The Satanic Elite:

[Karlis]

Theoretically, the pathway to a socialist dictatorship is no longer bloody revolution.

Mind control is far more effective in destroying Christianity and establishing a totalitarian state.

The science of mind control is now capable of mass brainwashing.

By Paul McGuire

December 10, 2012

NewsWithViews.com

There exists a secretive Satanic elite, that consists of perhaps twelve men at the very top, who rule the world through banking and international finance. Publicly these men pretend to be humanists, but secretly they have to chosen to worship Lucifer. They are now in the process of the final take over, where they will bring in a one world government and one world economic system, beginning as early as 2018. Their primary means of achieving this goal is through control of the economy and through scientific mind control.

In the United States, the primary evidence for the success of their mind control operation is the fact that the thinking, belief systems, morality, behavior and religious beliefs of the average American have radically changed in just a few short decades. The elites have perfected social engineering to such an extent that they have now indoctrinated several generations of Americans into being anti-Christian, anti-American and Marxist in their belief systems.

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In this article Paul McGuire "hits the highlights" of many key conspiracies for control of Mankind.

Please discuss any of the points raised, or add your own thoughts.

[Simbi Laveau]

This is probably why someone like me,rails against things like forced vaccines , bull**** medicine ,and the control of our food supply .

Wether or not they are santanists ,is another story ,but their principles are the same.

Control ,power ,dupe the people .So its the same mood .

Bill Gates is absolutely one of these people ,and I've been saying this for years .

I actually call him the antichrist ,which makes people laugh...but......

What most people do not know,is that voodoo factions in the USA ,fought Crowley the entire second half of his life ,with numerous attempts on his life .

He was not a Satanist though .His magick was dark,but he was a ceremonial magician ,which had nothing to do with Satan,directly .

Numerous rockstars ,politicans and actors were a part of this group ,including some who dalied with Crowley .

Some switched sides...

It was about the glamour of it all ,at the time.Then it got real ...

Despite what it said about crowleys death,I believe they finally murdered him .

That being said,the voodoo people who fought him ,are also ,still here ...so ,they can *try* to do this ,but just as the witches of England brought down Hitler ,there will always be people who fight the good fight ,even while the sheeple believe everything they see on tv .

[libstaK]

There are 'perhaps twelve of them' at the very top, he knows their entire agenda and yet .... no names . Honestly, when are we going to grow out of fears of the bogeyman/men?

[pallidin]

Oh no, we have another "date" 2018.

Geeze, will this crap ever end?

[Simbi Laveau]

There's no date .It's just continuous torture and subjugation.

[Hasina]

Oh no, we have another "date" 2018.

Geeze, will this crap ever end?

Just gotta wait six years~

[Babe Ruth]

I agree with Simbi's point--the bit about Lucifer is a bit dramatic, but with the name merely as a symbol for "bad guys", the article is most interesting, probably true.

I would say we're already there--the manipulation of the public perception was achieved successfully decades ago, thanks very much to television as we know it.

And in the end, organized religion is nothing but mind control, as it advances all manner of ignorance and superstition. Teaching youngsters to believe in fantasy like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny is a preliminary step to having them believe whatever other fantasy they might be told by those in charge.

But 12? How on earth does anybody know that? I suspect there are way more than 12. Sounds like some play on numerology to me.

[Rafterman]

Rinse and repeat and the conspira-sheeple eat it up - subscribe to the newsletters, buy the videos, go to the conferences, read the books, etc. etc.

When will you guys learn where the real mind control is leading you. Hint, it's not to control the world, it's to control your wallets.

$$$$$$$$$

[Insaniac]

Rinse and repeat and the conspira-sheeple eat it up - subscribe to the newsletters, buy the videos, go to the conferences, read the books, etc. etc.

When will you guys learn where the real mind control is leading you. Hint, it's not to control the world, it's to control your wallets.

$$$$$$$$$

Money makes the world go 'round, as they say. Do the math.

[jugoso]

From Article:

In the United States, the primary evidence for the success of their mind control operation is the fact that the thinking, belief systems, morality, behavior and religious beliefs of the average American have radically changed in just a few short decades. The elites have perfected social engineering to such an extent that they have now indoctrinated several generations of Americans into being anti-Christian, anti-American and Marxist in their belief systems.

Can´t really argue with that.

A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude."

Aldous Huxley

Mission pretty much accomplished.

[Corp]

So the article is an example of mass brainwashing right? Well I'm sure our atheist members will be interesting to know that they've been brainwashed by Satanists to help destroy freedom.

I wonder if the ancient Greek had to deal with these "theories".

"The government is secretly worshipping Cronus and they're going to help him overthrow Zeus! Then they're going to install a single world democracy! Oh noes!"

[+Liquid Gardens]

From Article:

In the United States, the primary evidence for the success of their mind control operation is the fact that the thinking, belief systems, morality, behavior and religious beliefs of the average American have radically changed in just a few short decades. The elites have perfected social engineering to such an extent that they have now indoctrinated several generations of Americans into being anti-Christian, anti-American and Marxist in their belief systems.

Can´t really argue with that.

Actually you can really argue with that. Define what 'radically changed' entails. A few short decades takes us back to the early 80's. I would argue that there was a much more drastic change in thinking, belief systems, morality and behavior from the 50's compared to the 60's/early 70's than any decade after. I'm not sure how you differentiate 'mind control' from 'people reaching conclusions that I disagree with', and 'mind control' sounds a little out-there anyway.

[rashore]

I always thought satanist and luciferian were two different things?

[Insaniac]

I always thought satanist and luciferian were two different things?

Not sure, although from what I understand, Lucifer the fallen Angel altered his name to 'Satan.' In Heaven he was known as Lucifer, on Earth, Satan.

Could be one and the same with Satanist's and Luciferian's. The only cult I'm really familiar with is the Illuminati, but I don't know everything about them.

[WoIverine]

Theoretically, the pathway to a socialist dictatorship is no longer bloody revolution.

Mind control is far more effective in destroying Christianity and establishing a totalitarian state.

The science of mind control is now capable of mass brainwashing.

By Paul McGuire

December 10, 2012

NewsWithViews.com

There exists a secretive Satanic elite, that consists of perhaps twelve men at the very top, who rule the world through banking and international finance. Publicly these men pretend to be humanists, but secretly they have to chosen to worship Lucifer. They are now in the process of the final take over, where they will bring in a one world government and one world economic system, beginning as early as 2018. Their primary means of achieving this goal is through control of the economy and through scientific mind control.

In the United States, the primary evidence for the success of their mind control operation is the fact that the thinking, belief systems, morality, behavior and religious beliefs of the average American have radically changed in just a few short decades. The elites have perfected social engineering to such an extent that they have now indoctrinated several generations of Americans into being anti-Christian, anti-American and Marxist in their belief systems.

Read more

-=-=-

In this article Paul McGuire "hits the highlights" of many key conspiracies for control of Mankind.

Please discuss any of the points raised, or add your own thoughts.

Quetzalcoatl's (serpent god) return sounds a lot like the "second war in heaven" prophesied with Satan being cast down to Earth again...if you believe in all of that.

Edited December 11, 2012 by WoIverine

[jugoso]

Actually you can really argue with that. Define what 'radically changed' entails. A few short decades takes us back to the early 80's. I would argue that there was a much more drastic change in thinking, belief systems, morality and behavior from the 50's compared to the 60's/early 70's than any decade after. I'm not sure how you differentiate 'mind control' from 'people reaching conclusions that I disagree with', and 'mind control' sounds a little out-there anyway.

I think our definition of "a few" is different. I was referring to the 60´s & 70´s. The 50's may have been the start of this "radical change" but I think it became more widespread in the 60´s. Would you not agree that there has been a dramatic change in morality, belief systems and behaviour since that time? If you don´t understand how mind control works, I suggest watching "Manufacture of Consent" or "Century of Self" (part II if you don´t have time for all) to see how easily we can be manipulated and influenced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIRJ-Xi9JXY.

[Babe Ruth]

From Article:

In the United States, the primary evidence for the success of their mind control operation is the fact that the thinking, belief systems, morality, behavior and religious beliefs of the average American have radically changed in just a few short decades. The elites have perfected social engineering to such an extent that they have now indoctrinated several generations of Americans into being anti-Christian, anti-American and Marxist in their belief systems.

Can´t really argue with that.

A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude."

Aldous Huxley

Mission pretty much accomplished.

Roger that!

As Dresden James put it, "The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves."

[JGirl]

heavy sigh

[Corp]

I think our definition of "a few" is different. I was referring to the 60´s & 70´s. The 50's may have been the start of this "radical change" but I think it became more widespread in the 60´s. Would you not agree that there has been a dramatic change in morality, belief systems and behaviour since that time? If you don´t understand how mind control works, I suggest watching "Manufacture of Consent" or "Century of Self" (part II if you don´t have time for all) to see how easily we can be manipulated and influenced.

Changes in society and culture have happened throughout history. Doesn't mean there's any brainwashing or some evil plot involved. It just means society has changed. If it's happening quicker than in the past then that's due to modern technology allowing the free flow of ideas and lively debate between different worldviews.

[+Liquid Gardens]

I think our definition of "a few" is different. I was referring to the 60´s & 70´s. The 50's may have been the start of this "radical change" but I think it became more widespread in the 60´s. Would you not agree that there has been a dramatic change in morality, belief systems and behaviour since that time? If you don´t understand how mind control works, I suggest watching "Manufacture of Consent" or "Century of Self" (part II if you don´t have time for all) to see how easily we can be manipulated and influenced.

Cool, fair enough on the 'few', sounds like we're talking about the same time period then. But Corp has it right, there have been dramatic changes throughout just the history of the relatively young US. The 60s were a big change obviously as far as all the qualities you've mentioned, but there are several huge historical changes, and I don't know that the 60s compares as far as overall 'change' to things like the Civil War and the Great Depression. Since the evidence of mind control being provided was the fact that dramatic changes have happened recently, but there are many other times where dramatic changes have also occurred, it doesn't seem like these 'dramatic changes' are necessarily indicative of mind control then. Unless the changes from the Civil War, Depression, etc, also were the result of mind control.

I think the definition we actually disagree on is 'mind control'. I don't consider 'influence' to be mind control, otherwise all advertising is. I think Manchurian Candidate when I hear 'mind control'; I only watched the video you linked to about Betty Crocker, I didn't watch the others, but I don't consider people who make choices with full consent to be under 'mind control'.

[jugoso]

Changes in society and culture have happened throughout history. Doesn't mean there's any brainwashing or some evil plot involved. It just means society has changed. If it's happening quicker than in the past then that's due to modern technology allowing the free flow of ideas and lively debate between different worldviews.

Brainwashing may be a little strong but there is certainly a lot of manipulation that occurs that is intentional. Public opinion, values and morality can be subtly modified over a long period of time and I believe this to be happening. I don´t agree with the author of the OP and I´m not saying there is an evil plot run by Satanists. However those that control the means of manipulation seem to have perfected the technique of manipulation and it seems their interests are self-serving and based on greed and power. I think a great example of how public opinion can be overtly changed is the US opinion about going to war with Kuwait. Nobody gave a sh** until the PR firms got involved and invented the “incubator story” . This is a good read if you have a few minutes

http://ics-www.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.cfm?outfit=pmt&folder=30&paper=71

I think the example I gave in my previous post shows quite clearly how this can happen on an unconscious level.

Cool, fair enough on the 'few', sounds like we're talking about the same time period then. But Corp has it right, there have been dramatic changes throughout just the history of the relatively young US. The 60s were a big change obviously as far as all the qualities you've mentioned, but there are several huge historical changes, and I don't know that the 60s compares as far as overall 'change' to things like the Civil War and the Great Depression. Since the evidence of mind control being provided was the fact that dramatic changes have happened recently, but there are many other times where dramatic changes have also occurred, it doesn't seem like these 'dramatic changes' are necessarily indicative of mind control then. Unless the changes from the Civil War, Depression, etc, also were the result of mind control.

I think the definition we actually disagree on is 'mind control'. I don't consider 'influence' to be mind control, otherwise all advertising is. I think Manchurian Candidate when I hear 'mind control'; I only watched the video you linked to about Betty Crocker, I didn't watch the others, but I don't consider people who make choices with full consent to be under 'mind control'.

I think you are right that we disagree on our definition of mind control. I think that if people are using proven techniques to influence and manipulate you to think or act a certain way then that is a form of mind-control.

[+Liquid Gardens]

I think you are right that we disagree on our definition of mind control. I think that if people are using proven techniques to influence and manipulate you to think or act a certain way then that is a form of mind-control.

Yes, I agree, we are using very different definitions. Advertising, parenting, most education all seem to fit your definition, and I guess I'm not seeing the 'control' part in any of that. But English is nothing if not flexible, thanks for the clarification!

[Rlyeh]

From Article:

In the United States, the primary evidence for the success of their mind control operation is the fact that the thinking, belief systems, morality, behavior and religious beliefs of the average American have radically changed in just a few short decades. The elites have perfected social engineering to such an extent that they have now indoctrinated several generations of Americans into being anti-Christian, anti-American and Marxist in their belief systems.

Can´t really argue with that.

Less Christians = mind control.

I think you are right that we disagree on our definition of mind control. I think that if people are using proven techniques to influence and manipulate you to think or act a certain way then that is a form of mind-control.

Like education.

[Corp]

I think you are right that we disagree on our definition of mind control. I think that if people are using proven techniques to influence and manipulate you to think or act a certain way then that is a form of mind-control.

Using that definition every single people throughout history has been subject to mind-control. After all raising children can be seen as mind control. So I think it's a bit too broad for this situation.

[jugoso]

Yes, I agree, we are using very different definitions. Advertising, parenting, most education all seem to fit your definition, and I guess I'm not seeing the 'control' part in any of that. But English is nothing if not flexible, thanks for the clarification!

Using that definition every single people throughout history has been subject to mind-control. After all raising children can be seen as mind control. So I think it's a bit too broad for this situation.

Yes, I agree although not to the same extent that we are subjected to them over the last few decades.

I can´t think of any greater influence on the development of a young mind than their parents. Children are little sponges who lack the ability to think critically. Therefore they inevitably internalize their parents belief system. Jehovah Witness parents will raise kids with the same values and belief system. They may reject them later on in life but they still carry them around. If that´s not control, then I don´t know what is.

The education system is another way that children internalize the values and beliefs of their society and much of this happens before they have the ability to think critically. I agree with Noam on this one that the education system is one of indoctrination of the young.

With respect to the media, there is no question in my mind that it is controlled and the parameters for discussion and new ideas are fairly well defined. Mainstream media doesn´t provide much air time for those who think in radically different ways. Neither does our political system for that matter. If you are trying to convince me that the US is a democracy because they have a choice between two candidates, I would reply that the similarities between the two far outweigh the differences and they both serve the same master.

As far as advertising goes, we have been studied to such an extent that they know exactly what note to hit to get the desired response they want. And what they want is for you to be a constant good little consumer. Again, I will suggest watching this clip if you have the time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkvuZ-0OP4w

The programme explores how those in power in post-war America used Freud's ideas about the unconscious mind to try and control the masses