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#3946    seeder

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:27 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 02 January 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

Can't find squat. Didn't look that hard, though.

well good you looked anyway! Lots dont!  :tu:

I'm too busy looking at new laptops in the Jan sales, (online)...so thats why Im not into researching further...but hey I found the 'stuffs' name anyway!  But it was apparently a name from legend, and thats just the problem with legends.. they are unreliable!  Even a search on 'plant extract, corrosive on stone' returned nothing exciting.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:37 PM

View Postzoser, on 02 January 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

Maybe you want to discuss the stone masonry excellence of the Aymara indians that according to fairytales archaeological history constructed the great Puma Punku relics?

Thats not entirely a mystery seeing as they were a subject people of the Inca..  you learn well if the teachers are smart

Anyway enough with the swipes...this thread almost has my interest again with the fabled red juice..

Edited by seeder, 02 January 2013 - 08:38 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:50 PM

View Postzoser, on 02 January 2013 - 08:21 PM, said:

Maybe you want to discuss the stone masonry excellence of the Aymara indians that according to fairytales archaeological history constructed the great Puma Punku relics?

Sorry zoser. Work on Puma Punku started around 1500 B.P.(Circa 400 AD) Basically after the Bronze Age and well into the Iron Age in most areas.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

View Postseeder, on 02 January 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

well good you looked anyway! Lots dont!  :tu:

I'm too busy looking at new laptops in the Jan sales, (online)...so thats why Im not into researching further...but hey I found the 'stuffs' name anyway!  But it was apparently a name from legend, and thats just the problem with legends.. they are unreliable!  Even a search on 'plant extract, corrosive on stone' returned nothing exciting.

I tried the usual avenues, but as  said, everything that I can find quotes that same paper mixing aliens, pyramids and the bible. I think this plant is a dead end, though the concept surely is not. Chemical re-crystallization (vitrification) is still done by these means today. Even this flooring company talks about it: http://www.ethosmarb...ification.shtml

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:03 PM

Here's another oddity that I have been musing over.  Many of the blocks at Puma Punku have been moulded to accept metal clamps for what is commonly thought to be mechanical strengthening support.

Here is an example fro Ollyantaytambo:

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Doesn't it strike anyone as being a little small for the size of the block?  Bearing in mind the relatively soft metals that they were known to have available what mechanical support could that really provide?

On some website it was conjectured that the metal wasn't poured in molten form but rather the clamps were ready prepared and pressed into the clay like block.  It's purpose was not to provide final mechanical rigidity but to hold the block in place while is hardened.

That's one idea and to be honest looking at the size of the block which must be in the order of 20-30 tonnes, I can see the logic in that.

Here is another idea.

These constructions at Ollyantaytambo and Sacsayhuaman were built from andesite or granite both of which contain quartz.  Quartz as we know is produces electrical energy when excited vibrationally.  The idea occurs that the walls needed to be electrically connected in some kind of circuit in order to function fully as some some kind of radiating apparatus.  The metal clamp would have facilitated the electrical connection between the stones.

Just a thought.

Anyway this will have to be my last post for a while as work now beckons.  Not that I don't enjoy my work but I enjoy this more.

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Here's the clip if you want to see the full size of the block:


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 02 January 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

Sorry zoser. Work on Puma Punku started around 1500 B.P.(Circa 400 AD) Basically after the Bronze Age and well into the Iron Age in most areas.

Sorry for what?  It doesn't say anything about who built it or how, or what relics were found nearby to account for the incredible construction.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:09 PM

View Postseeder, on 02 January 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:



Anyway enough with the swipes...this thread almost has my interest again with the fabled red juice..


I think there are much more interesting avenues to explore, but anyway good luck with that.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

View Postzoser, on 02 January 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

Sorry for what?  It doesn't say anything about who built it or how, or what relics were found nearby to account for the incredible construction.

I don't get it, zoser. I really don't. You simply ignore everything that doesn't fit within your crazy "framework". You keep saying that you have "evidence" and you post pictures of things that can all be explained and insist that they can't.
Personally, I think it would be awesome if aliens really did build these things. But there's no point and more importantly, there is no evidence.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:16 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 02 January 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

I don't get it, zoser. I really don't. You simply ignore everything that doesn't fit within your crazy "framework". You keep saying that you have "evidence" and you post pictures of things that can all be explained and insist that they can't.
Personally, I think it would be awesome if aliens really did build these things. But there's no point and more importantly, there is no evidence.

Forget the framework; forget the textbooks, forget the dates and look at the evidence and what the specialists say about it.

That's the place to start.  Impossible to convince anyone that Puma Punku was built by Indians.  They just didn't do that kind of thing.  No technology, no precision, no writing, no blueprints, no tools, nothing.

It's far more ancient than people think anyway.

I read on website that the only dating came from some foodstuffs or bio remains under one of the stones.  Well the stones have been shifted probably many times.  From looking at the remains, it's obvious that at least one catastrophe hit the site; then there were the Spanish that turned it upside down.  Before that the Aymara probably used it as a camp site.  There are a myriad of possibilities.

It all points to the need to be very cautious about dating and who we credit as being the builders.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

View Postzoser, on 02 January 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:



On some website it was conjectured

that the metal wasn't poured in molten form but rather the clamps were ready prepared and pressed into the clay like block.  It's purpose was not to provide final mechanical rigidity but to hold the block in place while is hardened.


First off, pls dont post a piccy and say 'on some website'... which website and a link pls?

And your second point about holding a rock into place while it hardened is crazy... if the clamp was pre-formed it'd be harder than any clay.. if the rock was especially heavy, as such rocks are.. it would then easily 'pull away' from any clamp, if the clamp had a such great load on it.. like pulling a cheesewire thru clay

Come on zoser this is elementary stuff now

Besides, how can anyone determine the depth of the hole or shape, in your pic?

And has no-one noticed something totally baffling about all these pics of the structures? Many of them... have these strange red arrows on them! Hows that then? What was there purpose?

Question for zoser. Which is heaviest? Wet clay, or dry rock?  Size for size? Not the old chestnut of  "a kilo of lead or kilo of feather" pls

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

View PostFrom 02 January 2013 - 09:16 PM:

Forget the framework; forget the textbooks, forget the dates and look at the evidence and what the specialists say about it.

Which specialists?
And how many specialists have you read about?
More than 2-3?
Which of those
is qualified?
In what?

Name some names zoser, provide some links...and... 'forget the textbooks'  is usually how conspiracy theorists begin...

Edited by seeder, 02 January 2013 - 09:38 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:43 PM

View Postzoser, on 02 January 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

Take a look at the above picture.  It's much more than polishing.  It's a deep melting causing almost a fusion effect.

That would need copious quantities of liquid, which I strongly believe refutes this theory.  Any theory has to fit all the evidence Abe and so far the only one that I see that applies to every case is heat.


Bullcrap. that temp would have shattered the rock before it melted.



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:56 PM

View Postzoser, on 02 January 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

Forget the framework; forget the textbooks, forget the dates and look at the evidence and what the specialists say about it.

That's the place to start.  Impossible to convince anyone that Puma Punku was built by Indians.  They just didn't do that kind of thing.  No technology, no precision, no writing, no blueprints, no tools, nothing.

It's far more ancient than people think anyway.

I read on website that the only dating came from some foodstuffs or bio remains under one of the stones.  Well the stones have been shifted probably many times.  From looking at the remains, it's obvious that at least one catastrophe hit the site; then there were the Spanish that turned it upside down.  Before that the Aymara probably used it as a camp site.  There are a myriad of possibilities.

It all points to the need to be very cautious about dating and who we credit as being the builders.

Lots of BS in this one zoser.  
You say listen to the specialists, of which 99.9% of them disagree with you.   We are listening to the specialists.   You are listening to those out to make a buck.


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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:02 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 02 January 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:



People , there may be an Amazonian plant/herb out there that contains chemicals that are able to dissolve granite,

Find it (lol)

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Sat through a load of websites, found very little.
Checked each plant here: Peruvian native plants

Nothing that fully matches. The only plants that closely fit are the Croton (Not spongy), Coleus (you already mentioned) and the Caladium. I doubt any of these produce enough acid to get the result you desire though. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:09 PM

View PostRedSquirrel, on 02 January 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Sat through a load of websites, found very little.
Checked each plant here: Peruvian native plants

Nothing that fully matches. The only plants that closely fit are the Croton (Not spongy), Coleus (you already mentioned) and the Caladium. I doubt any of these produce enough acid to get the result you desire though. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Its appreciated, some dont or cant be bothered to look things up... this a problem especially for zoser, and how he is criticized so often

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