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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:16 AM

View PostAmbush Bug, on 02 October 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Are you suggesting that Israel deserves a free pass and universal blind eye? It's okay, they're God's people.

Yet that same book says God is no respecter of persons... what about Romans 2:10-12 or Colossians 3:23-25?
Not at all.  I'm saying they WILL BE JUDGED.  God says so in His word.  Why is it that you and others think you are more righteous than He is?  Can't you accept that there are things about His plan that we aren't meant to understand at this point?  I think not.  I think you feel that your morality supercedes all and that is just arrogance in my opinion.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:34 AM

View Postand then, on 02 October 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

I figure to be jumped over this question but I simply must ask.  If there is such destitution and poverty in the Gaza...where is all this money for inflated priced merchandise coming from?  These are significant amounts of cash that someone is spending yes?

I am not sure, aid from other countries, remittance, UNHCR, local economy revenue....? Anyway, 150,000$/day/tunnel is not a mean income and there are hundreds of them!


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:36 AM

View Postand then, on 02 October 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Not at all.  I'm saying they WILL BE JUDGED.  God says so in His word.  Why is it that you and others think you are more righteous than He is?  Can't you accept that there are things about His plan that we aren't meant to understand at this point?  I think not.  I think you feel that your morality supercedes all and that is just arrogance in my opinion.

The problem is that I , and others, do not believe in god, hence letting what I consider a fictional entity judge them doesn't work for me.



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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:37 AM

View PostStellar, on 02 October 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

The problem is that I , and others, do not believe in god, hence letting what I consider a fictional entity judge them doesn't work for me.
Especially when it concerns global politics.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 02:24 PM

A good period documentary.  I can see where nothing was rehearsed but there were a few scenes that were staged.  There was a bit of dishonesty here.  The Palestinian was a collection of semi nomadic Arab tribes so of course, they live in tents.  Something else overlooked in the film was the period in which it was filmed.  At that time, the world was still recovering from war.  You could have gone to almost any spot in the world and see the same conditions.  Populations were still displaced.  The difference being that the Palestinian predicament (sorrow) was self inflicted.  Jews were initially willing to share Israel as equals but as it still is in many Muslim nations, non Muslim religions cannot hold equal status with Allah and therefore the Mufti of Jerusalem told them to reject Israeli equality.  If the Palestinian had ignored the command to fight the Jews, we wouldn’t have the issues we do today.  There wouldn’t be a two-state solution; it would have been a dual-state solution.  I blame the same mindset that enables radicals to create insurrection over a stupid movie because the religion is not mature enough to handle ridicule of their Prophet.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:03 PM

View PostStellar, on 02 October 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

The problem is that I , and others, do not believe in god, hence letting what I consider a fictional entity judge them doesn't work for me.
Then take the bit in your teeth and get after them, man!  I only speak of what I believe.  I realize it's a minority opinion.  Bug seems to be on a crusade to educate everyone about how horrible life is for people who actually have it better than probably a third of the world's population.  His focus of course is the evil done by the 6 million Jews living in Israel.  Or maybe it's just the top 5% or something...I'm never really sure who he blames.  Point is his anger is focused on something he is powerless to change.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:52 PM

I dont understand how you can have the attitude "Let the jews do as they please. God will sort them out in the afterlife. Its all part of gods plan," yet when it comes to Iran, you feel that something should be done...

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:06 AM

View PostStellar, on 02 October 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

I dont understand how you can have the attitude "Let the jews do as they please. God will sort them out in the afterlife. Its all part of gods plan," yet when it comes to Iran, you feel that something should be done...
Ultimately it's all going to come out as it should for everyone.  But my issue is related to the FACT that Israel has not threatened to remove another nation from the face of the earth.  Iran, sadly, has done so many times.  What they do with a nuke once they acquire it will not be good for the stability of the world and only a fool would assume it to be so.  But just because the world is irrevocably headed for mass chaos and unbelieveable death on a scale unknown does not mean we should want to hasten it through stupidity.  And as I said before - if you are truly, deeply offended by what is being done in Israel then work to see them removed from the equation.  Pick a side and take a stand.

Edited by and then, 03 October 2012 - 01:07 AM.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:28 AM

You're right, they haven't threatened to remove another nation.
Palestine after all is neither threatened with being removed, or legally a nation.

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I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:53 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 03 October 2012 - 05:28 AM, said:

You're right, they haven't threatened to remove another nation.
Palestine after all is neither threatened with being removed, or legally a nation.
Just so.  And Palestine/Palestinians are not actively working on nuclear weapons technology while enriching uranium.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:47 AM

View Postand then, on 02 October 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Not at all.  I'm saying they WILL BE JUDGED.  God says so in His word.  Why is it that you and others think you are more righteous than He is?  Can't you accept that there are things about His plan that we aren't meant to understand at this point?  I think not.  I think you feel that your morality supercedes all and that is just arrogance in my opinion.

No, I am stating dispossession and population transfers is bull. Have you ever thought that the State of Israel is not part of God's plan and that it is destined to end?

That if or when the messiah comes, he will be diplomatic and peaceful, that Arab and Jew will work together, in fairness and justice. There will be no robbery or conflict. Restore the Arab Jew brotherhood that existed in Palestine before the Zionists screwed everything up.

Why do you believe God will take any side in this issue? Certainly, God would not support or hold up a corrupt system, do you believe?

"I charge thee in the sight of God, who giveth life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed the good confession; that thou keep the commandment, without spot, without reproach, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: which in its own times he shall show, WHO IS THE BLESSED AND ONLY POTENTE, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS; who only hath immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power eternal. Amen" (I Tim 6:13-16).




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