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#1    Sakari

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 11:20 PM

I have been having this happen a lot to me lately. More newer people, but the same thing.

First, I want to point out if someone is on a open discussion board as this one, do they not know what " open discussion " means?

Second, I have no issues with anyone believing whatever they want, it is when they say their belief is fact, and have no evidence to support this. This is exactly what some do with their religions, they preach it as fact, and we all know how religion and politic discussions end up.

Also, if someone does say " this is what I believe", but follow it with " what do you think " , why do they get so damn upset when people start questioning it?

I have some awesome PM's, and replies to me of people acting like I just spat on their mothers grave for debating with them, when they got into the debate.

Statements are taken as if they can hear my tone of typing, when they can not. ( others also, not just me )

Then, some will " follow " people to other topics and generalize on things they said in another topic, but will not talk about it in the proper topic. It is like they are in a battle to get people to believe them, and not someone else. It is actually comical.

Some will put people on ignore, then keep jabbing at them in replies on topics, and even ask them questions when they have them on ignore.....Then, wonder why they do not get answers.


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I've seen it from all kinds; from Pagans to people of the Abrahamic religions to even little known ones, and those who have no belief system at all. Do they interpret any statements as a personal attack? Why is this the case so often? Anyone know?


Above goes for all topics here.


Funny thing, I , and all skeptics I am sure, would love nothing more then to see what people post be real. I WANT to believe some of the things here, I really do.





So, anyone care to share why you get so p***ed off when you get into a discussion on a open forum, about anything paranormal?

And, if you do get so mad, why do you stay on a open discussion board, and not go to a " believers " forum only?


There has to be a reason, and I would love to know what it is.




Now, do not get me wrong, there are great discussions here, it is a minority of people ( both sides ) that get in this " defensive" mode, then go into " attack " mode....

I just want to know why is all.


I have been forming my opinions, I just want to hear others.

I also wish we could get more mature debates/discussions going with people not getting butt hurt over a forum topic.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 11:55 PM

Providing there is nothing said to make the person feel stupid for saying what they did to begin with, there are people that just can't stand someone thinking differently than them.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:03 AM

View PostHilander, on 31 May 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Providing there is nothing said to make the person feel stupid for saying what they did to begin with, there are people that just can't stand someone thinking differently than them.


I agree, but why?

There are also people that do not want to hear opinions or facts, unless they are the same as theirs.



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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:29 AM

There's no '1 reason', ...there's as many reasons as people that post here at UM.

The other night I had an exasperating converstion with an atheist about agnosticism. For them, it was black or white, one side of the fence or nothing. It was like I was being asked for the 'proof of agnosticism'.

A month or so ago, someone was complaining that the conspiracy forum should belong only to the people that believe the conspiracy theories, so that they could have a place to freely discuss their evidence.

That's the thing, 'open discussion' is open to everyone that opens an account. Given that many people, there will be a lot that will get 'butt hurt' over the slightest imagined transgression.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:32 AM

View PostHilander, on 31 May 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

Providing there is nothing said to make the person feel stupid for saying what they did to begin with, there are people that just can't stand someone thinking differently than them.

What you have to remember is:

When in discussion with anyone, you have to remember that they believe that their "answers that are right to them" are equally as "right as your answers are to you"

If you are not willing to bow down to their opinions why should they to yours... You have to agree to disagree, until such a time one is of  you is proven right.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:48 AM

View Postxsas, on 01 June 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

What you have to remember is:

When in discussion with anyone, you have to remember that they believe that their "answers that are right to them" are equally as "right as your answers are to you"

If you are not willing to bow down to their opinions why should they to yours... You have to agree to disagree, until such a time one is of  you is proven right.


Then, there is no discussion.

As I said, why even bother then?

Neither needs to bow down to anyone.

And, as I said, again, " if they state it is jut a belief I do not mind "

When they state their belief as fact, that is where discussion should happen.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:48 AM

View PostSakari, on 31 May 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

Now, do not get me wrong, there are great discussions here, it is a minority of people ( both sides ) that get in this " defensive" mode, then go into " attack " mode....

I just want to know why is all.


I have been forming my opinions, I just want to hear others.

I also wish we could get more mature debates/discussions going with people not getting butt hurt over a forum topic.

The problems only occur when one side claims that their opinions are right, and all others are wrong. Then they continue to mock and condescend onto those with different beliefs. (Basically the same as Christianity does to Atheists. "if you do not believe in god you are ignorant and will burn in hellfire")

That is why people take offense, because they are being offended.
The whole problem will cease to exist as soon as people learn to respect each other's rights to different beliefs.

My posts consist of my opinions, beliefs, and experiences, feel free to disagree in a respectful manner.

I have a right to my beleifs, just as you have a right to not agree with them.

So long as we respect each other's beliefs, we won't have a single problem.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:56 AM

View PostxFelix, on 01 June 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

The problems only occur when one side claims that their opinions are right, and all others are wrong. Then they continue to mock and condescend onto those with different beliefs. (Basically the same as Christianity does to Atheists. "if you do not believe in god you are ignorant and will burn in hellfire")

That is why people take offense, because they are being offended.
The whole problem will cease to exist as soon as people learn to respect each other's rights to different beliefs.


See, this is where this topic is.

You are correct, when people think their " opinions " are fact. That is what I said.

And you also pointed out they continue to mock and be condescending. I have been accused of this, when no quotes could be supported of me doing that. That is what I mean. Some people can not handle a discussion, even a " heated " one, without taking things personal, and trying to read in feelings and tone into replies. ( yes, some are out right obvious ).

I can show you a ton of examples of people getting offended, for no reason other then people asking them questions, or asking for evidence, or links and facts. It is just dumb.

These people are not being offended, they are taking offense because people do not believe them on their opinion, and try to discuss it.

As said, I have my hypothesis why.




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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:02 AM

I've noticed throughout the years that Christians with the type A mindset often fall prey to arrogance.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:18 AM

Ah Sakari, it's just cuz you a snarky cussed jackanape :) Just teasing you!

Really, people do get all flaked out when someone has a different opinion. They get extra flaked out when one is forthright and steadfast in their opinion.
One that I don't get is when you take the time to choose your words, and then someone decides to quote you and say "in other words.. ". Nope, no other words, if I had meant other words I would have chosen them instead of the ones I did. I see a lot of people that have differing opinions do this. Heck, I've seen people do this when I could swear they are actually on the same side of a subject and just putting it in two different ways.

I don't know why some folks get so mad about it. I've for sure had my pride pinked on UM, but usually I'm more pleased to have better information or truer knowledge than I am upset that I was wrong or that someone isn't agreeing with me. I'm also willing enough to shrug it off, agree to disagree, and just leave the thread or move on with it.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:21 AM

this is why I tend to stay away from supernatural forums sak, too rabid for me.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:23 AM

View PostJ. K., on 01 June 2013 - 01:02 AM, said:

I've noticed throughout the years that Christians with the type A mindset often fall prey to arrogance.
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what's a 'type A mindset' J.K?

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:35 AM

View Postrashore, on 01 June 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Ah Sakari, it's just cuz you a snarky cussed jackanape :) Just teasing you!

Really, people do get all flaked out when someone has a different opinion. They get extra flaked out when one is forthright and steadfast in their opinion.
One that I don't get is when you take the time to choose your words, and then someone decides to quote you and say "in other words.. ". Nope, no other words, if I had meant other words I would have chosen them instead of the ones I did. I see a lot of people that have differing opinions do this. Heck, I've seen people do this when I could swear they are actually on the same side of a subject and just putting it in two different ways.

I don't know why some folks get so mad about it. I've for sure had my pride pinked on UM, but usually I'm more pleased to have better information or truer knowledge than I am upset that I was wrong or that someone isn't agreeing with me. I'm also willing enough to shrug it off, agree to disagree, and just leave the thread or move on with it.




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You are right.

I have people take something from me, say " Demons do not exist " and exagerate that to " the paranormal does not exist "........

Pretty broad jump  there :)

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 01:48 AM

View PostSakari, on 01 June 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

Look above my avatar :)


You are right.

I have people take something from me, say " Demons do not exist " and exagerate that to " the paranormal does not exist "........

Pretty broad jump  there :)

OMG Sakari that's funny as hell!


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 02:34 AM

View PostxFelix, on 01 June 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:



...Then they continue to mock and condescend onto those with different beliefs. (Basically the same as Christianity does to Atheists. "if you do not believe in god you are ignorant and will burn in hellfire")

Or when atheists infer that theists are ignorant inbred hill-billies?

I don't believe either side, I just believe that we live on a two/three way street and all are allowed equal access.

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