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Jesus 'died on Friday, April 3, 33AD'


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#16    ealdwita

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:43 PM

It was about Easter time, if I remember rightly.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:08 PM

View Postnephesh, on 28 May 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

... Even if the date is accurate, taking into consideration all other factors (leap years, lunar verses solar years, julian against gregorian calendars and so on) does it really prove anything? ...
***>>> I personally was attempting to show that it is quite possible that Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday.



... why there was an earthquake in the first place? And it doesn't explain why there was a darkness according to the Gospel of Matthew `from the sixth to the ninth hour.` Nor does it explain how in an earthquake area that the curtain that divided the holiest area of the temple was torn in two.
***>>> My personal view? The above were supranatural events.






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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:09 PM

Does this even matter?  Nitpicking to the Nth degree and for what?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:16 PM

View PostWinter Summer, on 28 May 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Does this even matter?  Nitpicking to the Nth degree and for what?
Well, it does matter if one accepts Scriptures as fact. That said, according to Scriptures Jesus stated he would be "in the grave" three days and three nights. If Jesus was placed in the tomb on Wednesday evening (before sunset), then to fulfil his statement, Jesus was resurrected at the same time (before sunset) on Saturday evening.

And that is why this point seems important to me.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:18 PM

Ref "the darkness which came over the land",can they figure out when an eclipse or partial eclipse happened in that part of the world,tie that in with an earth tremor,not a full earthquake,and that just maybe the answer,also bearing in mind that the religion in that part of the world was probably Jewish,as the Christians were still in a minority,then the talked of Sabbath would have been Jewish,and Xmas and Easter wern't yet invented.Does that make sense? or am I just yakking !


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:22 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 28 May 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

Ref "the darkness which came over the land",can they figure out when an eclipse or partial eclipse happened in that part of the world,tie that in with an earth tremor,not a full earthquake,and that just maybe the answer,also bearing in mind that the religion in that part of the world was probably Jewish,as the Christians were still in a minority,then the talked of Sabbath would have been Jewish,and Xmas and Easter wern't yet invented.Does that make sense? or am I just yakking !
It is not possible for an eclipse to occur at the time of the full moon. At the time of the Passover it's always full moon.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:23 PM

Wonder if somebody factored the additional days in that were not counted when the calendar switched from Julian to Gregorian....

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:25 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 28 May 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

Wonder if somebody factored the additional days in that were not counted when the calendar switched from Julian to Gregorian....
Not relevant to Passover, which always was and is at the time of the full moon. :tu:


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:29 PM

Has anybody asks the Archbishop of Armagh what he thinks?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:32 PM

View PostKarlis, on 28 May 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Not relevant to Passover, which always was and is at the time of the full moon. :tu:

not quite, as we have 11 days, which then could have been the previous full moon or the next full moon as it has a 29 day cycle.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:35 PM

View Postealdwita, on 28 May 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

Has anybody asks the Archbishop of Armagh what he thinks?
What is the relevance concerning the Archbishop of Armagh?


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:38 PM

View PostKarlis, on 28 May 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

What is the relevance concerning the Archbishop of Armagh?

He's got a reputation for dates, hasn't he?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:38 PM

View PostKarlis, on 28 May 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

It is not possible for an eclipse to occur at the time of the full moon. At the time of the Passover it's always full moon.
  Ok friend but we are talking about afternoon/evening,and can we confirm it was Passover time ?,as it would appear from religeous scripts that the skies darkened,for about 3 to 4 hours,unless of course it was a massive storm.cheers

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:43 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 28 May 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

not quite, as we have 11 days, which then could have been the previous full moon or the next full moon as it has a 29 day cycle.
Check your facts Q. :tu:
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 04:53 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 28 May 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

Ref "the darkness which came over the land",can they figure out when an eclipse or partial eclipse happened in that part of the world,tie that in with an earth tremor,not a full earthquake,and that just maybe the answer,also bearing in mind that the religion in that part of the world was probably Jewish,as the Christians were still in a minority,then the talked of Sabbath would have been Jewish,and Xmas and Easter wern't yet invented.Does that make sense? or am I just yakking !

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