Weird Moon Anomaly!

[dcman]

I have been reading this post at ATS and would like to open it for discussion here.

Here’s an image of the Moon, specifically at coordinates:

Latitude = -35 (not 35)

Longitude = 208

What do you think it could be? And I would also like to mention here that it is apparent that some sort of tampering has been done to try and hide the object. But it’s a pretty shoddy job.

An artificial construct? A film processing glitch? A UFO? Or a natural geological feature? You be the judge! As for me, one way or the other, that thing is pretty intriguing!

The twelfth Disclosure witness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJPD_emdcBg

Click here to to blow-up of THIS object: http://www.usno.navy.mil/pao/Moon100500color.jpg

Click here to to blow-up of THIS object: http://keithlaney.net/ApolloOrbitalimages/...6-118-18957.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rt7mnz4J5E

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04...arcus_MA_03.png

Anyone want to discuss these images on the moon?

Edited September 25, 2007 by dcman

[dcman]

I have been reading this post at ATS and would like to open it for discussion here.

Here’s an image of the Moon, specifically at coordinates:

Latitude = -35 (not 35)

Longitude = 208

What do you think it could be? And I would also like to mention here that it is apparent that some sort of tampering has been done to try and hide the object. But it’s a pretty shoddy job.

An artificial construct? A film processing glitch? A UFO? Or a natural geological feature? You be the judge! As for me, one way or the other, that thing is pretty intriguing!

The twelfth Disclosure witness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJPD_emdcBg

Click here to to blow-up of THIS object: http://www.usno.navy.mil/pao/Moon100500color.jpg

Click here to to blow-up of THIS object: http://keithlaney.net/ApolloOrbitalimages/...6-118-18957.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rt7mnz4J5E

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04...arcus_MA_03.png

Anyone want to discuss these images on the moon?

Looking at these objects leaves me wondering if these aren't alien structures on the moon, either that or we have been working on the moon for some time now...secretly.

[BishopRyan]

I have a hard time putting any validity into this because there are hundreds if not thousands of amatuer astronomers out there, and not a peep from any of them on any of their forums. Compelling read though.

[ZeroGhost]

Looking at these objects leaves me wondering if these aren't alien structures on the moon, either that or we have been working on the moon for some time now...secretly.

I say it is not out of the realm of possibility that there are not only ancient structures from ancient Earth and other civilizations, but other facilities for visiting or permanent living entities. The many millions of years the Moon has been there, and subsequent cycles of civilizations whose technology could have equaled or was in advance ours, plus the fact, many of us have experienced that other beings and their technology are now and have been here, maybe millions of years, so Duh. No brainer. It is just a matter of looking.

What I find I cannot believe is that NASA has done such a crappy job of retouch on these images. I do retouching professionally and if I did it you would never know. Who are the unskilled workers doing the shoddy work? Hard to believe they would obscure part and not all the imagery. Also, you have seen all the other shots I'm sure, and what numbskull thinks selecting an area and using "blur" will cover anything up except half an ass?

If we get public probes that are not beholden to the DOD or darker areas of so called govenment control, we can task imagery from these locations and see some truth. Did I just see that Google money is going to support a Moon mission for robotics to be placed and remotely controlled and connected so all can web-see the transmissions? I'll look.

Yep. Here's the link.

Google: Put a rover on the moon, win $30 million - CNN.com

Google Inc. is bankrolling a $30 million out-of-this-world prize to the first private company that can safely land a robotic rover on the moon and beam back ...

www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/09/13/google.moon.prize.ap/ - 56k -

[ZeroGhost]

Looking at these objects leaves me wondering if these aren't alien structures on the moon, either that or we have been working on the moon for some time now...secretly.

Actually your postulate is incorrect. I am an amateur astronomer (17" Dob and 30 years observing), I have, and I have friends who also have seen things. Case in point. I was at an astronomy conference RTMC a few years ago. The conference was for telescope makers, so we are at 9K altitude near Big Bear in So CA. There where close to 200 amateurs and their telescopes on this mountain, everyone was looking at the sky, trying each other’s scopes out and it was a clear night.

We saw a structured weird green craft fly overhead about 200 to 500 feet above the area traveling at the speed of a light aircraft. No sound, but highly strange. It looked like only a section of this whatever it was lit by a very saturated green light. I shouted "look!" and many in the local area (cut off by trees from the rest of the group as these scopes where set up in campsites at Camp Oaks spread across the mountain top), and no one, I MEAN NO ONE, said a peep. Like they where hoping it did not happen.

I have friends who are well known Physicists who would NOT want to see such things and would go to such lengths as to explain it away in multiple theories to show you how it would more likely be explainable. So I would disagree that there are no discussions due to no evidence. Such evidence is denied in the face of it just like someone will deny they drink or smoke too much. Humans are very self-protected from awareness that threatens their ontological views.

[BishopRyan]

Have you seen structures on the moon with your telescope or not?

[DigitalSentinal]

ZeroGhost, I wholeheartedly agree with you 101%.

[ZeroGhost]

Actually your postulate is incorrect. I am an amateur astronomer (17" Dob and 30 years observing), I have, and I have friends who also have seen things. Case in point. I was at an astronomy conference RTMC a few years ago. The conference was for telescope makers, so we are at 9K altitude near Big Bear in So CA. There where close to 200 amateurs and their telescopes on this mountain, everyone was looking at the sky, trying each other’s scopes out and it was a clear night.

We saw a structured weird green craft fly overhead about 200 to 500 feet above the area traveling at the speed of a light aircraft. No sound, but highly strange. It looked like only a section of this whatever it was lit by a very saturated green light. I shouted "look!" and many in the local area (cut off by trees from the rest of the group as these scopes where set up in campsites at Camp Oaks spread across the mountain top), and no one, I MEAN NO ONE, said a peep. Like they where hoping it did not happen.

I have friends who are well known Physicists who would NOT want to see such things and would go to such lengths as to explain it away in multiple theories to show you how it would more likely be explainable. So I would disagree that there are no discussions due to no evidence. Such evidence is denied in the face of it just like someone will deny they drink or smoke too much. Humans are very self-protected from awareness that threatens their ontological views.

No. Standard terrestrial telescopes cannot easily get detail as atmospheric distortion at the resolutions here would be swimming. There are tricks, and I will try and keep trying, but a #10 seeing night and stable upper air could get pretty close views.

GMM

[GirlInBlack]

I have asked and looked for photos taken by independent observatories, but have yet to find any that have this kind of detail. Were these photos taken from orbit? I do not fully trust any photos released by NASA or any government site.

Edited September 26, 2007 by GirlInBlack

[GirlInBlack]

Here is a more in depth look at moon anomalies. These are all NASA photos though, so who knows if they have been tampered with.

American researcher Steve Wingate was the first person to bring world attention to the anomaly in the far side Lobachevsky Crater by posting the old Apollo 16 photograph and several new views from the recent Clementine mapping mission to the Lunascan Mailing List. Even more recently, eminent German geologist and science writer Dr. Johannes Fiebag confirmed Wingate's discovery of an "unusual and possibly artificial structure" on the mysterious far side of the moon as shown in the 25 year old NASA Apollo 16 orbital photograph, AS16/10075825.

Dr. Fiebag, highly-respected, is the author of two recent books: "Mars - Planet Des Lebens", Econ-Publisher, Düsseldorf 1996; and "Mission Pathfinder", (Econ Publisher, Düsseldorf 1997).

Below is the original NASA Apollo 16 photograph which we will now examine in extraordinary detail.

Upon examination of the photograph, it was apparent that both Steve Wingate and then Dr. Fiebag's claims about the Apollo 16 photograph of the Lobachevsky Crater merited immediate closer examination. The picture was sent to graphics analyst Liz Edwards at IWonder Productions for enhancement and further analysis. Her work quickly underscored the fact that there are indeed some bizarre anomalies in the photograph, in fact there are several.

(Ms. Edwards' most recently exposed what appears to be a tiny missile in a photograph of a New York sunset at the exact time of the TWA 800 tragedy.)

Ms. Edwards made it clear that her multi-stage "enhancement process takes the image to its most critical viewing size without distorting the objects in question." Below, is her first enhancement of the NASA Apollo 16 photograph...

This first enhancement (above) is remarkable in itself in that there are apparently four clearly strange and unusual 'objects' or anomalies in the Lobachevsky Crater.

Item "A" demonstrates a strange white rectangular shape along the ridge of the crater rim and includes an unusual shadow below and to its right.

Item "B" appears to be a spectacular 'spire' soaring perhaps hundreds of meters straight up from the lunar surface and standing next to what appears to be a rectangular shadowed hole or depression running from its base out to the right.

Item "C" smaller but odd, sits in the bottom of the small valley or ravine below the crater rim.

Item "D" is set apart from the other objects and projects an extraordinary and bright reflective surface.

Here is Ms. Edwards' close-up enhancement of three of the subject areas.

Item "A", the ridge-top on the left, draws immediate attention because of its stunning line-up of round protuberances. These appear to be an integral part of the white colored area or cap on top of the ridge. These black, holed objects are lined-up in such a way as to provoke images of large 'ventilation' or exhaust stacks as might be seen on an ocean liner or large industrial plant...only much larger. These objects seem anything but a trick of light and shadow. A spectacular formation. Evidence of volcanism? Part of a major project or operation? What is it?

Item "B" presents what appears to be a dazzling image rising straight up from the lunar surface many hundreds of feet into the void of space. Are we witnessing this tower-like object being hit by the sun's rays and appearing to be thereby illuminated....as one would expect a piece of crystal to do if struck by the sun in this fashion? Or, is the entire 'tower' simply some type of photographic anomaly? If real, it is a stunning artifact...a crystal lunar obelisk? A construct of ET technology somehow linked to the bizarre ridge-top 'vent' pipes above on the crater rim? A part of a mining or excavation operation directly related to the dark, shadowed surface depression next to it?

Item "C", at the bottom of the ravine below the ridge, smaller, but seemingly also rising up out of the lunar soil to pose mute questions that we can only ponder.

Maximum Object Enhancement

Item "A". Again, this is an absolutely stunning display of?

A long series of ridge-top holes or openings or vents?

What are they?

Evidence of ancient volcanism?

The results of some type of post asteroid impact heat release?

Are they intelligently devised and part of an operational base and installation?

Funnels to carry some gaseous emission out from deep below?

Almost like Lunar 'coral'. What do you think?

Item "B" presents itself as major enigma. Think about it...

Item "C". Smaller 'spire' like item.

By the way Dr. Fiebag has not openly described his discoveries as necessarily representing an extraterrestrial artifact on the lunar surface but makes it clear that he cannot rule that possibility out.

Item "D" is very much its own enigma. Sitting well away from the other primary anomalies, this small item puts out a distinct shadow and shape and has further been enhanced by Ms. Edwards as displayed in the small inset in the lower right corner of the picture. Again, what do you think??

Lobachevsky 'Excavation' or 'Shadow'

Recently Imaged By Clementine

Courtesy NASA and Steve Wingate

Where is the 'tower' next to the 'excavation' in the recent Clementine photographs of Lobachevsky?

Was it simply a defect in the original Apollo 16 photograph? Hardly likely.

Then where did it go?

Was it removed when it's task was completed?

Analysis of the 'excavation' anomaly area suggests the shape of the crater appears to have changed noticeably from the time of the Apollo picture more than 20 years earlier.

Could this apparently different lunar terrain texture have resulted from a major excavation and/or mining operation which entered into the side of the crater rim? Or, is this dark area all just a 'lava flow' as NASA states?

Here is a nice conspiracy video as well...http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-9075306542842977658&hl=en-GB

Edited September 26, 2007 by GirlInBlack

[dcman]

Here is a more in depth look at moon anomalies. These are all NASA photos though, so who knows if they have been tampered with.

American researcher Steve Wingate was the first person to bring world attention to the anomaly in the far side Lobachevsky Crater by posting the old Apollo 16 photograph and several new views from the recent Clementine mapping mission to the Lunascan Mailing List. Even more recently, eminent German geologist and science writer Dr. Johannes Fiebag confirmed Wingate's discovery of an "unusual and possibly artificial structure" on the mysterious far side of the moon as shown in the 25 year old NASA Apollo 16 orbital photograph, AS16/10075825.

Dr. Fiebag, highly-respected, is the author of two recent books: "Mars - Planet Des Lebens", Econ-Publisher, Düsseldorf 1996; and "Mission Pathfinder", (Econ Publisher, Düsseldorf 1997).

Below is the original NASA Apollo 16 photograph which we will now examine in extraordinary detail.

Upon examination of the photograph, it was apparent that both Steve Wingate and then Dr. Fiebag's claims about the Apollo 16 photograph of the Lobachevsky Crater merited immediate closer examination. The picture was sent to graphics analyst Liz Edwards at IWonder Productions for enhancement and further analysis. Her work quickly underscored the fact that there are indeed some bizarre anomalies in the photograph, in fact there are several.

(Ms. Edwards' most recently exposed what appears to be a tiny missile in a photograph of a New York sunset at the exact time of the TWA 800 tragedy.)

Ms. Edwards made it clear that her multi-stage "enhancement process takes the image to its most critical viewing size without distorting the objects in question." Below, is her first enhancement of the NASA Apollo 16 photograph...

This first enhancement (above) is remarkable in itself in that there are apparently four clearly strange and unusual 'objects' or anomalies in the Lobachevsky Crater.

Item "A" demonstrates a strange white rectangular shape along the ridge of the crater rim and includes an unusual shadow below and to its right.

Item "B" appears to be a spectacular 'spire' soaring perhaps hundreds of meters straight up from the lunar surface and standing next to what appears to be a rectangular shadowed hole or depression running from its base out to the right.

Item "C" smaller but odd, sits in the bottom of the small valley or ravine below the crater rim.

Item "D" is set apart from the other objects and projects an extraordinary and bright reflective surface.

Here is Ms. Edwards' close-up enhancement of three of the subject areas.

Item "A", the ridge-top on the left, draws immediate attention because of its stunning line-up of round protuberances. These appear to be an integral part of the white colored area or cap on top of the ridge. These black, holed objects are lined-up in such a way as to provoke images of large 'ventilation' or exhaust stacks as might be seen on an ocean liner or large industrial plant...only much larger. These objects seem anything but a trick of light and shadow. A spectacular formation. Evidence of volcanism? Part of a major project or operation? What is it?

Item "B" presents what appears to be a dazzling image rising straight up from the lunar surface many hundreds of feet into the void of space. Are we witnessing this tower-like object being hit by the sun's rays and appearing to be thereby illuminated....as one would expect a piece of crystal to do if struck by the sun in this fashion? Or, is the entire 'tower' simply some type of photographic anomaly? If real, it is a stunning artifact...a crystal lunar obelisk? A construct of ET technology somehow linked to the bizarre ridge-top 'vent' pipes above on the crater rim? A part of a mining or excavation operation directly related to the dark, shadowed surface depression next to it?

Item "C", at the bottom of the ravine below the ridge, smaller, but seemingly also rising up out of the lunar soil to pose mute questions that we can only ponder.

Maximum Object Enhancement

Item "A". Again, this is an absolutely stunning display of?

A long series of ridge-top holes or openings or vents?

What are they?

Evidence of ancient volcanism?

The results of some type of post asteroid impact heat release?

Are they intelligently devised and part of an operational base and installation?

Funnels to carry some gaseous emission out from deep below?

Almost like Lunar 'coral'. What do you think?

Item "B" presents itself as major enigma. Think about it...

Item "C". Smaller 'spire' like item.

By the way Dr. Fiebag has not openly described his discoveries as necessarily representing an extraterrestrial artifact on the lunar surface but makes it clear that he cannot rule that possibility out.

Item "D" is very much its own enigma. Sitting well away from the other primary anomalies, this small item puts out a distinct shadow and shape and has further been enhanced by Ms. Edwards as displayed in the small inset in the lower right corner of the picture. Again, what do you think??

Lobachevsky 'Excavation' or 'Shadow'

Recently Imaged By Clementine

Courtesy NASA and Steve Wingate

Where is the 'tower' next to the 'excavation' in the recent Clementine photographs of Lobachevsky?

Was it simply a defect in the original Apollo 16 photograph? Hardly likely.

Then where did it go?

Was it removed when it's task was completed?

Analysis of the 'excavation' anomaly area suggests the shape of the crater appears to have changed noticeably from the time of the Apollo picture more than 20 years earlier.

Could this apparently different lunar terrain texture have resulted from a major excavation and/or mining operation which entered into the side of the crater rim? Or, is this dark area all just a 'lava flow' as NASA states?

Here is a nice conspiracy video as well...http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-9075306542842977658&hl=en-GB

I guess there are no sceptics about this.

[Emma_Acid]

I guess there are no sceptics about this.

Don't be so sure. Show me something that isn't digital compression and it'll provoke a bit more discussion. All you have there are digital anomalies. You're seeing things because you want to.

[dcman]

Don't be so sure. Show me something that isn't digital compression and it'll provoke a bit more discussion. All you have there are digital anomalies. You're seeing things because you want to.

Take a closer look at the pictures Emma, especially the one with some sort of spike/tower in the crater...it is a very high resolution picture.

Edited September 26, 2007 by dcman

[Pericynthion]

Take a closer look at the pictures Emma, especially the one with some sort of spike/tower in the crater...it is a very high resolution picture.

dcman,

I originally responded to your post of this picture over in the "Astronauts talk about UFOs" thread. Since this is a more appropriate thread for this discussion, I'll continue my responses here. Here's my initial post from the other thread:

It's just a fiber on the scanner or a mark on the scanned print/transparency. It doesn't cast a shadow and it doesn't show up on other versions of the same image or other images of the same crater. Here's a very high-resolution raw scan of the same photo which I requested from NASA today. This link may not stay active for too many days:

AS16-118-18957 High Resolution Scan

Here's another high resolution image of the same area from the Apollo 16 mapping camera (Warning to dial-up users -- this links to a 3MB file):

AS16-M-0728

Neither of these images show any sign of the mystery "object" because it's not really there.

To which you replied:

The scans you are posting are highly out of focus and blurred. Is it possible that an antenna may have fallen off and landed in the crater?

No, the images are not out of focus. Here's a cropped version of the full-size photo from Keith Laney's site showing the area immediately around the mystery "object."

And here is the same area of the high-resolution scan of AS16-118-18957 from the NASA Gateway site, shown at full size. I've adjusted brightness levels, but have not otherwise altered the image:

It seems pretty clear to me that the high-res scan shows much more actual image detail than the version from Keith Laney's site. The "object" should be clearly visible, but there's absolutely no sign of it. It's just a flaw in the scan.

In answer to your second question, no it's not possible that this is an antenna from the spacecraft that fell off and landed in the crater. If it were a real object, it would show up in all versions of the photo. Also, if it were real it would be enormous. The AS16-118-18957 photo was taken from the Apollo 16 command/service module in orbit over the far side of the moon. It shows a huge area of the lunar surface. For reference, here's a cropped portion of AS16-M-1728 to which I've added a few notes.

The large crater in the center of the image is Kohlschutter. It's about 53 km (33 miles) in diameter. I've outlined in green the approximate area seen in the cropped portions of AS16-118-18957 which I've shown above. The green arrow shows the approximate viewing direction. By my rough calculations, the "object" would be pretty close to a mile long assuming it was on the surface and roughly parallel to the viewing plane.

[dcman]

dcman,

I originally responded to your post of this picture over in the "Astronauts talk about UFOs" thread. Since this is a more appropriate thread for this discussion, I'll continue my responses here. Here's my initial post from the other thread:

To which you replied:

No, the images are not out of focus. Here's a cropped version of the full-size photo from Keith Laney's site showing the area immediately around the mystery "object."

And here is the same area of the high-resolution scan of AS16-118-18957 from the NASA Gateway site, shown at full size. I've adjusted brightness levels, but have not otherwise altered the image:

It seems pretty clear to me that the high-res scan shows much more actual image detail than the version from Keith Laney's site. The "object" should be clearly visible, but there's absolutely no sign of it. It's just a flaw in the scan.

In answer to your second question, no it's not possible that this is an antenna from the spacecraft that fell off and landed in the crater. If it were a real object, it would show up in all versions of the photo. Also, if it were real it would be enormous. The AS16-118-18957 photo was taken from the Apollo 16 command/service module in orbit over the far side of the moon. It shows a huge area of the lunar surface. For reference, here's a cropped portion of AS16-M-1728 to which I've added a few notes.

The large crater in the center of the image is Kohlschutter. It's about 53 km (33 miles) in diameter. I've outlined in green the approximate area seen in the cropped portions of AS16-118-18957 which I've shown above. The green arrow shows the approximate viewing direction. By my rough calculations, the "object" would be pretty close to a mile long assuming it was on the surface and roughly parallel to the viewing plane.

Curious that it would be in one scan and not the other...maybe a trammel point that was not compensated for in the processing of the scan.

[Emma_Acid]

Curious that it would be in one scan and not the other...maybe a trammel point that was not compensated for in the processing of the scan.

Case rested.

[Moon*Ghost]

I do not see a "distinct shadow" in item D

[thevocalist]

Hey great thread. I started one a while back called Mars and Moon Anomilies. It went pretty ggod, have some decent images on it,.. and of course. A few @ssholes that that had nothing better to do then bash the thread and all in it. These are new to me. There is so much more on the moon then we may never know. Same with Mars.

[analog_warrior]

As for the first image, if someone is trying to hide it then I'm wondering why they would leave so much exsposed. I mean, what's hidden must be something to blow the mind.

[dcman]

As for the first image, if someone is trying to hide it then I'm wondering why they would leave so much exsposed. I mean, what's hidden must be something to blow the mind.

Can anyone identify these objects in these pics? :

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17429HR.jpg

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17428HR.jpg

Edited October 1, 2007 by dcman

[dcman]

Can anyone identify these objects in these pics? :

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17429HR.jpg

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17428HR.jpg

One more angle:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17430HR.jpg

[Pericynthion]

Can anyone identify these objects in these pics? :

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17429HR.jpg

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/AS16-107-17428HR.jpg

Sure. It's just lens flare from pointing the camera near the sun. Those photos are from Apollo 16. Here's another shot from the same mission which shows the both the sun and the resulting flare artifacts:

AS16-109-17856

Edited to add missing word

Edited October 1, 2007 by Pericynthion

[dcman]

Sure. It's just lens flare from pointing the camera near the sun. Those photos are from Apollo 16. Here's another shot from the same mission which shows the both the sun and the resulting flare artifacts:

AS16-109-17856

Edited to add missing word

Only the sun isn't in those other pics and not on this one either:

Could it be something else?

Edited October 1, 2007 by dcman

[Pericynthion]

Only the sun isn't in those other pics and not on this one either:

Could it be something else?

Nope. That's definitely lens flare. The sun doesn't need to be in-frame to cause flare. I did a really quick search at Flickr.com and found this great example:

Photo by ktpupp at Flickr.com. Used under provisions of the Creative Commons license.

The sun is clearly not in the frame, but it's still causing the same sorts of streaks and spots that are visible in the Apollo photos. For a good tutorial on lens flare, take a look here.

[SkepticalEd]

Here is a more in depth look at moon anomalies. These are all NASA photos though, so who knows if they have been tampered with.

SkepticalEd: "Nobody knows if NASA really tampers with lunar photos (Mars is another topic) because all that has happened so far is that so and so said that NASA airbrushes lunar photos to remove UFOs, artifacts, etc., but NO ONE has ever shown a before and after photo proving the claims. Until this is done, accusing NASA of impropriety is one-sided and without evidence."

American researcher Steve Wingate was the first person to bring world attention to the anomaly in the far side Lobachevsky Crater by posting the old Apollo 16 photograph and several new views from the recent Clementine mapping mission to the Lunascan Mailing List. Even more recently, eminent German geologist and science writer Dr. Johannes Fiebag confirmed Wingate's discovery of an "unusual and possibly artificial structure" on the mysterious far side of the moon as shown in the 25 year old NASA Apollo 16 orbital photograph, AS16/10075825.

SkepticalEd: "I was involved in this ridiculous brouhaha back in the late '90s. Steve Wingate did NOT bring world attention to this NATURAL feature. It wasn't hailed by the world as very few were aware of it. It is not an anomaly and Wingate should be whipped into submission for b.s. those that became aware of it, such as Lunascan Project, and claiming it was something other than a natural feature. Dr Fiebag made a major error when he confirmed and promoted this stupidity. Jeff Rense had an article on his website when it was called SIGHTINGS titled "Astonishing Intelligent Artifacts (?) Found On Mysterious Far Side Of The Moon." If you search for it you won't find it 'cause I wrote to Rense and told him the truth about this b.s. "anomaly" and he removed the article. The article also included a debunking by another person who came to the same conclusions as I did. I also wrote Dr Fiebag and lambasted him for using his good name to endorse b.s. He replied, and I still have his email archived on videotape. He said to me, in part: "However, besides this I already made clear in different mailing lists and personal messages that I VERY LIKELY WAS WRONG! The white straight structure is an artifact - but an human one made here on Earth." What does he mean by '...an human one made here on Earth.'? What I told him and Rense and everyone who put up a page on their website with Rense's article: that the 'anomaly' was nothing more than Liz Edwards' computer enhancement of a small photograph and got pixelated beyond use. What you see on her enhancement is nothing but pixels on steroids. I'm simplifying this but eventually I was responsible for the removal from websites. The only person I had a problem with was Ms Edwards herself who couldn't see beyond her stupidity. Crater Lobachevsky has a small crater on one of its walls. The crater is named Guyot. It has edges with high albedo and some lava flow. When you look at a high resolution photo you won't see any 'anomaly' but a crater with high reflection called albedo. Edwards created the 'anomaly', not aliens. Anything below this rebuttal on this post is worthless and has no merit as it is not based on real, hard data but on the gullibility of people who do not do enough research but accept claims as if blind."

Dr. Fiebag, highly-respected, is the author of two recent books: "Mars - Planet Des Lebens", Econ-Publisher, Düsseldorf 1996; and "Mission Pathfinder", (Econ Publisher, Düsseldorf 1997).

Below is the original NASA Apollo 16 photograph which we will now examine in extraordinary detail.

Upon examination of the photograph, it was apparent that both Steve Wingate and then Dr. Fiebag's claims about the Apollo 16 photograph of the Lobachevsky Crater merited immediate closer examination. The picture was sent to graphics analyst Liz Edwards at IWonder Productions for enhancement and further analysis. Her work quickly underscored the fact that there are indeed some bizarre anomalies in the photograph, in fact there are several.

(Ms. Edwards' most recently exposed what appears to be a tiny missile in a photograph of a New York sunset at the exact time of the TWA 800 tragedy.)

Ms. Edwards made it clear that her multi-stage "enhancement process takes the image to its most critical viewing size without distorting the objects in question." Below, is her first enhancement of the NASA Apollo 16 photograph...

This first enhancement (above) is remarkable in itself in that there are apparently four clearly strange and unusual 'objects' or anomalies in the Lobachevsky Crater.

Item "A" demonstrates a strange white rectangular shape along the ridge of the crater rim and includes an unusual shadow below and to its right.

Item "B" appears to be a spectacular 'spire' soaring perhaps hundreds of meters straight up from the lunar surface and standing next to what appears to be a rectangular shadowed hole or depression running from its base out to the right.

Item "C" smaller but odd, sits in the bottom of the small valley or ravine below the crater rim.

Item "D" is set apart from the other objects and projects an extraordinary and bright reflective surface.

Here is Ms. Edwards' close-up enhancement of three of the subject areas.

Item "A", the ridge-top on the left, draws immediate attention because of its stunning line-up of round protuberances. These appear to be an integral part of the white colored area or cap on top of the ridge. These black, holed objects are lined-up in such a way as to provoke images of large 'ventilation' or exhaust stacks as might be seen on an ocean liner or large industrial plant...only much larger. These objects seem anything but a trick of light and shadow. A spectacular formation. Evidence of volcanism? Part of a major project or operation? What is it?

Item "B" presents what appears to be a dazzling image rising straight up from the lunar surface many hundreds of feet into the void of space. Are we witnessing this tower-like object being hit by the sun's rays and appearing to be thereby illuminated....as one would expect a piece of crystal to do if struck by the sun in this fashion? Or, is the entire 'tower' simply some type of photographic anomaly? If real, it is a stunning artifact...a crystal lunar obelisk? A construct of ET technology somehow linked to the bizarre ridge-top 'vent' pipes above on the crater rim? A part of a mining or excavation operation directly related to the dark, shadowed surface depression next to it?

Item "C", at the bottom of the ravine below the ridge, smaller, but seemingly also rising up out of the lunar soil to pose mute questions that we can only ponder.

Maximum Object Enhancement

Item "A". Again, this is an absolutely stunning display of?

A long series of ridge-top holes or openings or vents?

What are they?

Evidence of ancient volcanism?

The results of some type of post asteroid impact heat release?

Are they intelligently devised and part of an operational base and installation?

Funnels to carry some gaseous emission out from deep below?

Almost like Lunar 'coral'. What do you think?

Item "B" presents itself as major enigma. Think about it...

Item "C". Smaller 'spire' like item.

By the way Dr. Fiebag has not openly described his discoveries as necessarily representing an extraterrestrial artifact on the lunar surface but makes it clear that he cannot rule that possibility out.

Item "D" is very much its own enigma. Sitting well away from the other primary anomalies, this small item puts out a distinct shadow and shape and has further been enhanced by Ms. Edwards as displayed in the small inset in the lower right corner of the picture. Again, what do you think??

Lobachevsky 'Excavation' or 'Shadow'

Recently Imaged By Clementine

Courtesy NASA and Steve Wingate

Where is the 'tower' next to the 'excavation' in the recent Clementine photographs of Lobachevsky?

Was it simply a defect in the original Apollo 16 photograph? Hardly likely.

Then where did it go?

Was it removed when it's task was completed?

Analysis of the 'excavation' anomaly area suggests the shape of the crater appears to have changed noticeably from the time of the Apollo picture more than 20 years earlier.

Could this apparently different lunar terrain texture have resulted from a major excavation and/or mining operation which entered into the side of the crater rim? Or, is this dark area all just a 'lava flow' as NASA states?

Here is a nice conspiracy video as well...http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-9075306542842977658&hl=en-GB