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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:15 PM

www.dailymail.co.uk said:

It is one of the greatest mysteries of the deep, and its legend has outfoxed score of investigators over the generations.

Stories, pictures and rumors about a monster living below the surface of Scotland's deepest loch go back for decades.

But it is now hoped this grainy image of a long ‘serpent-like creature’ may finally unlock the mystery of the Loch Ness Monster.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

After reading this article, I am stumped how these so called experts have been able to say "But excited Loch Ness monster experts have ruled out the ‘sighting’ being  any other fish, seal or wood debris and believe it is proof of an  unknown creature in the Loch."

You can't make a claim like this without having the ability to provide a reason. Just another group of fanatical "experts" whom so desperately want their evidence to be true they throw out amazing claims without having evidence or research to back it up. Luckily the Dr. Simon Boxall from the National Oceanography Center was able to clarify this. It's simply zooplankton. :yes:


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:38 PM

Sonar hits are not proof of anything. Sonar like this can ping off of anything. School of fish, large fish, log, any number of things can send a signal such as this back to the operator. It may not even be anything alive. Some sonars if not operated properly can send back pings from changes in water density and temperature that would look like a solid object. It is proof that the sonar showed something on the screen. Thats it.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:35 PM

Why are they trying to pass this off as "new"?  It's from last September.

http://lochnessmyste...ar-contact.html

This thing could be anything - school of fish, false return off of a thermocline, clump of weeds, etc.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:05 AM

People, yes all of us.....


Read a entire article before posting comments, please :)

Not saying no one did, but it is pretty dang clear at the end of the article....

The Marine Biologists explain exactly what this is.........

And I am not telling, go read it :)

I think people have a hard time proving any factual basis for their beliefs so they get defensive and they take any question as a direct challenge instead of just giving it some thought.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:53 AM

Not only is it old......and obviously unnews worthy.......but if you read it you see the biologist explains what the ping was, it's fricking algae. Then they go on to explain how the sonar actually works, it's no a snapshot, it's a series of echo returns made as the boat pass over.

They never put the reasons in until the end of the article so everyone can read the eye grabbing part then allow their knee to jerk. Got to read it all guys, and sometimes between the lines as well.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:19 AM

View Postkeninsc, on 21 April 2012 - 12:53 AM, said:

Not only is it old......and obviously unnews worthy.......but if you read it you see the biologist explains what the ping was, it's fricking algae. Then they go on to explain how the sonar actually works, it's no a snapshot, it's a series of echo returns made as the boat pass over.

They never put the reasons in until the end of the article so everyone can read the eye grabbing part then allow their knee to jerk. Got to read it all guys, and sometimes between the lines as well.



I said same thing on reply before....

I think people have a hard time proving any factual basis for their beliefs so they get defensive and they take any question as a direct challenge instead of just giving it some thought.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:45 AM

View PostSakari, on 21 April 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

I said same thing on reply before....
Maybe people should read the entire article AND the posts before commenting.  :)

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:58 AM

It still wont stop the nessie believers though. Specially the so called nessie experts, although how you can be an expert on somethng that does not exist is beyond me.
This is going to crop up time and again as ''evidence'' that the monster exists :wacko:

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:18 AM

View PostEnglishgent, on 21 April 2012 - 02:58 AM, said:

It still wont stop the nessie believers though. Specially the so called nessie experts, although how you can be an expert on somethng that does not exist is beyond me.
This is going to crop up time and again as ''evidence'' that the monster exists :wacko:

Are you telling me my Doctorate of Crypto I got online is somehow worthless? :cry:
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:12 AM

View PostQuiteContrary, on 21 April 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

Are you telling me my Doctorate of Crypto I got online is somehow worthless? :cry:

Ermmm,,,,,,,,,sorry lol :unsure2:

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:33 AM

I think I've got it figured out.  To be an "expert" in Cryptozoology all you really have to do is tweek your thinking so that all the things we don't know about the world can be substituted when there is a lack of evidence for the megafauna you are championing.  For example "scientists haven't explored all the ocean, so a giant creature could be out there."  Or  "the pacific northwest is densely forested and nobody has explored all of it, so there are plenty of places the bigfoots can hide."  

When you can convince yourself that all the stuff we don't know is the reason that cryptids exist, then you are on your way to becoming the crypto-expert you always dreamed of being.  

For some reason its a feat of mental contortionism that my brain could once perform but is no longer able to.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 10:29 AM

View PostRafterman, on 20 April 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

Why are they trying to pass this off as "new"?  It's from last September.

http://lochnessmyste...ar-contact.html

That's something you need to ask the media. If you Google you'll find a lot of news sites are currently running this story.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

I believe it could well be Nessie.  Let's hope so.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:03 AM

I believe the DM story is missing some of the witness testimony...

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After observing the sonar image for a time, Mr Atkinson noted a "roiling and disturbance" in the Loch. Seconds later a massive, grey head on a long neck appeared over his boat and asked Mr Atkinson "could he spare tree-fiddy".

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