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#376    Ashotep

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

Besides that you had people trespassing on your property then getting snake bit or breaking a leg and they wanted to sue you for that too.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:47 AM

Bottom line:  You break into my house, you get shot.  The end.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:47 AM

In my opinion the home owner was 100% in the right. If someone were to come through my window at night or front door in the day time, doesn't matter when, I'm defending my kids and wife how ever I need to. I grew up around guns and they are 100% safe if you know how to handle them. People who believe that guns should be banned can go ahead and tell me again how nobody can get their hands on drugs since they are illegal as well. Banning guns would take them away from law abiding citizens to protect themselves and families from the not so law abiding citizens who will get them by other means.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:35 PM

The gangs will always have them.  Most criminals don't get them by legal means anyway.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:03 PM

View PostHilander, on 20 March 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

In the state of Missouri they have passed a law that if you get hurt while trespassing tough luck.  You were breaking the law so you can't sue.  This law passed a few years ago and stood up in court already.

This is how it should be in every state, it's common sense.  Home invaders/criminals should not be able to sue their victims as happens now and then.  That's just stupid.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:55 PM

This individual wasn't properly trained how to handle a gun and how to handle a situation like this. As for me, I would pull out the gun and pull it on the intruder. The gun alone would make them stop, then I would asses the situation to see if they got a gun or are they harmless individuals. If the intruder tries to reach for something, I would stop them and have an family member or friend retrieve it from them.

Edited by Uncle Sam, 21 March 2013 - 08:58 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostUncle Sam, on 21 March 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

This individual wasn't properly trained how to handle a gun and how to handle a situation like this. As for me, I would pull out the gun and pull it on the intruder. The gun alone would make them stop, then I would asses the situation to see if they got a gun or are they harmless individuals. If the intruder tries to reach for something, I would stop them and have an family member or friend retrieve it from them.

The gun didn't make him stop, even after the homeowner warned him and fired a warning shot.

You haven't read all of the articles have you?


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:35 AM

Some people are psychotic and aren't going to stop just because you point a gun at them.  If you aren't prepared to pull the trigger they might take it away from you and kill you with your own gun.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:50 AM

View PostMichelle, on 21 March 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

You haven't read all of the articles have you?


That seems to be common practice latley.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:20 PM

For all who still want to try and judge the man   http://www.foxnews.c...intcmp=trending

Looks like he knew how to aim the weapon, little do people know (probably from watching too many movies) being shot in the shoulder can be fatal, as evidenced in this instance. There is no 'safe' place to shoot someone, and to be honest, he let the kid get a lot further than he should have.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:39 PM

The kid was drunk, I doubt he knew what was going on. The fact that the houses may have been built the same, does not mean the furniture is the same, the kid did not notice any of this...because he was drunk.
Can`t see how the owner did not notice that the kid was drunk....maybe one little shove would have stopped him, after all the owner was standing on the top of the stairs.
But who really knows what really took  place there, apart from the sober person?

Edited by freetoroam, 22 March 2013 - 07:40 PM.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:04 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 22 March 2013 - 07:39 PM, said:

The kid was drunk, I doubt he knew what was going on. The fact that the houses may have been built the same, does not mean the furniture is the same, the kid did not notice any of this...because he was drunk.
Can`t see how the owner did not notice that the kid was drunk....maybe one little shove would have stopped him, after all the owner was standing on the top of the stairs.
But who really knows what really took  place there, apart from the sober person?

I'm sure he did know he was drunk by that point.. In my opinion, that makes a person that much more unpredictable and potentially more dangerous. I'm sure that particular opinion is also common among law enforcement.

Besides, with all the complaining about "He didn't need to shoot to kill him", the guy put a round in his shoulder, not center mass. Unfortunately for the adolescent, he didn't survive.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

If a warning shot doesn't stop them, then a bullet injury will. A well place injury in the leg will drop them to the ground. There is numerous ways to disabling someone without killing with a gun. Yes they will probably have a bullet wound and injury afterwards, but I won't have to kill someone. Pain is a good motivator in stopping someone.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:21 PM

A shot to the leg can easily kill, too.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

View Postgreen_dude777, on 22 March 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

For all who still want to try and judge the man   http://www.foxnews.c...intcmp=trending

Looks like he knew how to aim the weapon, little do people know (probably from watching too many movies) being shot in the shoulder can be fatal, as evidenced in this instance. There is no 'safe' place to shoot someone, and to be honest, he let the kid get a lot further than he should have.

Gee what do ya know a shot to the shoulder.....I know most of you anti gun people probably do not know this but that usually is not a kill shot!Guess the whole he shot to try and kill him he could have shot him in the leg or elsewhere just to maim him theory just got thrown out the damn window!Now i see the argument switches to he could have gave him a little shove  :o ...Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds  :lol:

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