Still Waters Posted November 23, 2014 #1 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Home Secretary Theresa May is expected to announce new powers which will put psychological abuse on a par with physical violence. It will criminalise for the first time those who use controlling behaviour, as well as violence, to subject their partners to a life of misery. A person convicted of "coercive control" could face a 14-year prison sentence. https://uk.news.yaho...69.html#JOMOD0M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taun Posted November 23, 2014 #2 Share Posted November 23, 2014 While I applaud the intent... I really think this is going to turn into a nightmare of "definitions"... I fully expect to hear about someone being put behind bars for many years, because they raised their voice, or said "no" once too often ... This will not end well... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 23, 2014 #3 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It says "those who use controlling behaviour, as well as violence", the use of violence is already a criminal offense and in many cases the two here go hand in hand. "The police tend to just deal with the incident that happened that day, rather than looking at the totality of the behaviour often going back many years." https://uk.news.yahoo.com/reforms-emotional-abuse-illegal-060128669.html#agUvX6k They can only look back from the day they are told about it, they can not look at something unless they know.....but does this include emotional abuse without the violence being investigated, which is another story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted November 23, 2014 #4 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I am sure there are also many men out there subjected to "psychological abuse" from their partners - yet no mention is made of this. That is an error IMO. There are whole groups of women out there subjected to "controlling behaviour" (certain Religious groups come to mind) but will almost NEVER report such things because they are indoctrinated from birth into believing that it is correct and "normal". This is where the "moral deficit" is in the Western World. Lifelines are thrown to westernised women, who are much more likely to respond to such initiatives, yet... a massive group of people (mostly women) are being overlooked because of Politically Correct viewpoints. Surely, if it is now being Criminalised it does not need a complaint from the person being Psychologically abused? What does this really mean? Members of certain Religious groups are exempt from these new laws because their indoctrination is complete. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 23, 2014 #5 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I am sure there are also many men out there subjected to "psychological abuse" from their partners - yet no mention is made of this. That is an error IMO. There are whole groups of women out there subjected to "controlling behaviour" (certain Religious groups come to mind) but will almost NEVER report such things because they are indoctrinated from birth into believing that it is correct and "normal". This is where the "moral deficit" is in the Western World. Lifelines are thrown to westernised women, who are much more likely to respond to such initiatives, yet... a massive group of people (mostly women) are being overlooked because of Politically Correct viewpoints. Surely, if it is now being Criminalised it does not need a complaint from the person being Psychologically abused? What does this really mean? Members of certain Religious groups are exempt from these new laws because their indoctrination is complete. Many men are mentally abused, over many years by their wives, I take it this means unless the wife actually hits them regularly with the iron, then it will not be a criminal offense, or IF the man does go to the police for help over his mental abuse, that the police will arrest the wife, but how do they get the proof that it has been happening for years if there are no medical reports of violence, do they ask the neighbours what they have been hearing? I can understand if this is to encourage people to come forward who are emotionally being abused, but when do you go with enough evidence for it to stand up in court as not just a domestic or does someone have to endue it for years first before it can be classed as a case? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skookum Posted November 23, 2014 #6 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Really there is only one way to stop abuse both mental and physical. You need to get out. I was both verbally and physically abused in a marriage as a man. I had to leave, I lost everything but it was the only way. After a broken eye socket I found little help or sympathy from the police. I cannot imagine trying to prove I was psychologically abused. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenceMinisterMishkin Posted November 23, 2014 #7 Share Posted November 23, 2014 *FACEPALM* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spud the mackem Posted November 23, 2014 #8 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Does watching Coronation Street , Eastenders , and Ant & Dec , count as mental abuse. No Man should have to face this torture . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted November 23, 2014 #9 Share Posted November 23, 2014 While I applaud the intent... I really think this is going to turn into a nightmare of "definitions"... I fully expect to hear about someone being put behind bars for many years, because they raised their voice, or said "no" once too often ... This will not end well... Curing the abuse problem present in our society is easy. When the kid grows up and commits a criminal offence give the parents the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted November 23, 2014 #10 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Unless caught in the act or on tape, how do you prove "emotional abuse"? It's not like you can check for bruises... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 23, 2014 #11 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Unless caught in the act or on tape, how do you prove "emotional abuse"? It's not like you can check for bruises... i suppose the only way would be to ask your doctor for depression tablets, tell them why you need them and keep a record of the years you have been on them and why exactly....but really? would a doctor keep prescribing without recommending outside help? Its bad enough detecting and proving a child is being emotionally abused, and we know there is help there, but for an adult?? I really do not know! But the article does say " controlling behaviour, as well as violence", so i think Ms May needs to clarify what she actually means ..... even if its to guide the lawyers what to do, let alone when the police actually take action.....without putting the "controlled" person at risk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xYlvax Posted November 23, 2014 #12 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Knowing first-hand how tormenting emotional abuse can be on a person and those around them, I admire the idea.. If it comes into play though, there needs to be rules into play that will prevent people from abusing this. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted November 24, 2014 #13 Share Posted November 24, 2014 well lets see how many families are now hauled to court for arranged marriages then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 24, 2014 #14 Share Posted November 24, 2014 well lets see how many families are now hauled to court for arranged marriages then.. This will never happen. anything to do with a culture or religion will not be touched with a barge pole. If an Indian girl tries to opject to the marriage, there is a chance she will end up in 5 seperate suit cases, by then its too late for her. So they will keep shut and do as the family tell her to.........to think this actually happens in this western country is appalling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Smoke aLot Posted November 24, 2014 #15 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Another reason not to get married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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