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UFO flies into Mexico's Popocatepetl volcano

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#61    DONTEATUS

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:05 AM

Tom Cruise makes new Movie in MExico ! :tu:

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:33 AM

Vulcans..that comment was funny, were else would they live with a name like that?


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 04:36 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 05 June 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

It's to fast to be a helicopter.who knows what it can be.
Could be a UFO.
It's sped up so that you could see it faster

To me it seems like a helicopter

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 07:51 AM

some people need to get out more often.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:17 AM

View Postseeder, on 03 June 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

Again? Blimey they keep on doing that dont they? Ive seen many vids over the years with similar description, heres another



Neither that or this video is a UFO. They are probably airplanes. If you watch closely you can see the videos are sped up, the stars moving fast, therefor the video is a timelapse, and the object in the videos is actually moving quiet slow. It's also flying in a direction where the volcano is obstructing it's view, giving the illusion that it's flying into the volcano.

Edited by AlienDan, 05 June 2013 - 08:18 AM.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:47 AM

View Postquillius, on 04 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

sorry, to confirm, I was talking more about what is it that confirms these observations as 'plasma'?

generally speaking, nothing confirms them, it's just about the probability factor, they're hypothetically put forth as a prosaic explanation for the given observations... we do know that plasmas are real and exhibit said characteristics... hence there is a basis to entertain them, but nothing confirms it; the data is simply insufficient to reach any conclusions... that's why i was merely highlighting / asking about unstructured plasmas in light of seeder's comment i.e. solid objects entering closed spaces are hoaxes... plasmas just pop out of existence, or 'go through', there need not be 'crashes' as such?

View Postquillius, on 04 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

With regards to teh edit, I instantly have more questions...i..e what appears to be solid may indeed not be, how do we know they are solid?

that's exactly my point and the reason why i brought up those examples

View Postquillius, on 04 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

also when they are said to enter planes or houses, this would indicate they would have to have been observed from both outside and inside , otherwise how do we know where they originated...especially hard to do this in the plane one would imagine.

i'll have to look at the data to be able to know exactly how those conclusions were reached

View Postquillius, on 04 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

but rather than answer these (potentially) pointless questions let me read the paper and come back to you

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

View Postseeder, on 04 June 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Oh and Id agree too, 'anything' - other than UFO's diving into a volcano, which just happens to be solid rock and not hollow!!

hey seeder, just to clarify... my earlier comment, 'portal to the hollow earth' was tongue-in-cheek... :tu:


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:11 AM

View Postmcrom901, on 05 June 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

generally speaking, nothing confirms them, it's just about the probability factor, they're hypothetically put forth as a prosaic explanation for the given observations... we do know that plasmas are real and exhibit said characteristics... hence there is a basis to entertain them, but nothing confirms it; the data is simply insufficient to reach any conclusions... that's why i was merely highlighting / asking about unstructured plasmas in light of seeder's comment i.e. solid objects entering closed spaces are hoaxes... plasmas just pop out of existence, or 'go through', there need not be 'crashes' as such?

ok thanks


View Postmcrom901, on 05 June 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

that's exactly my point and the reason why i brought up those examples

I am finally following now :)

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i'll have to look at the data to be able to know exactly how those conclusions were reached

:tu:

I do think this question is still quite pertinent to the discussion. As are many further questions to the observations recorded in the document you posted.

The finer detail in my opinion is key, I have discussed with S2F before how that the 'timing' is where I see the possible suggestion of intelligence or at least this for me would provide a good indicator.

When the 'ufo (plasma) nears a plane and the controls malfunction, this is as expected due to EM effects, however if a pilot says on the radio 'I will shoot at it' and at this precise moment the weapons malfunction, this suggests something different to me. Of course repeated coincidence like this is key to eliminate the probability possiblity.

I guess there is quite a bit of detail (accurate detail) that is needed to persue this line of thought.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:27 AM

just to add that it appears that only once in the cases quoted did waepons malfunction, the sidewinder missile ceased functioning.

Also noted that the 25 military (US) versus 2 commercial (US) is quite an interesting stat IMO.

Especially if we were to use this as a percentage versus number of flights for both private and military....you would have expected the commercial figure to be much higher and the percentages to be similar allowing for a fair deviation mathematically.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:48 PM

View PostAlienDan, on 05 June 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:

Neither that or this video is a UFO. They are probably airplanes. If you watch closely you can see the videos are sped up, the stars moving fast, therefor the video is a timelapse, and the object in the videos is actually moving quiet slow. It's also flying in a direction where the volcano is obstructing it's view, giving the illusion that it's flying into the volcano.

Thanks for bringing me up to speed!  The post you quoted of mine was in fact me being sarcastic. I also pointed out everything you just wrote,  earlier, Reading is good! I have quite some experience with these webcams and have seen many 'thingies' myself.... in fact I will confidently say anyone who invests a few hours per night to watch the cams will indeed see strange stuff themselves.

But while it always, well 99% of the time, 'looks anomalous', its mundane in reality.

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