maybe he picked it up after you? As for what is real and what is not, that is not up to you to decide. Its up to him to decide as much as it is up to you to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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