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Is Science Running Out of Things to Discover?

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 08:56 PM

The latest evidence is a "Correspondence" published today in the journal Nature. A group of six researchers, led by Santo Fortunato, professor of complex systems at Aalto University in Finland, points out that it is taking longer and longer for scientists to receive Nobel Prizes for their work.

http://news.national...eory-inflation/

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 10:41 PM

Maybe all the 'big' discoveries have already been made, and what's left may be beyond the reach of the human intellect.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 11:05 PM

Even if we discovered God the question should persist, " What lies beyond that? "


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Posted 12 April 2014 - 11:09 PM

We dont even fully understand how gravity or light works yet.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 11:42 PM

Scheming B said:

We dont even fully understand how gravity or light works yet.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves

True. I think in the late 1800s there was talk of closing the U.S. Patent Office because there was nothing new to be discovered.

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Posted 12 April 2014 - 11:51 PM

Plus, I dont even have cybernetic implants that shoot lasers yet.

How can we say we're at the zenith of science without me being able to be a walking weapon of death?

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 12:20 AM

Yeah, as noted by those above, there is much yet to discovered, or perhaps even "understood"

From what I've heard, there is a great deal about the human brain that we still do not fully understand.

Research in the medicine or medicinal herbs and such to deal with human disease or mental disorders.

I hear that there is a robust series of studies going on regarding Nature's toxins for potential human benefit.

A considerable amount of plant and animal species are estimated to be still undiscovered, and with unknown properties.

In physics, wow, watch out. There is much we still do not know, especially regarding quantum events and how to properly manipulate this truly bizzare realm. Also, the "carrier force" of free-space magnetism is completely unknown to this day- the speculation is some type of virtual photon.

Virtual particles are highy mathematically suggested in some phenomenon, but have never been actually observed; only their "effects"

I could go on-and-on.

Edited by pallidin, 13 April 2014 - 12:23 AM.


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 12:25 AM

Nah.   It just doesn't seem possible to ...  run out of things to discover ?      And then, discovery is often a beginning?   ..then gaining understanding of  something, or everything, is an endless process as well ?

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Posted 13 April 2014 - 01:29 AM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 12 April 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:



True. I think in the late 1800s there was talk of closing the U.S. Patent Office because there was nothing new to be discovered.

The unbelievers have tried similar since the 'invention' of fire.


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 08:02 AM

I'd say we are just scraping the surface of what there is to discover. With each new breakthrough there opens a new medium for discovery. We just need another big breakthrough.


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 08:48 AM

Is science running out of things to discover?  It doesn't seem that way, and scientists will always have work to do filling in the details, but maybe we are beginning to find the edges of what can be comprehended by the human mind in areas like cosmology (what might or might not exist outside our cosmos) and physics (the nature of space and time) and psychology (the nature of sentience and consciousness).


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Posted 13 April 2014 - 09:34 AM

There are still cancer/epidemics and other life-threatening illness, low effectiveness rates in energy recovery
and we do not have any tool to protect us from asteroids, for example. These are some of the research fields
that are common known, but who knows about something like in this fashion:
(...) Versatile convergent synthesis of a three peptide loop containing protein mimic of whooping cough pertactin
by successive Cu(I)-catalyzed azide alkyne cycloaddition on an orthogonal alkyne functionalized TAC-scaffold (...)
This does not sound such sexy as the invention of the wheel so it will not find its way into the extended public community but this kind of research represents the bigger part of the cake.
I think the fields to be researched are still boundless and the more is known, the more will be to be researched
on science disciplines cross-border effects.
As for the Nobel price issue, discovery time/time to recieve, I would say there are two reasons. Higgs did his
discovery in the early 60s by using his brain, paper and pens and the technology to proof his claim was just
available >50 years later. The other reason might be the kind of process of the decision making by the Nobel commission and maybe there are, based on the high advanced technology available for research that was
developed within the last 50y, always a hudge number of discoveries on a Nobel level what will cause the
time expanding for final decisions.

Edited by toast, 13 April 2014 - 09:39 AM.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 02:41 PM

The truth is scientists are getting lazier and lazier ...


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:41 PM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 12 April 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:



True. I think in the late 1800s there was talk of closing the U.S. Patent Office because there was nothing new to be discovered.

Yes, exactly. And bearing in mind that we don't know what we don't know, this seems a very dubious theory. And after the discovering, comes the understanding.

Long way to go.


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Posted 26 April 2014 - 02:26 PM

I can't yet mind-control any of you..

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Edited by Mikko-kun, 26 April 2014 - 02:28 PM.

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One thing there's more room for, is humility. Can you answer the question whether we're the epitome of existence, or extensions of it? Whatever existence, god, holiness, the god particle, life, or whatever it is.




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