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#31    Tau Ceti Xeta

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

View Postkwin, on 28 July 2013 - 09:24 AM, said:

I thought that the Roswell incident burst out because honest people assumed that this would be an extremely important, patriotic duty. It would be proof positive of UFO's. Surprise!  

The way it was smothered, also made me think that this might not have been the military's first rodeo. They had some kind of a game plan already together. Remember, there were the foo fighters in WWII and the K Arnold sighting was just two weeks earlier, amongst others. Have to wonder how long this was a contingency?

You have to think that witnesses were absolutely shocked by the turn of events.  One moment, playing an important part in American history, the next being threatened by your 'team mates'. There is no doubt that the threats were taken quite seriously. It is still a big desert out there.

What possible motive could persuade these witnesses to fight a 'coverup' till the day they die?

Eisenhower was right. . . . . and there just are too many witnesses

Their contingency plan worked. They just needed a few days to get their act together.

By then people of Roswell had already played around with the wreckage from the debris field. ( Brazel Ranch )


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:37 PM

View PostRafterman, on 28 July 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

Tau, the very link you posted says your interpretation of the story is a bunch of hogwash.

Hogwash?  I thought for sure that the Nazi U-Boats were sinking half of our ships going to Great Britain.

Hmmm.....

Trying to rewrite history?

- Desperate times breed desperate actions -

We need to find a way to prevent the U- Boat commanders from seeing our valuable cargo ships.

Some U Boat commanders are surfacing and shooting the survivors in the water.  We have to do something

to prevent this. Question of the day: Was Albert Einstein at Princeton University July 1943 ?

1) Yes
2) No

Edited by Tau Ceti Xeta, 29 July 2013 - 01:38 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

View Postharleyblueswoman, on 27 July 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

awful lot of secrecy and cover up for a damn weather balloon!!!  Ain't it time they just release the truth and get on with it?

They already did......sort of.  MJ-12 gave this guy a Green Light.



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 27 July 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Okay, I can buy them flying in specially trained/warned not to speak photographers it makes a degree of sense to use people who've prior experience in such matters.
So why not use flown in doctors as well? Why not just fly the remains out again? If you're going to take the effort to cover it up, go the whole hog and make it all disappear in a cloud of red tape and leave the mess for Ramey etc to clean up. Instead they go "here are some new photographers, but you lot have to still do the autopsy".

Yes, they had a contingency plan ready to go.

- Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico -  July 1947

They flew the debris to Wright Patterson Air Force base.

The Top Hat Spacecraft and the bodies were just driven up the road through Albuquerque onto Los Alamos Nat. labs.

At the time, that was the nearest secure U.S. Government Facility.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

View PostTau Ceti Xeta, on 27 July 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

They already had a contingency plan ready to go.

It turns out that the U.S. Navy had already made contact with Pleiadians back in September 1943.

It was called the Philadelphia Experiment - Project Rainbow -.

The Nazis were having a field day sinking half of all our ships headed to Great Britain.  The goal was to bend light

over the ships so the U Boat commanders couldn't see the ships.  Albert Einstein did the preliminary work at

Princeton University.  They started with a small toy boat and making it disappear.  Then they just scaled it up

to a full size U.S. Destroyer.  The experiment worked of course.  The technology was the same.  They just

scaled it up.  The U.S. Navy successfully warped spacetime. Our civilization went from a - Pre Warp Civilization -

into - Post Warp Civilization -.  Congratulations!  First Contact !

BTW, what took you so long?

The problem is that Einstein went to Phase 2.  - Rotate The Field -

The destroyer was teleported into the future and then back to September 1943.

The crew was used as guinea pigs for the experiment.  Without proper shielding many were killed.

The entire project was scrapped and classified Top Secret.  We switched to the convoy system

instead and of course won the war against Germany.

http://en.wikipedia....phia_Experiment

The Pleiades are only 100 million years old and will be destroyed by gravitational forces in another 250 million years.  Too young for life and will not be around for life to develop at all.  No Life, no aliens from the Pleiades

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades

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The Philadelphia Experiment is an urban legend that never happened.  From part of the wiki page you linked to.

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The USS Eldridge was not commissioned until August 27, 1943, and it remained in port in New York City until September 1943.

The October experiment allegedly took place while the ship was on its first shakedown cruise in the Bahamas, although proponents of the story claim that the ship's logs might have been falsified, or else still be classified.
The Office of Naval Research (ONR) stated in September 1996, "ONR has never conducted investigations on radar invisibility, either in 1943 or at any other time." Pointing out that the ONR was not established until 1946, it denounces the accounts of "The Philadelphia Experiment" as complete "science fiction".

A reunion of navy veterans who had served aboard the USS Eldridge told a Philadelphia newspaper in April 1999 that their ship had never made port in Philadelphia.[19] Further evidence discounting the Philadelphia Experiment timeline comes from the USS Eldridge’s complete World War II action report, including the remarks section of the 1943 deck log, available on microfilm

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The rest of your post is just personal belief based on something that didn't happen after contact with beings that never existed.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:16 PM

Question of the Day: Was Albert Einstein at Princeton University : July 1943?

1) Yes

2) No


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:21 PM

View PostTau Ceti Xeta, on 29 July 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

Hogwash?  I thought for sure that the Nazi U-Boats were sinking half of our ships going to Great Britain.

Hmmm.....

Trying to rewrite history?

- Desperate times breed desperate actions -

We need to find a way to prevent the U- Boat commanders from seeing our valuable cargo ships.

Some U Boat commanders are surfacing and shooting the survivors in the water.  We have to do something

to prevent this. Question of the day: Was Albert Einstein at Princeton University July 1943 ?

1) Yes
2) No

Seriously, that the best you've got?

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:22 PM

View PostRafterman, on 29 July 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

Seriously, that the best you've got?

Was that a Yes or a No ?


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:29 PM

View PostTau Ceti Xeta, on 29 July 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Was that a Yes or a No ?

So you're point being that the worldwide UFO conspiracy that started at Roswell in 1947, the Philadelphia Experiment in September 1943, and contact with aliens from Alpha Whatever are all proven by the fact that Albert Einstein was at Princeton in 1943?

Explain that one to us.

BTW, you do know that the UBoat war in the North Atlantic was all but over in May of 1943, right?

So how about instead of ****ting all over the memory of brave sailors, tacticians, and engineers by coming up with fanciful tales that have zero grounding in reality, how about we honor and remember them for their hard work and sacrifice - things that they were able to accomplish without any need for UFO wiz bang technology.

Edited by Rafterman, 29 July 2013 - 03:31 PM.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostRafterman, on 29 July 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

So you're point being that the worldwide UFO conspiracy that started at Roswell in 1947, the Philadelphia Experiment in September 1943, and contact with aliens from Alpha Whatever are all proven by the fact that Albert Einstein was at Princeton in 1943?

Explain that one to us.

BTW, you do know that the UBoat war in the North Atlantic was all but over in May of 1943, right?

So how about instead of ****ting all over the memory of brave sailors, tacticians, and engineers by coming up with fanciful tales that have zero grounding in reality, how about we honor and remember them for their hard work and sacrifice - things that they were able to accomplish without any need for UFO wiz bang technology.

So to answer my question......was Albert Einstein at Princeton University in 1943?

1) Yes

2) No


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 04:43 PM

View PostTau Ceti Xeta, on 29 July 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

So to answer my question......was Albert Einstein at Princeton University in 1943?

1) Yes

2) No

Why yes he was but since the Philadelphia experiment never happened it matter not and proves nothing.  Ignoring the facts doesn't actually support your view at all.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:07 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 29 July 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

Why yes he was but since the Philadelphia experiment never happened it matter not and proves nothing.  Ignoring the facts doesn't actually support your view at all.

He was! Oh that's good.

Okay, Albert Einstein was at Princeton University July 1943.

According to history he was working on something called the Unified Field Theory.

To put it another way: uniting the fields of electromagnetism and gravity into 1 field.

If light were bent then space-time would be bent.

Maybe we should just conduct an experiment and just see what happens.  Start small.

- Sounds like fun! -

Will it work?  What are the possible applications of this technology if it DOES work?

Could we make a B-17 invisible? Lets try and find out.

Call it something catchy like : Project Rainbow

Edited by Tau Ceti Xeta, 29 July 2013 - 05:08 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:12 PM

View PostTau Ceti Xeta, on 29 July 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

He was! Oh that's good.

Okay, Albert Einstein was at Princeton University July 1943.

According to history he was working on something called the Unified Field Theory.

To put it another way: uniting the fields of electromagnetism and gravity into 1 field.

If light were bent then space-time would be bent.

Maybe we should just conduct an experiment and just see what happens.  Start small.

- Sounds like fun! -

Will it work?  What are the possible applications of this technology if it DOES work?

Could we make a B-17 invisible? Lets try and find out.

Call it something catchy like : Project Rainbow

You have no idea what you are talking about whatsoever, do you? We know space time is curved and light is bent around gravity wells - this has been proven. However, Gravity still has to be has to be unified with other forces.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:22 PM

View Postbadeskov, on 29 July 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

You have no idea what you are talking about whatsoever, do you? We know space time is curved and light is bent around gravity wells - this has been proven. However, Gravity still has to be has to be unified with other forces.

Cheers,
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We appear to be making progress.

"Gravity still has to be unified with other forces."

You mean like - Electrogravitics - ?

If we can make a U.S. Navy destroyer invisible, can we make a B-2 Stealth Bomber invisible?

http://www.integrity...ogravitics.html


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 05:33 PM

View PostTau Ceti Xeta, on 29 July 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

We appear to be making progress.

"Gravity still has to be unified with other forces."

You mean like - Electrogravitics - ?

No, that is pseudo-science. We need a grand unified theory, we need quantum-mechanics aligned and unified with the general theory of relativity.

And as mentioned before, plenty of us has made progress, you seem to still stuck in pseudo-scientific gibberish with no ties to reality.

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If we can make a U.S. Navy destroyer invisible, can we make a B-2 Stealth Bomber invisible?

Yes, indeed. But we cannot make a destroyer let alone a tea-cup invisible yet.

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