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#91    AshenPhoenix

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 02:36 PM

View Postouija ouija, on 22 October 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

This is spot on!
Eh, it's just one of those universal truths you learn when you've been around the block a few times.... and not just in this life.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:05 PM

View PostOrdinaryClay, on 21 October 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

You conclude this because you are using the counter explanation to defeat the existence of the supernatural. Which is circular. To claim one has more evidence than the other you need to have independent lines of evidence for each case..
I saw the stuff in wikipedia. I suspect you dearly want to believe this is an adequate explanation for what is seen in spirit board divination, but it is clearly not. If we are to believe participants then muscle memory does not explain coherent extended conversations. Only a conscious mind does this. Stop and think about it for a moment. How could muscle memory possibly induce a coherent verbal or printed conversation. There is no science that suggest it can.

Well I personally do not see any evidence besides anecdotal for the spirit world.  One can recreate certain feelings and sensations in a lab using certain types of sensory deprivation and emf waves that are identical to what people claim to feel when they believe their house is haunted.  
If you do not understand what the subconscious mind is able to do, I'm unable to help you, but it is very complicated.  It's like driving home on auto pilot and a person could have an extended conversation with their UNconscious mind because they would not be aware of it.

I'm just saying that this is what I believe the Ouija board experience is.  If you don't believe it, then fine.  I just don't think the Ouija is any more harmful than Monopoly or Clue.  I'm just as entitled to my opinion as you are yours.  I didn't invent the ideometer effect, I just believe in it.


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:40 PM

Bling have you had your Ouija session yet? Did anything happen?
I am still on the fence as to what it is that comes through on the board....ie is someone pushing the glass, is it a spirit guide or is it a ghost/spirit or just someone using their mind to create movement ....whether it be willingly done or involuntary?
not sure, but I enjoy it anyway x


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Posted 23 October 2012 - 06:47 PM

View PostGhostHunterChickx, on 23 October 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

Bling have you had your Ouija session yet? Did anything happen?
I am still on the fence as to what it is that comes through on the board....ie is someone pushing the glass, is it a spirit guide or is it a ghost/spirit or just someone using their mind to create movement ....whether it be willingly done or involuntary?
not sure, but I enjoy it anyway x

To be absolutely honest....this thread and the advice given here on the forum in general is making me think it's far more serious than I thought, so I'm hesitating until I feel it's completely the right thing for me to do. I feel I've been sensitive to the spirit world for most of my life and I'm kinda scared that I might come into contact with something untoward (it would be just my luck) and I don't think at this time in my life I would cope with it particularly well. So, I'm not rushing into it just yet, I'm going to follow more advice, because I respect and believe....but know I know very little!


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 03:46 PM

View PostBling, on 23 October 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

To be absolutely honest....this thread and the advice given here on the forum in general is making me think it's far more serious than I thought, so I'm hesitating until I feel it's completely the right thing for me to do. I feel I've been sensitive to the spirit world for most of my life and I'm kinda scared that I might come into contact with something untoward (it would be just my luck) and I don't think at this time in my life I would cope with it particularly well. So, I'm not rushing into it just yet, I'm going to follow more advice, because I respect and believe....but know I know very little!

I don't blame you Bling x I am not comfortable using them at home etc...I always use them while in a group with others that are more experienced! just to be safe :-)


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:50 AM

So you all are that skeptic? First time i was 13 . and it was a legit board .I talked to Gus age 9 didnt know what he wanted. hes trapped in a cellar. hints was payphone and nebraska. Hes been here ever since. Im 19 I decided to make a good homeade one. I have videos ill post another time. I looked up Zo Zo . thats the name it gave my friends. they say ouija ouija are you there. I am in the bathroom. but it says yes... ARE you good or bad .. goes to the moon. the video shows the eye move in a figure eight. and said it was Zo Zo. They ask why are you here. It goes to T O N Y. My friend say Tonys not here. it spelled bathroom. Well there screaming my name. I go in the dark room. I ask what do you want from me. It spelled S O U L . I say its gods you cannot do anything. but why do you want my soul. He spells P U R E. I feel drowsy. confused. and ive been speaking un recognizable languages . my eyes stay open longer than it should be able to. i have laughing spells. nd say stuff that i couldnt possibly know. things stack up in my basement where I sleep. What can this be? i was texting my buddy. but it typed something that i did not. which was S U M M O N. can any one help? like Please.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:24 AM

Hi Bling, I just came across this thread.  I have shared my thoughts on ouijas a couple of times on other threads.  I have never attempted to use a ouija board but have read and heard about other peoples' experiences with them, and it's interesting to read the people's experiences on this thread.  To me it seems it would work on the same principle as automatic writing - which is what I do.  There are two ways people do this, but I do the one where you hold a pen to paper and it moves on its own to write answers to the questions that you ask.  (And for the skepics who are reading this - yes, you do know when the pen is moving on its own and definitely know if you even attempt to move it yourself).

Anyway, I advise to direct your questions to someone specifically.  I have contacted and talked to my father (whom I didn't know in this life).  But otherwise I only direct my communication to my Over-soul, Higher-Self, Subconscious (whatever one chooses to call it - I call it Higher-Self).  Your Higher-Self is the safest route to go, and it/you can answer so many questions and give so much information - it's amazing.  It is something you may be interested in trying besides the ouija.  I never knew I could do it until I tried it one day - just held a pen loosely in my hand and asked a question.  Nothing happened for a while but suddenly the pen moved just a smidgen on it's own which was really a shock to me.  It went painstakingly slow at first, but the more one practices with it the faster it gets.



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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:51 PM

View PostTime Traveler, on 29 October 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

Hi Bling, I just came across this thread.  I have shared my thoughts on ouijas a couple of times on other threads.  I have never attempted to use a ouija board but have read and heard about other peoples' experiences with them, and it's interesting to read the people's experiences on this thread.  To me it seems it would work on the same principle as automatic writing - which is what I do.  There are two ways people do this, but I do the one where you hold a pen to paper and it moves on its own to write answers to the questions that you ask.  (And for the skepics who are reading this - yes, you do know when the pen is moving on its own and definitely know if you even attempt to move it yourself).

Anyway, I advise to direct your questions to someone specifically.  I have contacted and talked to my father (whom I didn't know in this life).  But otherwise I only direct my communication to my Over-soul, Higher-Self, Subconscious (whatever one chooses to call it - I call it Higher-Self).  Your Higher-Self is the safest route to go, and it/you can answer so many questions and give so much information - it's amazing.  It is something you may be interested in trying besides the ouija.  I never knew I could do it until I tried it one day - just held a pen loosely in my hand and asked a question.  Nothing happened for a while but suddenly the pen moved just a smidgen on it's own which was really a shock to me.  It went painstakingly slow at first, but the more one practices with it the faster it gets.


Hiya! Do you say anything before the pen starts moving? Do you call out or anything? I've seen these things on TV and I think it's very interesting, but is it safe? Do you need to close down the session as you would with a Oujia Board?

I still haven't ruled out using a Ouija board, I just need to be 100% sure because I do believe in the paranormal, with a respectful apprehension.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:32 PM

View Postfortoday223_Antonio, on 29 October 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

So you all are that skeptic? First time i was 13 . and it was a legit board .I talked to Gus age 9 didnt know what he wanted. hes trapped in a cellar. hints was payphone and nebraska. Hes been here ever since. Im 19 I decided to make a good homeade one. I have videos ill post another time. I looked up Zo Zo . thats the name it gave my friends. they say ouija ouija are you there. I am in the bathroom. but it says yes... ARE you good or bad .. goes to the moon. the video shows the eye move in a figure eight. and said it was Zo Zo. They ask why are you here. It goes to T O N Y. My friend say Tonys not here. it spelled bathroom. Well there screaming my name. I go in the dark room. I ask what do you want from me. It spelled S O U L . I say its gods you cannot do anything. but why do you want my soul. He spells P U R E. I feel drowsy. confused. and ive been speaking un recognizable languages . my eyes stay open longer than it should be able to. i have laughing spells. nd say stuff that i couldnt possibly know. things stack up in my basement where I sleep. What can this be? i was texting my buddy. but it typed something that i did not. which was S U M M O N. can any one help? like Please.



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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:44 PM

View Postcoldethyl, on 30 October 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Huh?
Yeah I was a little confused too.  Someone needs to cut down on the caffene...


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:43 AM

View PostBling, on 29 October 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Hiya! Do you say anything before the pen starts moving? Do you call out or anything? I've seen these things on TV and I think it's very interesting, but is it safe? Do you need to close down the session as you would with a Oujia Board?

I still haven't ruled out using a Ouija board, I just need to be 100% sure because I do believe in the paranormal, with a respectful apprehension.
Hi Bling, Sorry it took so long to reply, my time on the forum is hit and miss.  The only thing I say before I start a session is, "I address this question to my Higher-Self", then I ask the question.  I never say anything special to close a session, because I am basically communicating to my self.   Whether you experiment with automatic writing or the ouija, I believe it is safe as long as you are careful to state who you are speaking to.  I have been doing this for a few years and haven't had any problems.


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 08:18 PM

View PostTime Traveler, on 02 November 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

Hi Bling, Sorry it took so long to reply, my time on the forum is hit and miss.  The only thing I say before I start a session is, "I address this question to my Higher-Self", then I ask the question.  I never say anything special to close a session, because I am basically communicating to my self.   Whether you experiment with automatic writing or the ouija, I believe it is safe as long as you are careful to state who you are speaking to.  I have been doing this for a few years and haven't had any problems.

Thanks! Something for me to consider....


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:47 PM

What's important to remember is that what you see happening on the surface of an Ouija board is not something that is coming from "inside your brain." Everything that you see happening on the Ouija board is resulting from the fact that your brain is interacting with the rest of the Universe to create an experience that has meaning to you.

Consciousness -- in other words -- everything we experience --is the achievement of the "entire human being" interacting with its environment.

The bottom line is, the information that comes across to you on the Quija board is created by you IN COOPERATION -- with other materials outside of yourself -- and this means that the information that comes to you across the Ouija board is a communication between you and something that is other than you

Also: A lot of people will tell you that the Ouija board is "just a toy" made by Parker Bros.  But so what?. Any object in the Universe can be used as a toy. For example, if I was a kid I could pretend that a crescent wrench was a magic wand. I would be using it to play wizard. That does not mean the wrench is still cannot be used as a real tool to turn a bolt. In the same fashion, you can say the Ouija board is "just a toy" and make your intent to use it that way, just as you could use a wrench as a magic wand. But you could also use the Ouija board as a way to gather novel information from some other location in the Universe.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:48 PM

View PostIronGhost, on 02 November 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

What's important to remember is that what you see happening on the surface of an Ouija board is not something that is coming from "inside your brain." Everything that you see happening on the Ouija board is resulting from the fact that your brain is interacting with the rest of the Universe to create an experience that has meaning to you.

Consciousness -- in other words -- everything we experience --is the achievement of the "entire human being" interacting with its environment.

The bottom line is, the information that comes across to you on the Quija board is created by you IN COOPERATION -- with other materials outside of yourself -- and this means that the information that comes to you across the Ouija board is a communication between you and something that is other than you

Also: A lot of people will tell you that the Ouija board is "just a toy" made by Parker Bros.  But so what?. Any object in the Universe can be used as a toy. For example, if I was a kid I could pretend that a crescent wrench was a magic wand. I would be using it to play wizard. That does not mean the wrench is still cannot be used as a real tool to turn a bolt. In the same fashion, you can say the Ouija board is "just a toy" and make your intent to use it that way, just as you could use a wrench as a magic wand. But you could also use the Ouija board as a way to gather novel information from some other location in the Universe.

Thank you :)


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

View PostBling, on 23 October 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

To be absolutely honest....this thread and the advice given here on the forum in general is making me think it's far more serious than I thought, so I'm hesitating until I feel it's completely the right thing for me to do. I feel I've been sensitive to the spirit world for most of my life and I'm kinda scared that I might come into contact with something untoward (it would be just my luck) and I don't think at this time in my life I would cope with it particularly well. So, I'm not rushing into it just yet, I'm going to follow more advice, because I respect and believe....but know I know very little!

Yeah. I was going to play a game of Operation until somebody warned me against it. They said it was evil and could do things, but couldn't specify what or how or even prove it. I just put the game away and I have never touched it since. I'm scared just thinking about!





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