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#1    Scudbuster

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:40 AM

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:47 AM

That is his belief.... he, like the rest of UFOology, has no credible evidence whatsoever.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:27 AM

I guess it has been like 3 months since the last Edgar Mitchell disclosure thread?

So I suppose this was expected. We either have many Goldfish on the forum, or many of struggle with the search function.


It all comes down to:


I, nor any crew I was on (I was on three Apollo crews), received any briefing before or after flights on UFO events, saw anything in space suggesting UFOs or structures on the moon, etc. We did it just like we said in official reports. My only claim to knowledge of these events is from the individuals, mostly of yesteryear, who were in government, intelligence, or military; were there, saw what they saw, and now believe it should be made public. But I claim no first hand knowledge, nor have any. Pass it on to the rest of the net, if you will.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:46 AM

Exactly, Dr. Mitchell is basing his personal opinion on what others have told him. At times all of us do this, we tend to believe people we trust. Most of Dr. Mitchell's beliefs surround what local people have told him about Roswell. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion...Dr. Mitchell is no exception.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 11:59 AM

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Edgar Mitchell was in a position to hear and know a lot more than your average citizen....his contacts with the military and intelligence community for example.

The way he expresses what he has heard and knows...in public...is naturally tempered with his obligations to legally binding National Security Oaths.

The naysayers try and brush away what he says as pure personel opinion.

But why would he go to all that trouble if he was not  sure of his facts...?

He is a clever man who obviously knows the difference between personel opinion and information given by reliable sources....


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

View Postbee, on 07 March 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

But why would he go to all that trouble if he was not  sure of his facts...?

He is a clever man who obviously knows the difference between personel opinion and information given by reliable sources....

The world is filled with people doing exactly the same thing as Mitchell. It doesnt matter if he is an astronaut, police officer, King or Queen, the same rules will apply,... Can he show undisputed hard evidence that ET visitation is real?

Answer - No he can not.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 01:45 PM

Ed Mitchell, Gordon Cooper, Clark McClelland (who was almost an Astronaut)... surelyeven the most hardened Skeptics must admit, the evidence for NASA's UFO Coverup is irrefutable. Logistical, in fact, one mgiht almost go so far as to say. :unsure2:

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:11 PM

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Edgar Mitchell was in a position to hear and know a lot more than your average citizen....his contacts with the military and intelligence community for example.

And yet, he only has his opinion, and NO evidence.  What about all the other astronauts who are in positions to know a lot more than the average citizen who DON'T believe in aliens?  Do their opinions not count because they don't coincide with your agenda?


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

Hearsay and anecdotes ,same old,same old.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:04 PM

View Postbee, on 07 March 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

The way he expresses what he has heard and knows...in public...is naturally tempered with his obligations to legally binding National Security Oaths.

This is the old 'Get-out-of-reality-free' card that eager-believers play to trump first-hand testimony they wish to ignore.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 07 March 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Ed Mitchell, Gordon Cooper, Clark McClelland (who was almost an Astronaut)... surelyeven the most hardened Skeptics must admit, the evidence for NASA's UFO Coverup is irrefutable. Logistical, in fact, one mgiht almost go so far as to say. :unsure2:

Irrefutable? I don't think that word means what you seem to think it means.

We've dealt with the ravings of Clark McClelland in some detail, anybody who think his stories deserve the slightest credibility has a serious reality-denial problem.

Mitchell and Cooper have been explicit -- they never encountered any UFO coverup while at NASA. That's their first-hand experience testimony. What is your problem in believing it?


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostJimOberg, on 07 March 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

Irrefutable? I don't think that word means what you seem to think it means.

We've dealt with the ravings of Clark McClelland in some detail, anybody who think his stories deserve the slightest credibility has a serious reality-denial problem.

Mitchell and Cooper have been explicit -- they never encountered any UFO coverup while at NASA. That's their first-hand experience testimony. What is your problem in believing it?

So do you put no value in Mitchells belief?

Do you not think Mitchell is an intelligent man who is not one to just buy any anecdote given to him and claim it as truth?


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:21 PM

View PostAmerix, on 07 March 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

And yet, he only has his opinion, and NO evidence.  What about all the other astronauts who are in positions to know a lot more than the average citizen who DON'T believe in aliens?  Do their opinions not count because they don't coincide with your agenda?
and what position would you have to be in to be in the 'know'?

View Postshaddow134, on 07 March 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Hearsay and anecdotes ,same old,same old.

at least your response is original


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 03:58 PM

View PostHazzard, on 07 March 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:

Can he show undisputed hard evidence that ET visitation is real?

Answer - No he can not.
Wouldn't matter if he could.... you would debunk it and say it was false anyhow.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:46 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 07 March 2013 - 04:27 AM, said:

It all comes down to:
I, nor any crew I was on (I was on three Apollo crews), received any briefing before or after flights on UFO events, saw anything in space suggesting UFOs or structures on the moon, etc. We did it just like we said in official reports. My only claim to knowledge of these events is from the individuals, mostly of yesteryear, who were in government, intelligence, or military; were there, saw what they saw, and now believe it should be made public. But I claim no first hand knowledge, nor have any. Pass it on to the rest of the net, if you will.
--Edgar Mitchell


So Mitchell is walking the fine line between keeping his oath to NASA (to not directly contradict official information) while still trying to shed light on the 'other things' he knows about?

Not hard to fathom since his pension surely depends on keeping that oath.  He is still taking quite a risk, though...that should tell us much about the importance he places on those 'other things'.

Edgar Mitchell should not be so quickly dismissed, despite what the gaffers around here keep trying to peddle.





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