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[B Jenkins]

TheLastLazyGun, on 18 November 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

I don't care.  Israel should do all it can to defend itself against aggression.

Nobody has mentioned the fact that this Hamas guy would still be alive now had Hamas not started firing rockets onto Israel.

Operation Litani?

Operation Peace In Galilee?

Operation Iron Mind?

Sabra and Shatilla massacres?

Operation Cast Lead?

What about Yitzhak Rabin ordering the soldiers to "break their bones" during the First Palestinian Intifada (Uprising) that began in 1987? This footage was caught and shot by a US film crew reporting on the Intifada.

[B Jenkins]

[MichaelW]

Coffey, on 26 November 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

Israel: contumely involved in all modern wars

Since when was Israel involved in Afghanistan?

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Yeah... OK Israeli government isn't a religious extremist problem is it... (sarcasm)

I hardly think Israel is alone in any country in the world in terms of extremists in its government.

Can you actually post something that doesn't look like the ramblings of a mental patient Coffey? Do you want to portray yourself as someone who doesn't have the slightest clue what they are talking about?

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Ambush Bug, on 26 November 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

Operation Litani?

Operation Peace In Galilee?

Operation Iron Mind?

Sabra and Shatilla massacres?

Operation Cast Lead?

What about Yitzhak Rabin ordering the soldiers to "break their bones" during the First Palestinian Intifada (Uprising) that began in 1987? This footage was caught and shot by a US film crew reporting on the Intifada.

What about peace?  What about trying to do the ONLY thing that would procure it, which is to forgive past sins and move forward in a spirit of compromise between the two?  Neither side seems willing to do this.  If Israel is forced to concede to all of the Palestinian demands then Israel would shortly cease to exist.  If the Palestinians gave Israel all it feels it is due then no Palestinians would live closer than the Saudi Arabian peninsula.  And it has been that way since Israel accepted the partition and the Arabs refused to even consider it.  And I suspect it will continue that way until one side or the other TAKES all the land forcibly at some point in the future.  It is very interesting (and heartening) to me that the Bible states that "Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone" in the last days and here we are.  Can you imagine a more pressing, central issue on the world stage?  It seems that all other potentially global conflagrations are tied to this one small place in the M.E.  But hey, the Bible is only a book of fairy stories.

[Coffey]

MichaelW, on 26 November 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

Since when was Israel involved in Afghanistan?

It isn't directly by military means, but who runs the American banks?

MichaelW, on 26 November 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

I hardly think Israel is alone in any country in the world in terms of extremists in its government.

Can you actually post something that doesn't look like the ramblings of a mental patient Coffey? Do you want to portray yourself as someone who doesn't have the slightest clue what they are talking about?

It's not alone at all, I never said that. I was comparing Israel to Iran and how Iran is looked at as a problem, when the real problem is Israel. I was proving how a country run being prosecuted by Israel for being involved with Extremists is absolutely hypocritical. That is my point. Also Israel has Nukes which makes it even more of a problem and they threaten to sue them like North Korea does and everyone bangs on about how much of a problem North Korea is when Israel is worse.

Israeli military go into Palestinian homes int he middle of the night and torture them and wreck their homes. I've seen all the videos showing this. If you don't think thta's a problem or wrong then you are the one who appears to be rambling like a mental patient.

[B Jenkins]

and then, on 26 November 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

What about peace?  What about trying to do the ONLY thing that would procure it, which is to forgive past sins and move forward in a spirit of compromise between the two?  Neither side seems willing to do this.  If Israel is forced to concede to all of the Palestinian demands then Israel would shortly cease to exist.  If the Palestinians gave Israel all it feels it is due then no Palestinians would live closer than the Saudi Arabian peninsula.  And it has been that way since Israel accepted the partition and the Arabs refused to even consider it.  And I suspect it will continue that way until one side or the other TAKES all the land forcibly at some point in the future.  It is very interesting (and heartening) to me that the Bible states that "Jerusalem will be a burdensome stone" in the last days and here we are.  Can you imagine a more pressing, central issue on the world stage?  It seems that all other potentially global conflagrations are tied to this one small place in the M.E.  But hey, the Bible is only a book of fairy stories.

True, I believe no Arab Palestinian wanted Israel to exist. The Arabs were willing to give the Jews an enclave or a subprovince upon which the Jews would freely immigrate. But not once were the indigeneous people and their opinions of a Jewish state ever considered. Simply put, the indigeneous peoples of Palestine never supported a Jewish state but they found out they had no say nor power in the matter. The State of Israel was forced upon Palestinians (that is a state of non-indigeneous peoples).

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Ambush Bug, on 27 November 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:

True, I believe no Arab Palestinian wanted Israel to exist. The Arabs were willing to give the Jews an enclave or a subprovince upon which the Jews would freely immigrate. But not once were the indigeneous people and their opinions of a Jewish state ever considered. Simply put, the indigeneous peoples of Palestine never supported a Jewish state but they found out they had no say nor power in the matter. The State of Israel was forced upon Palestinians (that is a state of non-indigeneous peoples).

Israel's claim to that land is greater than ANYONE else's.  God Himself gave it them.  Of course if one does not believe in God then it's a claim easily enough cast aside as irrelevant but history and future events will prove their title is true and enduring I believe.  In fact the very presence of the Jew on that land despite all this adversity is a proof from God that He IS sovereign still, IMO.  And they will not live on their land as dhimmi vassals.  They will possess all of it in time but it will be costly for them.

[B Jenkins]

and then, on 27 November 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:

Israel's claim to that land is greater than ANYONE else's.  God Himself gave it them.  Of course if one does not believe in God then it's a claim easily enough cast aside as irrelevant but history and future events will prove their title is true and enduring I believe.  In fact the very presence of the Jew on that land despite all this adversity is a proof from God that He IS sovereign still, IMO.  And they will not live on their land as dhimmi vassals.  They will possess all of it in time but it will be costly for them.

And one could say God kicked them out of the land twice before. So?

TWICE!

First the Babylonians then the Romans.

And these weren't secularist and atheistic Zionists either.

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Ambush Bug, on 27 November 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

And one could say God kicked them out of the land twice before. So?

TWICE!

First the Babylonians then the Romans.

And these weren't secularist and atheistic Zionists either.

Time will tell.

[WHO U KIDDIN]

MichaelW, on 26 November 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

I hardly think Israel is alone in any country in the world in terms of extremists in its government.

You're right extremists come in all shapes, sizes, and beliefs and infiltrate many levels of governments in nations through out the world...Islamic, Zionist, or Christian...It's the dangerous ideas that these extremists promote that wreck havoc for all human society.

We have allowed the madmen to run the asylum.

http://www.jpost.com....aspx?id=191782

[shaddow134]

WHO U KIDDIN, on 27 November 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

You're right extremists come in all shapes, sizes, and beliefs and infiltrate many levels of governments in nations through out the world...Islamic, Zionist, or Christian...It's the dangerous ideas that these extremists promote that wreck havoc for all human society.

We have allowed the madmen to run the asylum.

http://www.jpost.com....aspx?id=191782

Zionists are just as dangerous as any extremist Muslim organisations and their beliefs are a cancer that is spreading.These people are waging war in  the Middle East and using the US to finance it all.

[HavocWing]

WHO U KIDDIN, on 27 November 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

You're right extremists come in all shapes, sizes, and beliefs and infiltrate many levels of governments in nations through out the world...Islamic, Zionist, or Christian...It's the dangerous ideas that these extremists promote that wreck havoc for all human society.

We have allowed the madmen to run the asylum.

http://www.jpost.com....aspx?id=191782

Sounds like they are trying to subjugate the world.

And they wonder why people hate them.

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HavocWing, on 27 November 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Sounds like they are trying to subjugate the world.

And they wonder why people hate them.

Sounds like a quote from one obviously disturbed and hateful old man.  Attributing his feelings to everyone of his religion is a bit much, don't you think?

[HavocWing]

and then, on 27 November 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Sounds like a quote from one obviously disturbed and hateful old man.  Attributing his feelings to everyone of his religion is a bit much, don't you think?

Did you read the link?

[MichaelW]

Coffey, on 26 November 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

It isn't directly by military means, but who runs the American banks?

Americans. Unless of course you think there is some sort of worldwide Jewish conspiracy.

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Also Israel has Nukes which makes it even more of a problem and they threaten to sue them like North Korea does and everyone bangs on about how much of a problem North Korea is when Israel is worse.

Israel hasn't threatened anyone with their nuclear devices.

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Israeli military go into Palestinian homes int he middle of the night and torture them and wreck their homes.

Evidence?

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I've seen all the videos showing this. If you don't think thta's a problem or wrong then you are the one who appears to be rambling like a mental patient.

I'm not the one that takes everything I see on Youtube seriously. I'm not the one going around pretending there's some sort of worldwide Jewish conspiracy or something. ****, didn't you learn anything in history?