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MILLIONS of Britons face being snooped on by a new European intelligence agency which has been handed frightening powers to pry into our lives.

Europol can access personal information on anyone – including their political opinions and sexual preferences – if it suspects, rightly or wrongly, that they may be involved in any “preparatory act” which could lead to criminal activity.

The vagueness of the Hague-based force’s remit sparked furious protests yesterday with critics warning that the EU snoopers threaten our right to free speech.

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no... just, no.

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I read an article somewhere saying that the US keeps any e-mails from American based providers irrespective of the nationality of person whose account it is (ie Hotmail accounts).

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yeah, we don't need the EU to interfere with things that our own government would like to do themselves.

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I read an article somewhere saying that the US keeps any e-mails from American based providers irrespective of the nationality of person whose account it is (ie Hotmail accounts).

we have a very dark future in front of us, my friend. all over the world.

yeah, we don't need the EU to interfere with things that our own government would like to do themselves.

we already have an ever-increasing police state. it's only going to get worse. according to the article, we would be subject to investigation for actions that aren't even crimes in this country. gestapo was an accurate description in my opinion.

tell you something for nothing, i WILL NOT be living in this country to see these dark times.

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If anybody has a link to the actual document handing new powers to Europol could they post it. Haven't had any luck finding it yet

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If anybody has a link to the actual document handing new powers to Europol could they post it. Haven't had any luck finding it yet

You won't find any... it is just the usual BNP propaganda piece.

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You won't find any... it is just the usual BNP propaganda piece.

sorry, what?

BNP?

propaganda?

could you explain please?

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that article seems to a bit sensationalist, but I'm not a fan of the Data Retention Directive either.

I'm afraid it might pass here too because the Conservative Party is afraid of losing the EEA deal.

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just to think Europol was just a drugs unit. but over the years its been steadily growing in power. you only had to read the Lisbon treaty to see what the next step was. from a drugs Unit to combating terrorism and cross border crime. its mission creep - with each amendment.

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just to think Europol was just a drugs unit. but over the years its been steadily growing in power. you only had to read the Lisbon treaty to see what the next step was. from a drugs Unit to combating terrorism and cross border crime. its mission creep - with each amendment.

it's truly shocking that this whole affair has been allowed to proceed, when it is clear that the british people want nothing to do with this farce.

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sorry, what?

BNP?

propaganda?

could you explain please?

Let me rephrase that: Just another piece to rile up some support for Britain leaving the Union,

created by the usual reactionary nationalistic circles.

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But is there any actual factual basis to it, and is it as it's presented by the Express, or are they misrepresenting it?

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But is there any actual factual basis to it, and is it as it's presented by the Express, or are they misrepresenting it?

Its factual, why should a FBI style EU agency be allowed to hold personal information.

who are these people, not elected by you or me, not accountable to you or me.

like i said before the lisbon treaty opened the door. from humble beginnings europol started has a drugs unit. now through the years bit by bit its now set to deal with

• drug trafficking;

• illegal immigration networks;

• terrorism;

• forgery of money (the Euro) and other means of payment;

• trafficking in human beings, including child pornography;

• illegal vehicle trafficking; and

• money-laundering..

But this should come as no surprise. this is exactly how the EU works start off small and over time condition people - from a common market based on trade to now directly influencing our every day lives. and we pay for the privilege.

Britain is paying 6.4 billion plus 800 million extra this year and £7.6 billion next year. am sure the UK could find better things to spend the £7.6 Billion on. its about time this farce came to a end.

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But is there any actual factual basis to it, and is it as it's presented by the Express, or are they misrepresenting it?

There is a 50 people agency called Europol that mostly works as middle man between European police and coordinates international searches for wanted people. They have as much police power as you and me.

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There is a 50 people agency called Europol that mostly works as middle man between European police and coordinates international searches for wanted people. They have as much police power as you and me.

Dont upset the extremist xenophobes too much Q.

You and I know this is just "Hot air", to support a specific agenda. I am sure that no-one has actually researched this for themselves (particularly those with nothing good to say about the EU).

As implied from my previous post, I am completely unable to verify this editorial, which itself does not include any factual (or otherwise) links to support what is just editorial license, but intended to incense those too stupid to question it's veracity

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There is a 50 people agency called Europol that mostly works as middle man between European police and coordinates international searches for wanted people. They have as much police power as you and me.

to be fair its not about them being a middle man europol as its place in tackling crime. its more a case of them being able to hold personal data. i dont even like my own government holding to much information because they cant be trusted to keep it safe. so it goes without saying i wouldn't trust a foreign agency EU-europol holding personal details. and i think any right minded person would raise a eyebrow. but then again some people just get swept along on the sea of apathy.

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to be fair its not about them being a middle man europol as its place in tackling crime. its more a case of them being able to hold personal data. i dont even like my own government holding to much information because they cant be trusted to keep it safe. so it goes without saying i wouldn't trust a foreign agency EU-europol holding personal details. and i think any right minded person would raise a eyebrow. but then again some people just get swept along on the sea of apathy.

exactly.

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to be fair its not about them being a middle man europol as its place in tackling crime. its more a case of them being able to hold personal data. i dont even like my own government holding to much information because they cant be trusted to keep it safe. so it goes without saying i wouldn't trust a foreign agency EU-europol holding personal details. and i think any right minded person would raise a eyebrow. but then again some people just get swept along on the sea of apathy.

Yeh...but you have no problem with the Tesco shopping card, do you?

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Yeh...but you have no problem with the Tesco shopping card, do you?

don't have a shopping card for tesco or asda or any of them. am careful about who holds my personal information, obviously the government at the click of a button could give you my life history, through having birth certificate, national insurance, driving licence, passport banking etc....but there is simply no way around these if you want to live a life. so what's your point.

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don't have a shopping card for tesco or asda or any of them. am careful about who holds my personal information, obviously the government at the click of a button could give you my life history, through having birth certificate, national insurance, driving licence, passport banking etc....but there is simply no way around these if you want to live a life. so what's your point.

simply, that this is not about personal data, this is about creating a reaction. The simple fact that they use terms like Gestapo for a 50 person outfit that cannot even arrest you (they would have to ask your local police to do that and they would only do it if the offense is punishable in your country)is proving that. It is all part of a nationalistic campaign against the EU...which evidently sells newspapers around your neck of the woods.

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which evidently sells newspapers around your neck of the woods.

trust me, in this country, news is NOT what sells papers.

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It is all part of a nationalistic campaign against the EU...which evidently sells newspapers around your neck of the woods.

I think that line highlights well this rut that is dictating nearly all political views lately - one where if you are not in favour of being in a particular group/organisation/treaty or whatever, then it implies your against it for unsavoury reasons, rather then the middle view which says you think it has value and merit, but it's not for you.

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simply, that this is not about personal data, this is about creating a reaction. The simple fact that they use terms like Gestapo for a 50 person outfit that cannot even arrest you (they would have to ask your local police to do that and they would only do it if the offense is punishable in your country)is proving that. It is all part of a nationalistic campaign against the EU...which evidently sells newspapers around your neck of the woods.

you started talking about tesco cards i fail to see how that ties in with what you've replied with. :P but never mind, good lad, job done.

I think that line highlights well this rut that is dictating nearly all political views lately - one where if you are not in favour of being in a particular group/organisation/treaty or whatever, then it implies your against it for unsavoury reasons, rather then the middle view which says you think it has value and merit, but it's not for you.

somehow if you disagree with the EU, you get classed with words ending in -phobe or -ist. its as if the EU shouldn't be questioned - disagreed with, some seem to think their opinions are the default for everyone else, and we should live our lives according to what they want.

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somehow if you disagree with the EU, you get classed with words ending in -phobe or -ist. its as if the EU shouldn't be questioned - disagreed with, some seem to think their opinions are the default for everyone else, and we should live our lives according to what they want.

There is a difference between questioning and calling it all kind of pejoratives. The former is creatively engaged, the latter only about denying its usefulness.

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