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#16    AsteroidX

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:05 AM

Yeah. I get real time interference.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:29 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 18 March 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

I have some HARPP stuff as well but not on my PC. Its my belief that the Govmnt does not deny chemtrails or itleast HARPP and bioengineering anymore. Anyone interested in joining in feel free.

On the HAARP, I just wanted to throw in a couple of quick comments. First of all, I am curious about what you believe that the Government does not deny about HAARP. They have never tried to keep HAARP secret. That said, given that you have obviously looked into the nature of HAARP given your claims, then you are naturally aware of the following gems:
  • HAARP, while not a public facility as such, hold open house events for anybody interested (typically during the summer).
  • HAARP among their research staff employ foreign nationals
  • HAARP has maximum output power delivered to the antenna array of 3.6MW, less delivered and absorbed in the ionosphere - effectively the intensity is less than 3uW/cm2, which is much, much less energy than is absorbed from space.
  • HAARP has very limited directional variability, in other words it pretty much sends the emitted energy straight up (+/-15 degrees).
  • The ionosphere is a fluid dynamic system and one cannot reflect anything off it and expect it to hit a certain spot
  • Weather happens in the troposphere, not in the ionosphere which is much higher.
I think that covers a good chuck of the misconceptions regarding HAARP that I have heard over the years.

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Have you guys/gals heard about HARPP rings at all ? Seems an interesting topic and Ive just heard of them recently.

Which is non-existent and something somebody without the proper knowledge dreamed up. As per above, HAARP does not have such capabilities for a number of reasons, but those "HAARP rings" are well know interference patterns. Nothing even remotely mysterious about them.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:32 AM

I actually know very little about HAARP and chemtrails. Were I live we dont get many sunny days so theres not much to see with my own eyes. I guess Im just trying to educate myself on the subject so I can draw my own conclusion.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:54 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 March 2013 - 02:32 AM, said:

I actually know very little about HAARP and chemtrails. Were I live we dont get many sunny days so theres not much to see with my own eyes. I guess Im just trying to educate myself on the subject so I can draw my own conclusion.

Thanks for the feedback.

Oh, ok - You are indeed most welcome. I apologize if I came across the wrong way, but HAARP conspiracy theories crop up on a regular basis and sometimes it feels like mole whacking and thus I can be a bit terse ;)

I have written a few blurps on this topic before, so please have a look if you are interested.

http://www.unexplain...2
http://www.unexplain...30#entry3820470
http://www.unexplain...30#entry3821112
http://www.unexplain...0

However, please feel free to ask any questions that you may have. I might not be able to respond right away, but I am following this thread :)

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:56 AM

I`ll believe in Chemtrails when they start Tippin Cows and landing on the White house lawn ,and The president can start to grow money on the Trees in the garden ! Now Thats Weird Science ! :tu:

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:58 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 March 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

Yeah. I get real time interference.

Yes, that is what it is. I actually work on such, not for radar but for optical transmission systems. However, have a look at what the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has to say about their radar:

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If you notice any circular patterns or straight lines originating from the centre of the radar location, this is due to occasional interference to the radar data. The Bureau is currently investigating ways to reduce these interferences.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:00 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 March 2013 - 12:22 AM, said:

HAARP/Weather phenomenon from yesterdays SE storms. Looking for an explanation for these anomalies.


I was just reading a little about this visual effect and it seems that some of these effects occur because the image is made from ground based radar, which shoots up at an angle into the sky. So a circle will show around the radar station, because the cloud layer does not reach all the way to the ground. Also if the radar is aimed at a high angle it will pass out of the cloud cover fairly quickly and create a Dounut kind of image, when what is really there is a solid cloud cover.

This kind of "ring" looks like this...
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The kind with the sharp edges on it is actually due to interference patterns with the radars signals.

I've read that in some cases this is caused by faulty cell phone towers.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:03 PM

Its just a strange phenomenon. When accompanied with severe weather.

But I can see the anomaly being most likely as there is no real credible evidence Ive dug up that disputes it.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:51 AM

Radar crop circles ? Hum now were really going down the rabbit whole ! :tu:

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:40 AM

I'd like to see a radar crop circle fractal pattern!!! Especially if it actually showed up in the sky. That then would be real proof of technical weather control. Or maybe a giant cloud shaped like Obama waving his hand... That would be eye catching...

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:27 AM

A good video of normal cloud cover. Natural. It is good to have  a  baseline when misusing Chemtrails is the topic. This is typical of what I see in the PNW.




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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:19 PM

http://prof77.wordpr...n-weather-site/


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:50 AM

View Postcyclops, on 23 March 2013 - 10:19 PM, said:


All I see in that page are perfectly normal interference patterns and a lot of uneducated nonsense.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:52 AM

1330 in this video has the Govmt beginning to analyze the effects on CONTRAILS on the environment. Chemtrails aside is informational and hopefully a step in identifying and solving  a problem IMO.




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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:30 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 18 March 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

Im not seeing much on this ongoing topic that is a current event. Think Ill start it up. Be prepared for the fireworks.



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