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#31    Spiral staircase

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:50 PM

Progressive have a say in our democracy like everyone else. We are all involved in each others lives.

We don't seem mad at all. We base our opinions on scholarship most of all combined with our real world experience.

Those who seem mad are conspiracy theorists and those demanding progressives should stay our of their lives.

We like the direction the country is going. The anger is not ours.

Edited by Leave Britney alone!, 11 May 2013 - 08:51 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

Most of us in the city will vote for progress. You can feel free to vote another way.

How about we take a walk on the hemline of any major city but not downtown. There you will see what liberal progress looks like. It's a run down hellhole full of once great homes and communities all sprayed with graffiti and big homes that sell for less than most cars. I know I know it's not about speed but direction. Well this type of progress is going at a snails pace and a regressive direction. Your hearts in the right place but Your policies don't work. They just don't and it's delusional to think otherwise.

Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:54 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

Most of us in the city will vote for progress. You can feel free to vote another way.

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

Most of us in the city will vote for progress. You can feel free to vote another way.
In other words, you havent learned from history


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostF3SS, on 11 May 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

How about we take a walk on the hemline of any major city but not downtown. There you will see what liberal progress looks like. It's a run down hellhole full of once great homes and communities all sprayed with graffiti and big homes that sell for less than most cars. I know I know it's not about speed but direction. Well this type of progress is going at a snails pace and a regressive direction. Your hearts in the right place but Your policies don't work. They just don't and it's delusional to think otherwise.

Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.

Our city is nothing like that. There are problems and there have always been problems but things are improving in all quarters.

The run down homes which were once great are in areas being gentrified and those homes are being restored.

And once more, progressivism is not liberalism. We might vote on some of the same things but the approach is different.

Edited by Leave Britney alone!, 11 May 2013 - 08:57 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:00 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 11 May 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Majority rule eh? Okay let's put it this way. Majority decided to kick all African Americans out of U.S. as a metaphor, the tally came up 51 - 49 with majority in favor of deporting all African Americans regardless if they were born here or not. Now you are faced with a situation where mob rule is taking over and causing a unjust and unfair decision to be forces on the other half of the nation. That is what you are rooting for... it is happening right now, with our 2nd amendment being thrown onto the table and being ripped to shreds by ill-informed voters much like yourself who thinks his opinion weighs more than others and his ideals should be thrust upon others of this great nation. That my good sir is infringing upon someone's freedom and free-will. This is exactly the opposite of what America stands for...

That was a rhetorical question, wasn't it? You didn't think you would get an honest, straightforward answer, did you?


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:03 PM

View PostKowalski, on 11 May 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

There has been a great deal of discussion in the United States about the Constitution — despite the fact that it was promulgated over two centuries ago — and whether it is relevant to contemporary America. I’d like to remark briefly on this.
The founders of the United States were not merely technicians setting up an administrative framework and a set of rules. They had pondered long and hard over the lessons of long-term history as to why republics had always seemed to fail and how governments had tended over time to become tyrannical.

From this study, debate, and analysis, their most important conclusion was that human beings could not be trusted with power. Those who had power — at least many or most of them — would misuse it to make themselves wealthy; to order around others; to hold onto office; to increase their authority; and to benefit themselves, their friends, and their supporters.
What was the solution? Their unanimous conclusion was that two safeguards were needed:
1. To divide power among as many institutions as would be possible without paralyzing government. On the federal level this meant there was a division among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. Each of them had a large measure of independence and could check the others if they went too far.
Equally, power was divided among the federal government and independent state and local authorities. (This is called checks and balances. See http://www.newworlde...ks_and_balances )
2. To limit government, leaving the maximum amount of freedom in the hands of individuals.
These two strategies were tremendous innovations. While in need of some adjustment over time, this was basically to define the precise boundaries in each case, not to transform fundamentally the structure as a whole. The history of the past two centuries — and especially the twentieth century — showed just how right they were in this plan.
For example, Communism came up with the idea of being even “more” democratic, placing power in the hands of the “proletariat.” But as the founders of America could have told them, in the end this just meant giving absolute power to those who claimed to be the representatives of the masses, and in particular a man named Joseph Stalin.

The Constitution was ratified by 1790 after the Articles of Confederation were scrapped.
In 1848, the liberal progressive’s Bible — Karl Marx’s “The Communist Manifesto” — was published. So age is of little importance.
Some of the founders participated in the English institution of slavery, others did not. Business success favored a few and eluded others. Religion was important to and guided many of them. One thing they did agree about is that a big central government was tyrannical at best.
The dream of man ruling himself was set forth on parchment.
Karl Marx on the other hand failed at business and basically lived off of the entrepreneur Fredrick Engels. Karl, an atheist, hated religion. Both agreed that people should not be left to make their own decision. Marx died destitute.
As doctrines, communism and all its sister “isms” have enslaved and murdered tens of millions. In every case they are oppressive and destructive to life and liberty.
Our capitalist system has raised millions out of poverty and depravation. Many a free son and daughter have given their lives to free others around the world. The freedom we enjoy has been shared by only 5 percent of civilization.
Hence America is historically out of place.
Given a preference, being a free sovereign American citizen is preferable to liberal progressive subjugation.

http://rubinreports....atters-its.html

http://www.blufftont...nt#.UY61iHaUy8Z

Just to inform others, part of what is above was written by someone who lives in Israel.

Few of us are interested in allowing those in Israel dictate the domestic affairs of our own nation. It is bad enough they hijack our foreign policy.

The other part was from some OP ed from some guy name Paul in South Carolina.

Of course progressives prefer to trust in academia but not everyone has to.

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 11 May 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

In other words, you havent learned from history

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Edited by Leave Britney alone!, 11 May 2013 - 09:40 PM.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:06 PM

You can resort to the classic definition if you want but liberalism and progressivism are one in the same in the modern USA. The more you guys try to help the worse things become mainly through dependence because nothing you put on the plate is an attempt to get people to fix their own lives. They are all attempts to fix it for them.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:07 PM

Oddly one who claims neither liberalism or progressivism will attempt to explain to us what they are.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:07 PM

Doesn't matter who wrote that or where. It's all true.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:12 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Oddly one who claims neither liberalism or progressivism will attempt to explain to us what they are.
I'm not going to conduct an academic study of a post like you do. I understand quite well and those who know me here know that I do. I've been posting here in the politics for quite sometime and you've just recently showed up. I don't feel the need to explain my every thought and word and I've discussed many things many times over the years. Just stick around and you'll figure me out but I think you already have and you won't beat me or anyone else on my side by making remarks suggesting we don't know what we are talking about. You can take the college lecture approach. I'll continue to talk like a real person and just be myself.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:26 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Just to inform others, all the above was written by someone who lives in Israel.

http://rubinreports....atters-its.html

Few of us are interested in allowing those in Israel dictate the domestic affairs of our own nation. It is bad enough they hijack our foreign policy.

First off I got the first part that I posted from: http://pjmedia.com/b...relevant-today/

The second part was from: http://www.blufftont...nt#.UY6sLjAo5oM

I meant  to post my links, but as I am posting on my kindle, I was having some trouble...

And does it really matter who wrote the articles? When anyone says or writes something that you don't like, you attack the person's credibility or in this case, a person's country.
This has nothing to do with foreign policy or Isreal it's about brain dead liberals who think our constitution is out of date, just because their Jesus Christ, Lord and Saviour Obama and his cronies say so.  I honestly think that to become a liberal you have to loose half your brain cells first, because for any American to sit there and say our Constitution is outdated and not relevant is just beyond stupidity.
You then back up your views with some type of pysdeo scientific talk, and act like you are so much more intelligent then everyone else. I'm a very intelligent person, but I don't feel the need to spout 18 letter words to make myself seem more intelligent than others.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:28 PM

That does not sound very sensible to me. In either case I prefer to discuss topics and not fellow posters.

Have a good afternoon.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:47 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

That does not sound very sensible to me. In either case I prefer to discuss topics and not fellow posters.

Have a good afternoon.

Hey, you were the one that posted this little beauty:


View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Just to inform others, all the above was written by someone who lives in Israel.

Few of us are interested in allowing those in Israel dictate the domestic affairs of our own nation. It is bad enough they hijack our foreign policy.

The other part was from some OP ed from some guy name Paul in South Carolina.

Of course progressives prefer to trust in academia but not everyone has to



This is exactly what I'm talking about.  I was talking about how the Constitution is still very relevant today.  I posted two very good articles that I read online, which I thought were very well written. Then you attack the people who wrote it with some nonsense about it not being "academia".... Do you know anything about the history behind WHY the Constitution was written? I don't think you do.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:54 PM

View PostLeave Britney alone!, on 11 May 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

That does not sound very sensible to me. In either case I prefer to discuss topics and not fellow posters.

What a load of bull! You may not address anyone personally, you simply rationalize your contempt for an entire group of people who don't agree with you. Whether you like it or not that makes you a bigot.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:48 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 11 May 2013 - 06:34 PM, said:

Majority rule eh? Okay let's put it this way. Majority decided to kick all African Americans out of U.S. as a metaphor, the tally came up 51 - 49 with majority in favor of deporting all African Americans regardless if they were born here or not. Now you are faced with a situation where mob rule is taking over and causing a unjust and unfair decision to be forces on the other half of the nation. That is what you are rooting for...
Wasn't Lincoln's Emancipation order contrary to the vox populi? I'm sure I saw it in a doco once.





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