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[Harte]

Tiggs, on 04 October 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

How many people reading this thread do you think believe that presidential terms are only a year long?

Good point.

Seems more like 12 or 15 with the current one.

Harte

[DieChecker]

Jeremiah65, on 05 October 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

I actually do.... .  I watch Antiques Roadshow, Nova and a few other history type shows.  A lot of times they have painting, woodcarving and  woodworking...which, as nerdy as it sounds ... I do watch.

I liked it better when they still broadcasted Doctor Who.

How much of the funding comes from the FedGov? Everytime I watch it they say, "Programing funded by people like You.". I've yet to hear them thank the FedGov for their support. Like Planned Parenthood, I believe that non-public donations from those who really want it could alone make it happen.

Edited by DieChecker, 07 October 2012 - 11:58 PM.

[ninjadude]

It's a VERY small amount. For Mittens to say that somehow has some effect on the budget is beyond ridiculous.

[Jeremiah65]

I heard a number but I have not "fact checked it"...I heard it's like 130 million a year.

Not very much in comparison to the cost of 1 tomahawk missile (considering in Libya we were firing of about 60 of those a day)....1 Tomahawk = approx 800,000 to 1 million each.  That = 60 million a day in missiles....two to 4 days of bombing someone into the stone age pays for a year of PBS TV....who'd a thunk it

Edited by Jeremiah65, 08 October 2012 - 01:43 AM.

[DieChecker]

ninjadude, on 08 October 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

It's a VERY small amount. For Mittens to say that somehow has some effect on the budget is beyond ridiculous.

Then is it really going to shut down PBS if the FedGov ends that financing. The Media makes it sound like Bert and Ernie are going to have to hit the street.

Edit: Small to the FedGov or to PBS??

Edit, Edit: Wiki says it is about 15 to 20 percent of their budget. I can see that it would make little dent in the Deficit, and would make a bigger impact on PBS, so maybe a cutback would be in order, rather then a sessation of funding. Cutbacks should be occuring everywhere in government, and probably are. You hear that gov hiring is down every quarter, which is as it should be IMHO.

Edited by DieChecker, 08 October 2012 - 03:23 AM.

[DieChecker]

Jeremiah65, on 08 October 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

I heard a number but I have not "fact checked it"...I heard it's like 130 million a year.

Not very much in comparison to the cost of 1 tomahawk missile (considering in Libya we were firing of about 60 of those a day)....1 Tomahawk = approx 800,000 to 1 million each.  That = 60 million a day in missiles....two to 4 days of bombing someone into the stone age pays for a year of PBS TV....who'd a thunk it

Business decisions can be hard....

In my work area we have about 40 people on 4 shifts, and we got a 3% raise this year, to give all those people a 5% raise would have cost about 50,000 dollars, and that would double moral and the workers attitudes, but they don't/won't/didn't.... Yet, at the same time, we are installing many new machines and upgrading others that cost a half million per upgrade and around 2 million for a new machine. So tens of millions of dollars of new machines and parts are being installed, but there is no budget for 50k to bring happyness to the employees. It is only a business decision. And some are hard to make. Pennys apparently do count.

Edited by DieChecker, 08 October 2012 - 03:32 AM.

[Tiggs]

DieChecker, on 08 October 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

You hear that gov hiring is down every quarter, which is as it should be IMHO.

Why?

[DieChecker]

Tiggs, on 08 October 2012 - 05:14 AM, said:

Why?

Because, IMHO, and with the data I've seen, there was real wastage within local, city, state and federal offices in the near past. Just as I saw inside Intel in the last 4 or 5 years, areas that are overpopulated are being trimmed down and those individuals who are not value added are being moved somewhere else or let go.

Obviously there are areas that don't need to be cut deeply, but if you have 25 city librarians and 20 can do the work, do you really need those other 5? Or if you can close the library an hour earlier and save money, then isn't it better to do so and help whatever budget then to simply run a deficit, and/or have to borrow or put out new bonds? True, if you lay off those 5 librarians you are simply moving their pay from local/city to Federal (Unemployment). But then eventually they will either move into the Private sector, or fall off the Rolls. (Or perhaps even get back into government in some other location.)

When the economy turns around more, then sure, hire up extra workers and implement new projects. But if your local community is still in Recession or has a very slow Recovery, then spending less (letting go employees) is what has to happen.

Edited by DieChecker, 08 October 2012 - 06:00 AM.

[Tiggs]

DieChecker, on 08 October 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

When the economy turns around more, then sure, hire up extra workers and implement new projects. But if your local community is still in Recession or has a very slow Recovery, then spending less (letting go employees) is what has to happen.

Then that's not every quarter, is it?

[ninjadude]

DieChecker, on 08 October 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

Business decisions can be hard....

true. But government is NOT a business!