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[Simbi Laveau]

Paracelse, on 30 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

I always found fascinating how dogmatic people want to reduce to entire world to their level, no matter how mighty they think that level could be.

As far as I can tell,anyone saying this article is a lie,hasn't read the article,at all .
If they have read it,they do not understand its implications ,at all .
Not our problem .....

[pallidin]

I'm sorry,

But the US FDA, the World Health Organization, and many, many multi-national physicians agree on the overwhelming good vaccinations provide versus the occasional(and sad to be sure) side-effects from some individuals.

[Br Cornelius]

Simbi Laveau, on 30 December 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Big pharm lies ,in the end,touch every life in this country . Let us know when it touches yours,because with your attitude and blind belief of it all,it absolutely will come to pass.
Condolences .

I am no fan of Big Pharm and do a lot to stay healthy and without medication. However, when I need the products of the pharmaceutical industry I am grateful to receive them. I take an informed position on what is good for me, as I do on all things.
However that does nothing to disprove the overwhelming efficacy of vaccines for the overwhelming majority of people.

Your high blown position and rhetoric has no weight with me.

Br Cornelius

Edited by Br Cornelius, 30 December 2012 - 11:25 PM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Simbi Laveau, on 30 December 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT .

The info of these article,was gotten via the freedom of information act,ergo,the info was GOVERNMENT PROTECTED .
It is not heresay ,other people's data ,or made up .
It came directly from the source.
PLEASE READ WHAT THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT IS USED FOR ,as its not to promote conspiracy theories .

http://en.wikipedia...._(United_States)

you are absolutely right, it's not used to promote conspiracy theories.
it's abused by peole with a conspiracy theory to promote.

There will always be adverse drug reactions. Always. Hell, I'm allergic to Saint John's Wort, so even natural medicine has it's side effects. If in the early days of immunisarion, this potential truth came out, the whole thing would have ground to a halt and millions of people would be dead or crippled. It's a lose/lose situation isn't it? Crippling injuries, potential death on a scale we need wars in order to achieve these days, versus a handful of deaths and potentially something like Autism, which frankly has been part of humanity since day one.

Whixh would you choose?

[Render]

Here's what happens if you skip vaccinations:

Pakistan child measles deaths surge in 2012

Quote

Measles cases surged in Pakistan in 2012 with hundreds of children dying of the disease, an international health body said Tuesday.

http://medicalxpress...aths-surge.html

oh and Polio will probably be making a comeback too since they keep killing health care workers trying to give vaccinations.

But hey, some UM must be really pleased with this, because vaccinations are pure evil huh? So now you know where you can move to with your family..vaccination free zone yaay.

bunch of nuts

Edited by Render, 02 January 2013 - 11:57 AM.

[Simbi Laveau]

Mmmm,butternut squash soup ,is so good on cold days. Some cheesy croutons,fresh wild chives,and some cream stirred in .
nom nom

[preacherman76]

Still no actual comments on how the drug companies have been lieing to your faces for decades. How sad.

[preacherman76]

pallidin, on 30 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Hmmm... well let's see.

Vaccination has saved MILLIONS of lives. That's a fact

Vaccination to some has caused lethal reactions, but only in a VERY small percentage. That's a fact.

Aspirin, ibuprofen and similar has caused death in some individuals, yet helps MILLIONS more. That's a fact.

When conspiracy theorists can no longer hold onto 9/11 or doomsday, I guess they have to come-up with something else just for the jollies of upsetting the uninformed.

Sick, sick, sick.

Oh look another idiot who hasnt even bothered to read the information in the OP, and continues to spew crap from people making billions off thier now exposed lies. Caught red handed. Even brought 9/11 into it. Government and big pharm has a name for folks like yourself. Useful idiot I believe the term is.

[preacherman76]

Render, on 02 January 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Here's what happens if you skip vaccinations:

Pakistan child measles deaths surge in 2012



http://medicalxpress...aths-surge.html

oh and Polio will probably be making a comeback too since they keep killing health care workers trying to give vaccinations.

But hey, some UM must be really pleased with this, because vaccinations are pure evil huh? So now you know where you can move to with your family..vaccination free zone yaay.

bunch of nuts

Pakistan hu? Yea Im sure those kids would be a fine examples of health had they just had thier vaccines. We all know how nutriously minded those folks are.

[The New Richard Nixon]

I have been vaccinated many times and don't have problems

[preacherman76]

Br Cornelius, on 30 December 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

I am no fan of Big Pharm and do a lot to stay healthy and without medication. However, when I need the products of the pharmaceutical industry I am grateful to receive them. I take an informed position on what is good for me, as I do on all things.
However that does nothing to disprove the overwhelming efficacy of vaccines for the overwhelming majority of people.

Your high blown position and rhetoric has no weight with me.

Br Cornelius

How could it hold weight with you? You think WE are the ones making the claims. Its litteraly amazing.

[preacherman76]

The New Richard Nixon, on 04 January 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

I have been vaccinated many times and don't have problems

You dont know that. Besides the claim isnt that every person who gets vaccinated will have problems. If youd bother to actualy read what this thread is about, youd already know that though.

[preacherman76]

Wearer of Hats, on 31 December 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

you are absolutely right, it's not used to promote conspiracy theories.
it's abused by peole with a conspiracy theory to promote.

There will always be adverse drug reactions. Always. Hell, I'm allergic to Saint John's Wort, so even natural medicine has it's side effects. If in the early days of immunisarion, this potential truth came out, the whole thing would have ground to a halt and millions of people would be dead or crippled. It's a lose/lose situation isn't it? Crippling injuries, potential death on a scale we need wars in order to achieve these days, versus a handful of deaths and potentially something like Autism, which frankly has been part of humanity since day one.

Whixh would you choose?

Oh look, ANOTHER idiot who hasnt bothered to become informed regarding what this thread is trying to show. This thread is a waste.

[Corp]

Ugh, the link in the OP is massively bias and super paranoid. I think I'll stick with the side that has saved millions of lives.

[pallidin]

Corp, on 04 January 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Ugh, the link in the OP is massively bias and super paranoid. I think I'll stick with the side that has saved millions of lives.

Thank you. Thank you for myself, my children, and many, many others that have been helped through vaccination.