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[uprize]

I have to agree with most people that the video shows bugs of some sort.
In fact at one point in the video they cut away from the shot as they film the object flying up the sky, and you see another object MUCH closer to the camera shooting downwards.

Its bugs, sorry.

[drpaxton]

What surpises me more than the 'expert' is the News Film Crew themselves. This is Denver, not some po-dunk town. Certainly in filming several stories outside a day, every day they would recognize these as bugs. Was it just the power of sugestion that they miss that here?

[Gaden]

drpaxton, on 17 November 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

What surpises me more than the 'expert' is the News Film Crew themselves. This is Denver, not some po-dunk town. Certainly in filming several stories outside a day, every day they would recognize these as bugs. Was it just the power of sugestion that they miss that here?

Probably more likely the power of money and the desire to get a story out before doing any real investigation.

[freetoroam]

-M7, on 09 November 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

Said to be spotted every day between noon and 1p.m.

Its been video taped by private camera and news camera.

you would think that with the technology we have today, that someone could get a much clearer, zoomed in picture. Its not as if they do not know when it will appear........it seems that Johnny goes to lunch at 12 every day, and plays about with his gadgets before returning to his desk at Qwest communications.

[DieChecker]

drpaxton, on 17 November 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

What surpises me more than the 'expert' is the News Film Crew themselves. This is Denver, not some po-dunk town. Certainly in filming several stories outside a day, every day they would recognize these as bugs. Was it just the power of sugestion that they miss that here?

You're assuming that the News People are any smarter then Joe At-Home. The Producers and On Air people are all most likely simply Journalism, or Acting majors who don't know a lick of real science. They don't know if someone is lying about these being UFOs. They just repeat what they are told to say.

[Mnemonix]

Coffey, on 10 November 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Yeah that looks identical.

So obviously just filming insects, Fox news filmed them as well and the "aviation expert" is an idiot and fraud.

Case closed then.

You forgot the possibility that the falcon caught a tiny UFO with it's alien passengers on board. No one specified how big alien life or technology had to be right?

I'm just being sarcastic, the insect in the clip does look identical to whatever was in the original footage.

[booNyzarC]

Not like it's much of a question anymore for most, but...

Denver UFOs Likely Insects, Says Cinematographer

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Life's Little Mysteries asked the opinion of Larry Engel, the associate director of American University's Center for Environmental Filmmaking, who has filmed insects both intentionally and inadvertently during his decades of work on science and nature documentaries.

"I've spent a lot of time around bugs, whether for a film about mosquitoes, on the upper peninsula of Michigan filming bald eagles, or deep in Amazonian jungles. And they are indeed an issue when filming, especially with wide-angle cameras or small-format cameras, as each emphasizes or records objects, including dust and bugs, close to the lens," Engel wrote in an email, adding that he's resorted to applying bug repellant to a camera's sunshade or enlisting a fan-wielding assistant to prevent insects from crowding a shot.

The KDVR UFO segment uses stylized, dramatic editing that seems to discourage objective analysis, and Engel notes that, with only the information available, "determining factually what's going on is nearly impossible." Still, his best guess is bugs.

"I would suggest that these do look like insects, flitting about near the camera. But no one on the broadcast reports anything about insects in the field," he said.

Also of note from the article:

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Luckily, there's a clear-cut way to scientifically test the bug hypothesis for anyone with enough interest to follow through, and Denver members of the social media site Reddit are already on it.

They say they plan to set two cameras a fair distance apart at the UFO-spotting site but pointed toward the same point on the horizon. If one camera records a flying object in its field of vision, but the other doesn't, it will be obvious that the object was close to the camera that recorded it.

If both cameras record an object darting around in the far distance and the citizen scientists document and report their findings thoroughly, the Denver UFO story will likely get more coverage.

[DONTEATUS]

So a Bug it is ! THat just Bug`s me !

[SwampgasBalloonBoy]

DONTEATUS, on 25 November 2012 - 04:46 AM, said:

So a Bug it is ! THat just Bug`s me !

Bugs are everywhere. Hopefully they'll eat bug instead of us

[Matt Vinyl]

zoser, on 09 November 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

OK just went for a cycle ride to blow out the cobwebs; here are the other 3 originals; look carefully for the object.  If anyone finds multiple objects per shot I will be interested,

*Snip!*

Heh, I thought I saw two objects in the second shot, only to touch my computer screen and find that it was a tiny part of yesterdays soup. DOH!

[Sean93]

Film the Denver UFO with a high speed Phantom flex camera at say 5000 fps with a good optical lens for zooming and then we'll see wutda**** it really is.

[Sean93]

****? **** is bad word?

...****.

[zoser]

booNyzarC, on 24 November 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

Not like it's much of a question anymore for most, but...

Denver UFOs Likely Insects, Says Cinematographer




Also of note from the article:

He's not a UFO skeptic by any chance is he Boon?  And btw the bug theory is ridiculous (remember the capsule and the cone shape).  Those images are only a few pages back.

Edited by zoser, 27 November 2012 - 07:18 PM.

[booNyzarC]

zoser, on 27 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

He's not a UFO skeptic by any chance is he Boon?  

I have no idea if he is or not.  Why don't you contact him and ask him?

zoser, on 27 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

And btw the bug theory is ridiculous (remember the capsule and the cone shape).  Those images are only a few pages back.

No, "the bug theory" isn't ridiculous at all, you just have no idea what bugs look like in footage like this (despite having been spoon fed several comparative examples...)

[zoser]

booNyzarC, on 27 November 2012 - 08:21 PM, said:

No, "the bug theory" isn't ridiculous at all, you just have no idea what bugs look like in footage like this (despite having been spoon fed several comparative examples...)

Then please show me the capsule and cone like images from these other cases if you wouldn't mind?  Otherwise this case is not bugs it's something else.

Sorry to put a fly in the ointment

Edited by zoser, 27 November 2012 - 08:30 PM.