GreyMauser Posted January 18, 2005 #1 Share Posted January 18, 2005 (edited) [attachmentid=10796] I act in community theatre. I recently played the lead role of Ichabod Crane in the legend of sleepy hollow at a very old theatre that is reputed to have at least three ghosts in it. After finishing the play, cast photos were taken on the last day and when i recieved the pics I was startled to see a spirit orb in one of the photos. Normally these can be explained by dust on the camera lens or dust floating in the air centimeters from the camera, but this orb was partially eclipsed by one of the actor's shawls, showing that the orb in question was not between the camera and the stage. I do believe in ghosts, although I am pretty skeptical of photographic proof. Yet this has me stumped to the point that I believe this is a photo of a genuine orb. Does anyone have any ideas of what else this could be? (edit) dammit, the board says the pic is too large. Will attempt to crop. Edited January 18, 2005 by GreyMauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diebytheflyguy Posted January 18, 2005 #2 Share Posted January 18, 2005 (edited) I don't know.... It looks like it's on the camera lense. Welcome to the Forum! Edited January 18, 2005 by Diebytheflyguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyMauser Posted January 18, 2005 Author #3 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Save the pic, open it and zoom in. You can see the lady's shawl obscures it. You'll also see a blue nimbus around it's edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeyman Posted January 19, 2005 #4 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Okay where exactly are we looking....i have a very clear picture but can see no orb at all.........?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kassumi Posted January 19, 2005 #5 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Do you mean the huge blob in the background? Cause that looks like a fingerprint or smear on the lense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivel Posted January 19, 2005 #6 Share Posted January 19, 2005 If you notice..theres a very faint image resembling the "orb" that you're talking about behind the girl who is bending over in the pink skirt and a red shawl (or whatever they call it). Its probably just light reflecting is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogeyman Posted January 19, 2005 #7 Share Posted January 19, 2005 If you notice..theres a very faint image resembling the "orb" that you're talking about behind the girl who is bending over in the pink skirt and a red shawl (or whatever they call it). Its probably just light reflecting is all. 455796[/snapback] No still cant see anything...and my download of the picture is crystal clear...will try lighten it up some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portuguesezzzgangster Posted January 19, 2005 #8 Share Posted January 19, 2005 i see alot of anomalies in the picture. maybe a ligth effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyMauser Posted January 20, 2005 Author #9 Share Posted January 20, 2005 It's on the left, immediately beside the last girl on the left, at the level of her thighs. And thanks Jayman for pointing out the other one, I missed it. Quite a bit fainter, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diebytheflyguy Posted January 20, 2005 #10 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Lets look at it this way. If this spirt has enough energy to make an orb that big it would turn out (in the picture) as an apparation (human figure) not an orb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyMauser Posted January 20, 2005 Author #11 Share Posted January 20, 2005 (edited) Bleh, sorry, I just assumed anyone posting here would have at least a passing familiarity with orbs. But hey, it's never too late to learn. http://www.ghosttracker.com/photos-Fakes.html http://www.ghosttracker.com/photos-04-11-07SuzyPITT.html http://www.ghosttracker.com/photos-03-03-0...nsionDepth.html Read that, then look at the picture again. Light effects do not hide behind people, not to mention no light sources are in the picture and no reflective surfaces were on stage. The only light was ambient lighting overhead behind a drop that masks them from the audience, which is where the photo was taken. Edited January 20, 2005 by GreyMauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayce Posted January 21, 2005 #12 Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) The problem is that orbs are the most criticized form of paranormal evidence. Photos containing orbs have became the most popular ghost image since the creation of digital cameras. I personally disregard orb photos that were taken with a digital. I am a photographer and I do both digital and film work. I have often gotten orbs in digital work in bad lighting situations that I did not get on the film taken at the same location and time. This orb is interesting that it seems to be behind the individual on the stage. It can't be considered proof of a haunting though. You must expect people to try to explain it away. Even those of us with experience and study in orbs will look for every explanation. It doesn't mean they have no knowledge in orbs though. Orbs are generally solid and have even been known to create shadows. This orb is shaped exactly like a large lens flare. The part of the orb that is hiding behind the individual is the extreme edge and the person it is "behind" is wearing an off white shawl and a white apron. This would cause the lens flare to appear behind her because it is a soft light flare that could easily blend into her brighter clothing. I feel this flare is caused from a non-direction light reflection on the lens. This could be caused by light difference between the dark backdrop and the lighter clothing of the people. I have had many situations where a model I am working with is posing in front of a dark backdrop with lighter clothing or skin. It causes a soft reflection from their skin which flares on the lens. This can either create a large lens flare or soft glow effect on the model. This is just my opinion and professional experiance as a photographer. Was this taken with digital or film? Edited January 21, 2005 by rayce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyMauser Posted January 21, 2005 Author #13 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Digital, I'm afraid. Thank you for your reply and a reasonable explanation. It was for precisely that that I came here. Is it normal for a blue nimbus to appear around the edge of such an anomaly? And what is your opinion of the second, lighter orb behind the girl in the red shawl on the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo cloud 8900 Posted January 21, 2005 #14 Share Posted January 21, 2005 a piece of dust, nice try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayce Posted January 25, 2005 #15 Share Posted January 25, 2005 Digital, I'm afraid. Thank you for your reply and a reasonable explanation. It was for precisely that that I came here. Is it normal for a blue nimbus to appear around the edge of such an anomaly? And what is your opinion of the second, lighter orb behind the girl in the red shawl on the right? 458643[/snapback] There is a slight blue tint to the spot on the left but it isn't just on the outside. You can see spots of color all through it. The dark blue could easily be accounted for by the black background which black has a deep blue coloration to it in certain light. The one behind the girls head on the right is a little harder to explain. I'm trying to see if it goes over the shoulder of the girl and over the head of the girl but it hard to tell. It does look like it goes over her shoulder but because of the white coloration of the bonnet on the girls head, it is hard to tell if it goes over her head or behind it. It does look like it goes over head head if you look at the line of her face under the bonnet. There is a whitish tent to it. Most real orbs create shadows and I see no shadows here. These definately have all the signs of digital orbs and not ghostly orbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayce Posted January 25, 2005 #16 Share Posted January 25, 2005 a piece of dust, nice try 459080[/snapback] Actually not a piece of dust. It is a lens flare. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayce Posted January 26, 2005 #17 Share Posted January 26, 2005 (edited) I did some more research on this and think my theory on why the orb has a deep blue coloration has been confirmed. I went through lots of orb photos and the majority of them were dust or lens flares. If there was a black background they had a deep blue coloration. If there was a red background they had a deep red coloration. And there was one with green walls and chairs and the orbs had a green coloration. Just something interesting I found. Edited January 26, 2005 by rayce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star_child Posted January 26, 2005 #18 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Is it just me or does it have a specific pattern to it? Like wee circles or something? I dunno. Could be any thing, as others have said it could just be the light. I think I'll keep an open mind. As always. From Star_child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerX13 Posted February 3, 2005 #19 Share Posted February 3, 2005 (edited) Here are some differnet views of the large orb. All I did was ajust color channels and such. no doctoring. if you look at the 1st two its almost as if the girl is casting a shadow on the orb. 1. raised brightness 2. desaturated 3,4,and 5. color channels 6. sharpened 7. posterized 8. contours Edited February 3, 2005 by RacerX13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reider21 Posted February 3, 2005 #20 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I saved your photo and reopened it using HP Image Editor and changed a few things and this is what I came up with. It looks real to me, but I'm no expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeblossom Posted February 3, 2005 #21 Share Posted February 3, 2005 it took me ages to fathem out where it was. it's a shame it's not clearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerX13 Posted February 4, 2005 #22 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I did the same to the second orb. I didn't turn the color channels up as much due to the fact that the orb is so faint. Also I'm not poking any fun at anyone but this made me giggle. if you stare at the 1st orb for a bit it looks like a happy face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Posted February 4, 2005 #23 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I can't even see the first one. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Posted February 4, 2005 #24 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I can't even see the first one. Oh well. 475620[/snapback] Ahhhh... there they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyMauser Posted June 7, 2006 Author #25 Share Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) I'd like to get a fresh crop of opinions, so.... Bump If it makes any difference, it was the Paramount theatre in Bristol Tennessee. Edited June 7, 2006 by GreyMauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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