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The Queen should think about retiring

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#16    supervike

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:59 PM

I'm not entirely sure why you UKers put up with the monarchy.

But, as an American, maybe it's a cultural thing.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:02 PM

View Postsupervike, on 24 March 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

I'm not entirely sure why you UKers put up with the monarchy.

But, as an American, maybe it's a cultural thing.

Probably is since we don't believe in monarchy or bow down to a crown. [Shrugs]


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:08 PM

View Postsupervike, on 24 March 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

I'm not entirely sure why you UKers put up with the monarchy.

But, as an American, maybe it's a cultural thing.
The Queen is fine, if we ever get Charles and he starts pushing homeopathy over conventional medicine and organic farming and talking to plants and whatever else, then I will be at the forefront of the revolution! *waves pitchfork heartily*

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:25 PM

I don't care as long as one of them give me my Knighthood..  Posted Image

Although I like Harry, he is a lad is that one.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:32 PM

I think the Queen should name her successor as William. Skip Charles all together.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 24 March 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

I think she should retire and take the rest of the family with her.No need for a royal family,time for the UK to catch up with the modern world.Read somewhere last year that it took 65 mil of taxpayers dollars to keep this family up to their standards,about time they go out and get real jobs if they choose to live this way.....Pay for it out of their own pockets.

It costs just 65p, or thereabouts, per person per year for the monarchy.  That's all.

Getting rid of the monarchy for a republic will not save you money.  It'll be a lot more expensive.  Obama's Air Force One jet alone costs more annually that the entire British monarchy does.

But the British monarchy is secure for a least another 100-150 years.  The British people just don't want a republic.  Although you can't blame them, because look what happened the last time Britain experimented with republicanism.

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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 24 March 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

I think she should retire and take the rest of the family with her.No need for a royal family,time for the UK to catch up with the modern world.Read somewhere last year that it took 65 mil of taxpayers dollars to keep this family up to their standards,about time they go out and get real jobs if they choose to live this way.....Pay for it out of their own pockets.
Now why would I have any reason to visit London if the Royals no longer existed?Personally I think every country should have at least two monarchs, a king and a queen.  Adds class.  I'm tired of this classless society business.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 24 March 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

Yeah, after all it's not as if technically she owns the country.

The Queen is, by a considerable distance, the world's biggest landowner.

She owns about 6.6 BILLION acres of land.  That's because, for all intents and purposes, she owns all of the land of the 16 countries of which she is Head of State, including the world's second-biggest country, Canada.

The world's next largest landowner is the Russian state, which owns just over 4.2 billion acres.

The value of the Queen's land holding is £17.6 TRILLION (US$33 trillion), which technically makes her the richest person on Earth.

Edited by TheLastLazyGun, 25 March 2013 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

William is a little untested as yet.  I think they should change the succession law and have Parliament select the next monarch from among the members of the royal family -- say from among a list of the fifty in line to the succession.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 24 March 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Queen Elizabeth II is not going to abdicate.

On 21st April 1947 the then Princess Elizabeth made a 21st-birthday speech in which she vowed to serve her country for her whole life.

It was quite a lengthy speech but towards the end of it she said this:

I declare before you all that my whole life, whether it be long or short, shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong.

But I shall not have strength to carry out this resolution alone unless you join in it with me, as I now invite you to do: I know that your support will be unfailingly given. God help me to make good my vow, and God bless all of you who are willing to share in it.


Elizabeth II vowed to serve her country until the day she dies.  She will not break that promise.
She vowed to serve her country her whole life, she did not vow to die on the throne.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 25 March 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

The Queen is, by a considerable distance, the world's biggest landowner.

She owns about 6.6 BILLION acres of land.  That's because, for all intents and purposes, she owns all of the land of the 16 countries of which she is Head of State, including the world's second-biggest country, Canada.

The world's next largest landowner is the Russian state, which owns just over 4.2 billion acres.

The value of the Queen's land holding is £17.6 TRILLION (US$33 trillion), which technically makes her the richest person on Earth.
And yet she still takes 65 pnds per yer per subject to support her life style.  You sound like the masochist begging to be spanked more and harder.  puke.

Edited by OverSword, 25 March 2013 - 02:58 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

Her Majesty probably used the first Queen Elizabeth ;daughter of Henry the Eigth and Anne Boleyn as her role model in regards to her dedication to her people.
Nothing wrong with that. There have been terrible monarchs in history,and some who were great and even some who are saints;like St. Hedwig of Silsiea her niece St.Elizabeth of Hungary;St.Louis of France;St.Ferdinand; St.Wenceslaus and others. A lot of people would prefer William as king to his father prince Charles.
Hey having a democracy is n't any picnic.just look at the idiots we have in Congress who don't listen to John Q.Public and take bribes and anything else the lobbyist hand out to them and so on.They cost the public too with all their trips etc.at the tax payers expense.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 03:58 PM

Um, last time I looked Britain was a democracy too.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:11 PM

View PostOverSword, on 25 March 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

And yet she still takes 65 pnds per yer per subject to support her life style.  You sound like the masochist begging to be spanked more and harder.  puke.

As it happens - she puts more money into the government treasury than she takes out of it.

Cost of the Queen is £32.3 million. The income from the Crown Estate, which goes directly to the government treasury, is £230.9 million.

Currently, the arrangement is transitioning, and, in future, the Queen will just take 15% of the income from the Crown Estate directly.


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:15 PM

Royalty should be expensive; they are the symbol of the nation.  Palaces and carriages and crown jewels and big weddings and parades and royal guards and pagentry and command performances and royal tours and formal parties for visiting government dignitaries.  That stuff costs money and should be done right.  In the end it is worth it.





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