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Ethics and legal issues behind abortion

when do you support and when do you not

 Started by Blood_Sacrifice , Nov 15 2012 01:30 PM
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Poll: Ethics and legal issues behind abortion (32 member(s) have cast votes)

Morally you support abortion only when

  1. The woman's life is at fatal (or similar) risk (16 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  2. Rape case scenario (14 votes [23.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.33%

  3. Genetic deformities of the fetus (12 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. As a 'contraceptive method' to unwanted pregnancies (2 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  5. All case (15 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  6. Never - not even when the woman's health is at fatal risk (1 votes [1.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.67%

Legally when do you support abortion?

  1. The woman's life is at fatal (or similar) risk (5 votes [15.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.62%

  2. Rape case scenario (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Genetic deformities of the fetus (1 votes [3.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.12%

  4. As a 'contraceptive method' to unwanted pregnancies (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. All case (25 votes [78.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.12%

  6. Never - not even when the woman's health is at fatal risk (1 votes [3.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.12%

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#1    Blood_Sacrifice

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:30 PM

Morally - only when the woman's health is at fatal risk.
Legally - support the woman's choice in ALL cases.

So you can call me morally prolife but legally prochoice.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:23 PM

I'm pro-life in all cases, I don't believe that abortion should be used as contraceptive... even for a 14 year old. This is why they have adoption agencies.

The ONLY TIME I believe it's a feasible option, is under 2 circumstances:

1. Mother will die
2. Baby is severely retarded or deformed

I don't believe a woman should have the right to kill their baby in any other case even rape (again, this is why they have adoption agencies... it's not the babies fault), and I believe that if you do, you're no better than a murdering psychopath... and furthermore you should be locked up.

Edited by mindpurge, 15 November 2012 - 02:24 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:37 PM

What about the psychological issues that could arise from not only being raped but then having to carry said rapist's baby to term and then give birth to that baby? I know, it's not the child's fault, but what about the psychological harm that could be inflicted on the mother?

Edited by Hasina, 15 November 2012 - 02:38 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:45 PM

I support a woman's right to choose in all cases both legally and morally.  While I myself would not have one except under special circumstances, such as health, I believe that what others choose to do is none of my business and they will do what is right for them.  I do, however have a big problem with late term abortions, especially when the baby would be viable outside the womb. There's no need for that, in my opinion.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

View Postmindpurge, on 15 November 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

I don't believe a woman should have the right to kill their baby in any other case even rape (again, this is why they have adoption agencies... it's not the babies fault), and I believe that if you do, you're no better than a murdering psychopath... and furthermore you should be locked up.
And I could say you're no better than a rapist for denying the women the legal choice to abort.

Edited by Rlyeh, 15 November 2012 - 03:40 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:58 PM

For anyone to vote it is not right to abort in ALL cases...I do not get how they think it is morally right to go ahead and let the woman die as a result?  It is disgusting
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one, but who are you to tell others they cannot?

Some tigers eat their young and some humans abort theirs, neither of which affects you or me in the slightest.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostHazrus, on 15 November 2012 - 04:48 PM, said:

If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one, but who are you to tell others they cannot?


Who is saying they cannot?
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:06 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 15 November 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:



Who is saying they cannot?

Just a general statement BM, meant for any anti-abortionists.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:19 PM

I voted in all cases for both moral and legal, but I want to make a caveat that it only applies to the first 15 weeks, after that I would say life of the mother or severe problems with the fetus for both moral and legal.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

View Postmindpurge, on 15 November 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

I'm pro-life in all cases, I don't believe that abortion should be used as contraceptive... even for a 14 year old. This is why they have adoption agencies.

The ONLY TIME I believe it's a feasible option, is under 2 circumstances:

1. Mother will die
2. Baby is severely retarded or deformed

I don't believe a woman should have the right to kill their baby in any other case even rape (again, this is why they have adoption agencies... it's not the babies fault), and I believe that if you do, you're no better than a murdering psychopath... and furthermore you should be locked up.

I think you might be a psychopath to believe that your ideals are the most important thing in the world considering narcissim is the #1 psychopathic trait.  Also, adoption is not really a better option in my mind.  It is just a different one.

Edited by FurthurBB, 15 November 2012 - 05:24 PM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

If a woman is raped, I believe if she wants to get cleaned out right away,  so be it...It is her right..

I have never been raped...but I would imagine it is a terrifying  ordeal... I think so many want all traces of the rapist  out of their bodies as soon as possible..
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 15 November 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

If a woman is raped, I believe if she wants to get cleaned out right away,  so be it...It is her right..

I have never been raped...but I would imagine it is a terrifying  ordeal... I think so many want all traces of the rapist  out of their bodies as soon as possible..
Not only that. If we allow rape to be a viable form of reproduction, we could open up a pandoras box.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:45 PM

Women should have the right to make that choice for themselves. A state should not dictate whether or not a women has an abortion or has a child.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:44 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 15 November 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Not only that. If we allow rape to be a viable form of reproduction, we could open up a pandoras box.

There is always those possibilities, I agree..
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