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[Paranoid Android]

For interest, five people (at present) have voted "Don't care". I'm curious if any of those folk could post their reasons. I mean, if aliens turned up and said, "guess what, we created your race" why would you shrug and say "who cares"? Whether you believe the aliens or not, surely you'd take some active interest in the situation.

[Beckys_Mom]

Euphorbia, on 17 January 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

If an extraterrestrial proclaimed they were god, after I stopped laughing I would ask them who created them.  

I would add - What is this clap trap about man being made in your image? Was it some sort of practical joke ?  

[seeder]

First off Id ask him why I never got my racing bike when I turned ten. I prayed all year for that!

But anyway,  they would have to look pretty much like us then wouldn't they? For man was created in Gods image..

quote: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"

(By the way note the words -Us and Our? Who was God talking too,a council of other gods/angels?)

I think if aliens came here and said that, they would have to come after Armageddon,  after the revelations and the end time prophecies, after the plagues,  world destruction and...much gnashing of teeth etc - (love that phrase, I do it in my sleep)...in order to get any credibility, because all the texts indicate that after all the poop hits the fan...then he comes back

because this is when 'he' said he'd return in scripture. In fact I dont think  he ever said 'he' will return, but Jesus instead returns.  Which includes god of course, but its Jesus who made the promise of "I'll be back"!

Now, if the world was being destroyed, floods, earthquakes, plagues, fire and brimstone, angels playing trumpets etc, I think Id be in such a state of sheer terror I wouldn't care who you really were, just get me out of there!!

So, if aliens did come and make claims, they'd need to be inline with scripture to even be believed. I believe...

Edited by seeder, 17 January 2013 - 01:06 PM.

[seeder]

Sorry I didnt vote, there are 4 choices to vote on

Yes
No
DON'T KNOW
DON'T CARE

But Id vote on: 'If scripture had been played out"  ...then most likely Id be very inclined to.

And so long as they could answer what color Racing bike I wanted/prayed for - and then give a damn good reason why I didn't get it

Edited by seeder, 17 January 2013 - 01:18 PM.

[Rlyeh]

Paranoid Android, on 17 January 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

For interest, five people (at present) have voted "Don't care". I'm curious if any of those folk could post their reasons. I mean, if aliens turned up and said, "guess what, we created your race" why would you shrug and say "who cares"? Whether you believe the aliens or not, surely you'd take some active interest in the situation.

I already did;

"I don't care, if they could prove it it just means with all their technology they're archaic to fuel such primitive concepts."

[Rlyeh]

seeder, on 17 January 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

But anyway,  they would have to look pretty much like us then wouldn't they? For man was created in Gods image..

Says man.

[Orcseeker]

If they had the technology to possibly engineer and start an entire race then I'm quite sure they wouldn't have a problem in convincing us otherwise. But in the end, natural selection has placed our species above the rest, we are at the top of the pyramid. We are animals whether people like it or not and the most dangerous creatures to ever roam the planet. I still believe to think we were created by some superior being is very arrogant.

I believe it to be more like, "we put the microbes there which evidently resulted in your existence".

[Orcseeker]

seeder, on 17 January 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

First off Id ask him why I never got my racing bike when I turned ten. I prayed all year for that!

But anyway,  they would have to look pretty much like us then wouldn't they? For man was created in Gods image..

quote: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"

(By the way note the words -Us and Our? Who was God talking too,a council of other gods/angels?)

I think if aliens came here and said that, they would have to come after Armageddon,  after the revelations and the end time prophecies, after the plagues,  world destruction and...much gnashing of teeth etc - (love that phrase, I do it in my sleep)...in order to get any credibility, because all the texts indicate that after all the poop hits the fan...then he comes back

because this is when 'he' said he'd return in scripture. In fact I dont think  he ever said 'he' will return, but Jesus instead returns.  Which includes god of course, but its Jesus who made the promise of "I'll be back"!

Now, if the world was being destroyed, floods, earthquakes, plagues, fire and brimstone, angels playing trumpets etc, I think Id be in such a state of sheer terror I wouldn't care who you really were, just get me out of there!!

So, if aliens did come and make claims, they'd need to be inline with scripture to even be believed. I believe...

If anything, I do believe if there is a God, it would probably not like having people speak on its behalf.

As for all these doomsday and Armageddon theories. Does it really have to come to something like that for the human race to change? To come to some revelation?

As for the scripture there is very little credibility for that I am afraid.

Us humans need some humility.

[seeder]

Orcseeker, on 17 January 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

If anything, I do believe if there is a God, it would probably not like having people speak on its behalf.

As for all these doomsday and Armageddon theories. Does it really have to come to something like that for the human race to change? To come to some revelation?

As for the scripture there is very little credibility for that I am afraid.

Us humans need some humility.

ha - maybe but I only quoted from whats in the big book! So if the big book has got that bit wrong, about things that MUST come to pass.. well maybe all of its wrong then?  But I never argue religion with anyone.  Thats how wars start!

Anyway..

What does God need with a starship?




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Edited by seeder, 17 January 2013 - 02:01 PM.

[shadowhive]

seeder, on 17 January 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

But Id vote on: 'If scripture had been played out"  ...then most likely Id be very inclined to.

And so long as they could answer what color Racing bike I wanted/prayed for - and then give a damn good reason why I didn't get it

The problem with that being the bible doesn't speak for god it claims to speak for god which is a big difference. Every religion that has a god or gods has something that claims to speak for those deities. How many of those are wrong? Pretty much all of them, because most of them speak of something as a deity (ie the sun or moon) which we now know is NOT a deity so they couldn't possibly speak for it.

And of course, with revelation the apocalypse seems to be coming every five minutes depending on the the interpretation.

[Orcseeker]

seeder, on 17 January 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

ha - maybe but I only quoted from whats in the big book! So if the big book has got that bit wrong, about things that MUST come to pass.. well maybe all of its wrong then?  But I never argue religion with anyone.  Thats how wars start!

Anyway..

What does God need with a starship?




edit to add better sound quality vid

The bible lost me when it was supposed to contain the word of God when it was written by man. Apparently the bible wasn't even put together until a good couple years past after the actual events occurred.

If you do a bit of research into the concept of storytelling. The evolution of a story. Even today, theatrical or movie adaptions of novels can contain events that never happened in the original text to mix things up and make it more interesting/exciting/etc. Things can be a bit exaggerated and fantastical at times. Generally it makes things a bit more interesting. The problem arises when people actually start believing in them however.

I find it funny when scientology is mocked. But in essence, the only difference with most religions and that one is time.

[seeder]

shadowhive, on 17 January 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

The problem with that being the bible doesn't speak for god it claims to speak for god

Ok then I imagine your answer to the aliens would be 'No sorry matey, you're not god"? Coz thats just a fairy tale man made up?

BUT I will not argue for or against - any religion or peoples religious beliefs, so pls don't question me further on it! Im sure others will chip in about that!

But hell, either way, if aliens arrived I wouldn't really care what they said, Id be fascinated to see/meet them, have a ride in a saucer maybe,

[shadowhive]

seeder, on 17 January 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ok then I imagine your answer to the aliens would be 'No sorry matey, you're not god"? Coz thats just a fairy tale man made up?

BUT I will not argue for or against - any religion or peoples religious beliefs, so pls don't question me further on it! Im sure others will chip in about that!

But hell, either way, if aliens arrived I wouldn't really care what they said, Id be fascinated to see/meet them, have a ride in a saucer maybe,

If they did it wouldn't be phrased like that. However, that would be the basic jist of it. There's several things in the bible (ie the world made in days) that we know is incorrect so we already know there's some mistakes in there (mistakes a god wouldn't make but that men would).

I'd be curious too, it would be pretty cool to meet aliens (and certainly be on a spaceship).

[J. K.]

Actually, since God created the earth, He Himself did not originate on the earth.  That makes Him an extraterrestrial.

(Don't go crazy on me, just a joke!)

[HDesiato]

Voted: I don't know.
there's a whole thing in the old testament about not being able to look at God's face and live.

Exodus Chapter 33 Verse 20
http://bible.cc/exod...dus/33-20.htm  

"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
thou canst not. This is well explained by Rabbi Jehudah, in Sepher Cosri, 'Of that divine glory mentioned in the scripture, there is one degree which the eyes of the prophets were able to explore; another which all the Israelites saw, as the cloud and consuming fire; the third is so bright, and so dazzling, that no mortal is able to comprehend it; but should anyone venture to look on it, his whole frame would be dissolved.' In such inconceivable splendour is the Divine Majesty revealed to the inhabitants of the celestial world, where he is said to 'dwell in the light which no man can approach unto.' By the 'face of God,' therefore, we are to understand that light inaccessible before which angels may stand, but which would be so insufferable to mortal eyes, that no man could see it and live."

If they are claiming omniscience, I would expect the whole "I am GOD" thing would need some clarification. Which culture's God? And so on.
I mean isn't the voice of the God of Abraham instantly recognizable? (Sheep and Shepard etc.)