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[Sir Wearer of Hats]

well none may know the date and time - presumably thst also includes little grey men with microwave wheat patterning devices.

[laver]

Wearer of Hats, on 07 January 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

well none may know the date and time - presumably thst also includes little grey men with microwave wheat patterning devices.

'None may know the time and date'  - why?
Maybe because it will depend on when we as humans put 2 and 2 together and make 5 ?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

why will none knoe the date and time? Jesus said so, it's good enough for me

[laver]

Wearer of Hats, on 07 January 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

why will none knoe the date and time? Jesus said so, it's good enough for me

But Jesus talked about the 'End of Time'  and told us there was a 'secret meaning' in the churches he chose for the Book of Revelations a secret meaning which may now be decoded so, if so...... this may be a time of Revelation ?

[chopmo]

HAHAHA I nearly busted out a rebuttle to comments but then I realised the topic pretty much states Jesus explains Crop Circles.

[TheSearcher]

laver, on 07 January 2013 - 10:27 PM, said:

But Jesus talked about the 'End of Time'  and told us there was a 'secret meaning' in the churches he chose for the Book of Revelations a secret meaning which may now be decoded so, if so...... this may be a time of Revelation ?

I thought that The Seven Churches of Revelation, are seven major churches of Early Christianity and in this context refer to the community of Christians living in each city and not merely to the building or location itself.

[laver]

TheSearcher, on 08 January 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

I thought that The Seven Churches of Revelation, are seven major churches of Early Christianity and in this context refer to the community of Christians living in each city and not merely to the building or location itself.

The mystery of 7 is a real mystery and a challenge
We are told that in the Book of Revelations

'Here is the secret meaning of the 7 stars which you saw in my right hand,
and of the 7 lamps of gold: the 7 stars are the angels of the 7 churches
and the 7 lamps are the 7 churches.' ( Chapter 1 verse 20 )

So there is a secret in the 7 locations chosen by Jesus that we clearly have to find.
We would not have been told that there was a secret if we were not meant to find it.
It is a challenge.
Find the secret meaning and reveal what it is
That must be the purpose of the Book of Revelations
Can anyone tell when this will happen?

Probably not, it will just depend on human endeavour and curiosity
And possibly luck
But at some time the mystery would be solved

The mystery has, beyond all reasonable doubt, now been solved
It emerges that these churches are part of an ancient design of landscape geometry
which was highlighted by Jesus and Mary of Magdala
The geometry aligns many ancient sites of the Holy Land and elsewhere
but the proof of this is provided by the 7 church locations which as stated are lamps
that show the way. But what does this mean?
In Genesis the 7th day of creation is Holy- a time to reflect on past events....

[Karyotype]

I  will believe the crop circles are real and made by aliens sending humans messages, just as soon as I see one from earth on oh say half of the full moon.  If aliens really want humans to receive their message, then place it where it can be viewed by the entire planet.  Oh wait, I forgot we are talking about an advanced race that came here thousands of years ago for the purpose of teaching humans how to stack rocks.  No medical advances, nothing about sanitation, education and on and on and on .........

[Tesla II]

chopmo, on 08 January 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

HAHAHA I nearly busted out a rebuttle to comments but then I realised the topic pretty much states Jesus explains Crop Circles.

I dont think Jesus or religion had anything to do with crop circles, still UFO based phenomena.. HERE is the first recorded crop circle being made by a ET inteligence. Beyond that everything is fake. Maybe it has something to do with their propulsion technologies unfortunally i haven't witnessed any such phenomena so i cant really tell!

[laver]

chopmo, on 08 January 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

HAHAHA I nearly busted out a rebuttle to comments but then I realised the topic pretty much states Jesus explains Crop Circles.

It might be best to consider crop designs as possible spiritual messages and as such worthy of careful consideration

[Oppono Astos]

Karyotype, on 08 January 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

I  will believe the crop circles are real and made by aliens sending humans messages, just as soon as I see one from earth on oh say half of the full moon.  If aliens really want humans to receive their message, then place it where it can be viewed by the entire planet.  Oh wait, I forgot we are talking about an advanced race that came here thousands of years ago for the purpose of teaching humans how to stack rocks.  No medical advances, nothing about sanitation, education and on and on and on .........

Like the Moon idea

Way back in 1994 a group of us within the CCCS published a simple challenge to 'the Circlemakers', or indeed the Cosmic Joker; if they were using technology or subtle energy, all they had to do to prove their existence was flatten an entire field of crop, leaving a standing circle or formation - still waiting....

[laver]

Oppono Astos, on 08 January 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

Like the Moon idea

Way back in 1994 a group of us within the CCCS published a simple challenge to 'the Circlemakers', or indeed the Cosmic Joker; if they were using technology or subtle energy, all they had to do to prove their existence was flatten an entire field of crop, leaving a standing circle or formation - still waiting....

It seems wise to comment that crop circles are viewed by anyone in our world who has access to a computer and clicks to any of a number of sites and that is a very large number of people. Whether these people then dismiss the phenomena as just humans playing pranks is up to them. To issue a challenge to whatever is making these designs may be as futile as ancient people asking their deities for rain or sun or a good harvest, a child or victory in a coming conflict where their enemies are also asking their deities to intervene on their behalf.
Experience would suggest that if these deities exist they do not intervene and that mankind must be the master of its own destiny...for better or for worse.

That is why the appearance of crop designs which defy rational explanation in the way they are designed and made, and hence may be spiritual messages, is such an interesting phenomena

[TheSearcher]

laver, on 08 January 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

-SNIP-
That is why the appearance of crop designs which defy rational explanation in the way they are designed and made, and hence may be spiritual messages, is such an interesting phenomena

That's the whole problem though, they DO NOT defy rational explanation in the way they are designed and made. The method of making them is so shockingly low-tech that just about everybody with a little bit of spare time, half a brain-cell, a few mates and an idea of design, can do it.
I'll grant that some designs are more intricate and elaborate than others, but that's about it.

[laver]

TheSearcher, on 09 January 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

That's the whole problem though, they DO NOT defy rational explanation in the way they are designed and made. The method of making them is so shockingly low-tech that just about everybody with a little bit of spare time, half a brain-cell, a few mates and an idea of design, can do it.
I'll grant that some designs are more intricate and elaborate than others, but that's about it.

But THEY DO defy rational explanation! Check it out ! Yes some designs are intricate and elaborate as you say and have math and geometric messages but if you want to believe that they are just a few guys and gals having a giggle after the pub and that is your considered opinion, that is not my problem

[Oppono Astos]

laver, on 09 January 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

But THEY DO defy rational explanation! Check it out ! Yes some designs are intricate and elaborate as you say and have math and geometric messages but if you want to believe that they are just a few guys and gals having a giggle after the pub and that is your considered opinion, that is not my problem

You are expressing the viewpoint of those with a closed mind.