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[brothers]

Serbian or Siberian. Two different places.

[~C.S.M~]

Siberian winter in Serbia?

[GirlfromOz]

This poor man has lived this way for 15 years!How has society not seen this man's plight?The Russians must be hardened to people that suffer from homelessness etc! I cannot understand!Can someone please explain!

[GirlfromOz]

This poor man has lived this way for 15 years!How has society not seen this man's plight?The Russians must be hardened to people that suffer from homelessness etc! I cannot understand!Can someone please explain!

[Timonthy]

GirlfromOz, on 16 February 2013 - 10:48 AM, said:

This poor man has lived this way for 15 years!How has society not seen this man's plight?The Russians must be hardened to people that suffer from homelessness etc! I cannot understand!Can someone please explain!

It's the same in any major first world country. There are thousands of homeless. And it's unfortunate, but we can't give them all homes.

Women with children etc. get the government housing. People that need it more than a single homeless man.

[seeder]

If he died of the cold or something, wonder where they will bury him? In his 'home'?

[CosmoLogic]

Is this legal? LOL

[Mistydawn]

Reading through the responses to this makes cringe.
Can’t you please try just try to empathise, sympathise or just plain stop  moralising?
If someone lives this way, day in, day out, they need to be helped, or at the very tiny least, shown compassion and understanding.
How can any of us judge when we don’t know the whole story of this man’s life, or how we would have reacted ourselves.
I think he must have stamina beyond most of our capabilities to withstand this kind of life.

[seeder]

Mistydawn, on 16 February 2013 - 06:37 PM, said:

Reading through the responses to this makes cringe.
Can’t you please try just try to empathise, sympathise or just plain stop  moralising?
If someone lives this way, day in, day out, they need to be helped, or at the very tiny least, shown compassion and understanding.
How can any of us judge when we don’t know the whole story of this man’s life, or how we would have reacted ourselves.
I think he must have stamina beyond most of our capabilities to withstand this kind of life.

You know, its easy to say what you say, but you need to consider something first. When I was a lad, every year but at differing times, would come along a certain, very charming vagabond. Or homeless man as we say nowadays, and he would setup his fire and kettle right under one of my "favorite for climbing" Oak trees.

Now my step dad owned several houses to let, as well as a substantial caravan park, which always had a few vacancies. He would tell this old tinker every year, he can stay in a caravan, gratis, but the old tinker declined each and every time. He'd say he was HAPPY to be homeless. Happy to travel about and not have ties. HAPPY in that way of life... and there are many like him. My mum used to give him tea bags, sugar, some cans of beans and ham etc, and the next day.... he was gone again.

Not every homeless person should evoke sympathy.

Besides all that...re-read the story:

Bratislav Stojanovic, a homeless man, walks out of a tomb where he lives in southern Serbian town of Nis February 9, 2013. Stojanovic, 43, a Nis-born construction worker, never had a regular job. He first lived in abandoned houses, but about 15 years ago he settled in the old city cemetery.

And free-loading squatters choose to live in empty houses too, while doing everything possible NOT to have a job or fit in with regular society.  Some people are just like that. In a tomb for 15 years and living in empty houses even before that? Im sure if he needed or wanted help - he may have been offered it in over 15 years. Clearly even without a job he is eating and being clothed, plus one or two of the pics show him smoking, so he is getting handouts or cash from somewhere..

But its just something else to consider.




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Edited by seeder, 16 February 2013 - 08:05 PM.

[Mistydawn]

seeder, on 16 February 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

You know, its easy to say what you say, but you need to consider something first. When I was a lad, every year but at differing times, would come along a certain, very charming vagabond. Or homeless man as we say nowadays, and he would setup his fire and kettle right under one of my "favorite for climbing" Oak trees.

Now my step dad owned several houses to let, as well as a substantial caravan park, which always had a few vacancies. He would tell this old tinker every year, he can stay in a caravan, gratis, but the old tinker declined each and every time. He'd say he was HAPPY to be homeless. Happy to travel about and not have ties. HAPPY in that way of life... and there are many like him. My mum used to give him tea bags, sugar, some cans of beans and ham etc, and the next day.... he was gone again.

Not every homeless person should evoke sympathy.

Besides all that...re-read the story:

Bratislav Stojanovic, a homeless man, walks out of a tomb where he lives in southern Serbian town of Nis February 9, 2013. Stojanovic, 43, a Nis-born construction worker, never had a regular job. He first lived in abandoned houses, but about 15 years ago he settled in the old city cemetery.

And free-loading squatters choose to live in empty houses too, while doing everything possible NOT to have a job or fit in with regular society.  Some people are just like that. In a tomb for 15 years and living in empty houses even before that? Im sure if he needed or wanted help - he may have been offered it in over 15 years. Clearly even without a job he is eating and being clothed, plus one or two of the pics show him smoking, so he is getting handouts or cash from somewhere..

But its just something else to consider.




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seeder, what your Mother did showed compassion and kindness.
This man's choice not to re-join society and behave in a "normal" way only goes to show that he had issues or problems that went unresolved.

I am not saying that we, those paying taxes and living life in the "normal" way should bolster and uphold those who don't, only that we should try to show comappsion and understanding and help were it is needed.

[seeder]

Mistydawn, on 16 February 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

seeder, what your Mother did showed compassion and kindness.
This man's choice not to re-join society and behave in a "normal" way only goes to show that he had issues or problems that went unresolved.

I am not saying that we, those paying taxes and living life in the "normal" way should bolster and uphold those who don't, only that we should try to show comappsion and understanding and help were it is needed.

take a looky at this. HOMELESS MUSTARD!

But boys and girls he does say the F word... (its called expressing a point strongly)



made my sisters cry that did... BUT

read his story, and note he finishes with

Where do you see yourself in five, ten years from now?

"I’d really just love to be able to continue to do this. I know I’m not going to be a Justin Beiber or Justin Timberlake or Lady Gaga, but I’d just like to be able to do this to where I don’t have to do anything else. I want to be recording, touring, maybe in a relationship with a couple of dogs. My aspirations are not huge. I don’t want a mansion on the hill, I dont want fifty cars, I don’t want my own island. I just want to be able to live doing music, and I don’t think that’s an impossible goal.

read his story
http://www.thevinyld...ge-days-indeed/

I absolutely LOVE his stuff. Maybe my mum made me look at people  in the same boat with a bit o kindness too?





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Edited by seeder, 16 February 2013 - 09:27 PM.

[woopypooky]

he could be mistaken as a living dead and being hacked to pieces

[CRIPTIC CHAMELEON]

I hope he was never awoken by a necrophilia.

Edited by CRIPTIC CHAMELEON, 18 February 2013 - 07:47 PM.

[ReddWolfe]

If i was homeless I would rather live on the street then in a graveyard. I'd feel that i was being jinxed to my own death.

[CuriousGreek]

seeder, on 16 February 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

If he died of the cold or something, wonder where they will bury him? In his 'home'?

Um, not thinking of another place to bury him to!!