isis-999 Posted July 1, 2005 #1 Share Posted July 1, 2005 what do you think about Robert Schoch theory's that the sphinx is much older than once thought, Schoch said it could even date back to pre-dynastic period! I look forward to what everyone thinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted July 1, 2005 #2 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Oddly enough, I've just gotten hold of Schoch's book Voyages of the Pyramid Builders which contains a detailed appendix about the age of the sphinx. I do think it dates to pre dynastic times, and was repaired and repainted by the Egyptians. Exactly who originally carved it, and when, I'm not yet sure. Though I do know someone who thinks it was the Sumerians and certainly a date of 3,500bce or so might be sufficent to account for the water erosion features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted July 1, 2005 #3 Share Posted July 1, 2005 btw any one know where I can get detailed meteorological data for the Giza plateau dating back to 4,000bce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isis-999 Posted July 1, 2005 Author #4 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Oddly enough, I've just gotten hold of Schoch's book Voyages of the Pyramid Builders which contains a detailed appendix about the age of the sphinx. I do think it dates to pre dynastic times, and was repaired and repainted by the Egyptians. Exactly who originally carved it, and when, I'm not yet sure. Though I do know someone who thinks it was the Sumerians and certainly a date of 3,500bce or so might be sufficent to account for the water erosion features. 708962[/snapback] Anyone we all might know! ha!ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob23 Posted July 1, 2005 #5 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I dont know to much about his theory could you fill me in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 1, 2005 #6 Share Posted July 1, 2005 lol ok wanna step outside ? In short the Sphinx has signs of rainwater erosion on its top surfaces. Giza was last wet in 7000-3500bce egypt was founded in 3100bce So the sphinx predates the egyptian culture and therefore isn't itself egyptian. The egyptians themselves claim they dug it up and remodelled it on their pharoah Khufu and there is a hieroglyph tablet saying that attached to the front of the sphinx in 2500bce. Orthodox Egyptologists of course say that Khufu built all of it. Even though he says he didn't and lets face it he should bloody well know. So the sphinx with its rainwater eroded back must be from at the very least 3500bce and at the oldest about 4500bce otherwise the damage would be worse. There was of course a high civilisation of Master masons living right next door to egypt at the right time (from 5000bce to 2000bce) and with the motivation to build the sphinx which in fact is an animal from their mythology. But that would be far too logical an answer right ? and if it panned out it may lead to the Sphinx being dismantled and moved to downtown Baghad in the land of its Genesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantis Rises Posted July 2, 2005 #7 Share Posted July 2, 2005 More like 10,500 BCE according to the Sleeping Phophet Edgar Cayce, and the water erosion of the Sphinx's body. Some claim the Sphinx originally had the head of a lion, which would correspond to many statues of lions in eygptian culture. It was later craved another head and designed to resemble a Pharaoh, painted and restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isis-999 Posted July 2, 2005 Author #8 Share Posted July 2, 2005 (edited) that is true but Cayce also thought he was RA -TA in his last life i do not but much face value in any thing Cayce believed, not one thing of his has ever really been proven. Edited July 2, 2005 by isis-999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 3, 2005 #9 Share Posted July 3, 2005 http://robertschoch.net/Forum/index.php?showtopic=348 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfaman Posted July 4, 2005 #10 Share Posted July 4, 2005 I think it has already been proved that it is far older than the other structures at Giza. I'm sure it was a Dutch Geologist, and he said they could date to as far back as 10,000b.c., but whether he was just saying that to correspond with Graham Hancock I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuD Posted July 4, 2005 #11 Share Posted July 4, 2005 (edited) Paranormal Investigator Group: Member Posts: 446 Joined: 18-March 05 From: The other side Member No.: 16382 Country: England Gender: Male And all the fools sailed away....... Oddly enough, I've just gotten hold of Schoch's book Voyages of the Pyramid Builders which contains a detailed appendix about the age of the sphinx. I do think it dates to pre dynastic times, and was repaired and repainted by the Egyptians. Exactly who originally carved it, and when, I'm not yet sure. Though I do know someone who thinks it was the Sumerians and certainly a date of 3,500bce or so might be sufficent to account for the water erosion features. -------------------- Andy wasnt there a sumerian diety half lion and half man? if i remember correctly this maybe true. or at least a civilization that was a fore runner (or however you spell it) for the sumerians Edited July 4, 2005 by PuD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #12 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Paranormal Investigator Group: Member Posts: 446 Joined: 18-March 05 From: The other side Member No.: 16382 Country: England Gender: Male And all the fools sailed away....... Oddly enough, I've just gotten hold of Schoch's book Voyages of the Pyramid Builders which contains a detailed appendix about the age of the sphinx. I do think it dates to pre dynastic times, and was repaired and repainted by the Egyptians. Exactly who originally carved it, and when, I'm not yet sure. Though I do know someone who thinks it was the Sumerians and certainly a date of 3,500bce or so might be sufficent to account for the water erosion features. -------------------- Andy wasnt there a sumerian diety half lion and half man? if i remember correctly this maybe true. or at least a civilization that was a fore runner (or however you spell it) for the sumerians 713228[/snapback] No. There was no Sphinx god in Sumeria The god Enlil's animal was the sphinx, as a living image of him it bore his bearded face. The Sumerian civilisation began in 5000bce The Egyptian civilisation began in 3200bce And yet. Egypt is regarded as the higher culture. seems a bit silly if you ask me when the sumerians were building these 2000 years before the Egyptians were building these In other words dating the sphinx to before the egyptian civilisation does not make it an impossible sculpture. There was a high civilisation of masons in the area from 5000bce onwards. Robert Schoch's latest date agrees with that scenario. Zahi Hawass doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfaman Posted July 4, 2005 #13 Share Posted July 4, 2005 (edited) I bet aliens helped the sumerians build that temple Seriously though thats an impressive building, what is it called Edited July 4, 2005 by Alfaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #14 Share Posted July 4, 2005 I bet aliens helped the sumerians build that temple Seriously though thats an impressive building, what is it called 713309[/snapback] Its a Ziggurat Heres one that still survives today despite the fact that it was bombed by the Americans, accidentally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyKade Posted July 4, 2005 #15 Share Posted July 4, 2005 oh yeh "accidently" . looks amazing though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #16 Share Posted July 4, 2005 oh yeh "accidently" . looks amazing though! 713319[/snapback] http://www.geocities.com/dolph322000/buildings.html more info on Ancient world buildings here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyKade Posted July 4, 2005 #17 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Ziggurat og Ur just looks ultra cool, and the pyramid of the magician is looks sweet as pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #18 Share Posted July 4, 2005 (edited) Ziggurat og Ur just looks ultra cool, and the pyramid of the magician is looks sweet as pie 713338[/snapback] We got ancient structures from before 3000 bc in England as well you know buddy Some just as impressive as anything at Giza or the Meso's Edited July 4, 2005 by marduk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyKade Posted July 4, 2005 #19 Share Posted July 4, 2005 i know. i really should go visit. i cant make the excuse that i dont have money for a flight can i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #20 Share Posted July 4, 2005 i know. i really should go visit. i cant make the excuse that i dont have money for a flight can i 713387[/snapback] well if you do don't forget to visit white horse hill, and uffington castle, and dragon hill, and avebury circle, and stonehenge, which were all built by the same race of people in a 40 mile north south line from salisbury plain in wiltshire to uffington in oxfordshire. They all date from 3200bce. this stone called the swindon stone is part of the avebury circle and it weighs more than any block on the giza plateau. and it was bought more than 300 miles. That means that the technology used to move it was 700 years in advance of anything seen in egypt. which didn't exist when it was placed in the circle. Make sure you take sandwhiches and plenty to drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyKade Posted July 4, 2005 #21 Share Posted July 4, 2005 what about the giant chalk man. forgot him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #22 Share Posted July 4, 2005 what about the giant chalk man. forgot him 713421[/snapback] He's not in that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreyKade Posted July 4, 2005 #23 Share Posted July 4, 2005 duh i know that but still be cool to go see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marduk Posted July 4, 2005 #24 Share Posted July 4, 2005 duh i know that but still be cool to go see it 713425[/snapback] http://www.geocities.com/dolph322000/figures.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokejaguar Posted July 4, 2005 #25 Share Posted July 4, 2005 The 10,500 bce date make the most sense in that it correlates perfectly with the alinement of the constellation of Leo on the southern horizon..The sphinx faces the constellation as it rises.Marking the period of influence of Leo.-usdi Agaluga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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