Khamenei calls U.S. Election a Victory for Ir

[Lord Umbarger]

Khamenei calls elections a victory for Iran

Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:03am ET

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei on Friday called U.S. President George W. Bush's defeat in congressional elections a victory for Iran.

Bush has accused Iran of trying to make a nuclear bomb, being a state sponsor of terrorism and stoking sectarian conflict in Iraq, all charges Tehran denies.

"This issue (the elections) is not a purely domestic issue for America, but it is the defeat of Bush's hawkish policies in the world," Khamenei said in remarks reported by Iran's student news agency ISNA on Friday.

"Since Washington's hostile and hawkish policies have always been against the Iranian nation, this defeat is actually an obvious victory for the Iranian nation."

The Democrats wrested control of both houses of Congress from the Republicans in this week's mid-term elections, partly because of voter concern over the war in Iraq.

Khamenei, a senior cleric in power since 1989, has the last word on matters of state in Iran's complex system of Islamic rule, while the government, under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is in charge of day-to-day decision making.

"The result of this election indicates that the majority of American people are dissatisfied and are fed up with the policies of the American administration," the IRNA state news agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying.

Khamenei said military maneuvers in the Gulf this week in which Iranian forces tested new missile systems showed Iran was ready to face any threat.

But, he said: "With the scandalous defeat of America's policies in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and Afghanistan, America's threats are empty threats on an international scale."

Khamenei condemned Israel for its artillery attack on Wednesday in Gaza which killed 18 civilians, and also the "silence" of Western nations over "this great oppression".

"The daily crimes by the savage Zionists in Gaza once more prove that holding talks with this occupying regime is of no use."

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....=rss&rpc=22

It would so seem that they know that with the Dems in charge of the Congress, that Americas hands are tied and we won't be able to deal with them effectively. What is good for your enemy is always baad for you and the rogues and terrorists know which side their bread is buttered on.

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I really dont remember the Iranians doing anything to me or my country..oh they staged a little hostage crisis; in a covert weapons deal. for toe missles and f15s that's it....I feel like im in a 1984 novel and this is the 2 minutes of hate...and it never ends.

[AROCES]

The Iranians are alright. It's the ruling party that is the concern.

By the way, more congratulations are coming in for the Democrats.

- 200 Socialist member of the European parliament just hailed the Democrat victory!

- Mexican President now is happy that his countrymen can now come over here for jobs and he does not have to worry about them.

[supercar]

"This issue (the elections) is not a purely domestic issue for America, but it is the defeat of Bush's hawkish policies in the world," Khamenei said in remarks reported by Iran's student news agency ISNA on Friday.

The foreign policy of the United States is set by the President,not the Congress.

"Since Washington's hostile and hawkish policies have always been against the Iranian nation, this defeat is actually an obvious victory for the Iranian nation."

It's a victory for Democrats.

Khamenei condemned Israel for its artillery attack on Wednesday in Gaza which killed 18 civilians, and also the "silence" of Western nations over "this great oppression".

I condemn Iran for it's "silence" on the war crimes of the Iraqi insurgents.

"The daily crimes by the savage Zionists in Gaza once more prove that holding talks with this occupying regime is of no use."

So when a 18 Palestinian Muslims are killed by Israel it's a 'crime' but when hundreds of Iraqis are killed every month by other Muslims it's OK? Take look at this article from signandsight.com :

'The outrage of so many outraged people outrages me. On the scales of world opinion, some Muslim corpses are light as a feather, and others weigh tonnes. Two measures, two weights. The daily terrorist attacks on civilians in Baghdad, killing 50 people or more, are checked off in reports under the heading of miscellaneous, while the bomb that took 28 lives in Qana is denounced as a crime against humanity. Only a few intellectuals like Bernard-Henri Lévy or Magdi Allam, chief editor of the Corriere della Sera, find this surprising. Why do the 200,000 slaughtered Muslims of Darfur not arouse even half a quarter of the fury caused by 200-times fewer dead in Lebanon? Must we deduce that Muslims killed by other Muslims don't count - whether in the eyes of Muslim authorities or viewed through the bad conscience of the west? This conclusion has its weak spots, because if the Russian Army - Christian, and blessed by their popes - razes the capital of Chechnian Muslims (Grosny, with 400,000 residents) killing tens of thousands of children in the process, this doesn't count either. The Security Council does not hold meeting after meeting, and the Organization of Islamic States piously averts its eyes. From that we may conclude that the world is appalled only when a Muslim is killed by Israelis.'

http://www.signandsight.com/features/894.html

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I think you'll see that this group of democrats; will be tough on immigration..they are mainly moderates. there not flaming left wing nut jobs..the american people want to get tough on immigration.. so I think they will follow suit..I hope.

[Cinders]

Whatever...

Iran was glad as h3ll when the US invaded Iraq back in 2003 and rid of Saddam.. in a stupid unthinking way when we invaded Iraq , we did Iran a favor.

What ticks me off today is hearing / reading about the Al-Qaeda leader in Iraq, Al-Muhajer also known as Abu Ayyub al-Masri saying his crap... such an immature crazy ahole! Bush is an idiot, but this guy is a fruitcake!

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Bottom line: It's these sort of idiots that are coming from OUTSIDE the country- coming to Iraq and making it hell for Iraq to progress and move forward. There not to fight just the "infidels" but to defeat progress for Iraq. period!

Oh imagine, if ALL of Iraq was as progressive and successful as Northern Iraq.. it would tick of Syria, Iran, and others.

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I think that al qaeda threat is bush propaganda;..they are afraid the dems are gonna end the war..and cut off the gravy train...

[supercar]

I really dont remember the Iranians doing anything to me or my country..oh they staged a little hostage crisis; in a covert weapons deal. for toe missles and f15s that's it....I feel like im in a 1984 novel and this is the 2 minutes of hate...and it never ends.

The Iranians are responsible for the deaths of dozens of American soldiers:

March 6, 2006 — U.S. military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.

They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.

What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.

"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."

U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.

"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."

U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.

John Negroponte, director of national intelligence, testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on Feb. 2, saying, "Tehran's intention to inflict pain on the United States and Iraq has been constrained by its caution to avoid giving Washington an excuse to attack it."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCo...2347&page=1

[Lord Umbarger]

The foreign policy of the United States is set by the President,not the Congress.

The President can do alot of things but, if Congress does not support the action, it will be without teeth. Sort of like when we first sent troops to Iraq and the Congress voting against supplying them.

I condemn Iran for it's "silence" on the war crimes of the Iraqi insurgents.

So do I. Unfortunately, they are also the ones supplying the insurgents and many of the insurgents are from Iran itself. I would not bet on them ever condemning the war crimes.

I think you'll see that this group of democrats; will be tough on immigration..they are mainly moderates. there not flaming left wing nut jobs..

I hope that you are right. Business as usual leftwing leadership will get the U.S. into more trouble than it could ever get us out of in Iraq.

Iran was glad as h3ll when the US invaded Iraq back in 2003 and rid of Saddam.. in a stupid unthinking way when we invaded Iraq , we did Iran a favor.

Yep,they were. The first time we hit Iraq, they got a whole bunch of free fighter planes!

[StalingradK]

I'm still surprised how many people think that the Dems are going to put this country back into a Dark Age, the only thing feeding that fire is propaganda set by the Far Right Wingers.

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The Iranians are responsible for the deaths of dozens of American soldiers:

March 6, 2006 — U.S. military and intelligence officials tell ABC News that they have caught shipments of deadly new bombs at the Iran-Iraq border.

They are a very nasty piece of business, capable of penetrating U.S. troops' strongest armor.

What the United States says links them to Iran are tell-tale manufacturing signatures — certain types of machine-shop welds and material indicating they are built by the same bomb factory.

"The signature is the same because they are exactly the same in production," says explosives expert Kevin Barry. "So it's the same make and model."

U.S. officials say roadside bomb attacks against American forces in Iraq have become much more deadly as more and more of the Iran-designed and Iran-produced bombs have been smuggled in from the country since last October.

"I think the evidence is strong that the Iranian government is making these IEDs, and the Iranian government is sending them across the border and they are killing U.S. troops once they get there," says Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism chief and an ABC News consultant. "I think it's very hard to escape the conclusion that, in all probability, the Iranian government is knowingly killing U.S. troops."

U.S. intelligence officials say Iran is using the bombs as a way to drive up U.S. casualties in Iraq but without provoking a direct confrontation.

John Negroponte, director of national intelligence, testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on Feb. 2, saying, "Tehran's intention to inflict pain on the United States and Iraq has been constrained by its caution to avoid giving Washington an excuse to attack it."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCo...2347&page=1

yes I know; Iran supplies the IEDs to the shiite militias. and the Iraqi army sells them our guns and rpgs.they are also coming in from bosnia in a secret arms deal..son you dont understand US war policy..you arm all sides in the conflict to insure the war lasts...get with the program...

Edited November 10, 2006 by limited

[Lord Umbarger]

I'm still surprised how many people think that the Dems are going to put this country back into a Dark Age, the only thing feeding that fire is propaganda set by the Far Right Wingers.

Either that or very long memories.

[Pinky Floyd]

Must we deduce that Muslims killed by other Muslims don't count - whether in the eyes of Muslim authorities or viewed through the bad conscience of the west?

If Muslim nations were truly concerned with their fellow muslims, there would be muslim soldiers alongside the despised Americans helping smooth things out in Iraq-Irregardless of whether or not the initial invasion was supported. Saddam, (a brutal murderer of tens of thousands of muslims-the one who was going to systematically kill every Kurdish man, woman and child in Iraq) is gone. They won't help because they would rather see America embarrassed than to help save the lives of possibly thousands of innocent muslims. Putting Islamic soldiers from Islamic countries would have resulted in the US leaving Iraq long ago. But that couldn't be allowed to happen as it would have resulted in a 'victory' by the vile Americans and their dreaded democracy.

No. As far as the ME is concerned; the blood of every innocent Iraqi is well worth spilling as long as it results in American embarrassment.

From that we may conclude that the world is appalled only when a Muslim is killed by Israelis.'

Yes. You may conclude just that...

[odas]

The Iranians are responsible for the deaths of dozens of American soldiers:

OK, Supercar. You are reffering to Soldiers. S o l d i e r s.

What are the soldiers thinking? They are invincible? You live by the sword, you....

I am sorry, but the truth is there is no terrorism involved if the individual attacked is a soldier with a weapon. It is either him or me.

Every soldier in the world knows that ( or at least should know ).

[odas]

Putting Islamic soldiers from Islamic countries would have resulted in the US leaving Iraq

Floyd, there are muslim fighters among Americans. Either muslim Americans or muslims from other countries.

You might wanna know..?

[Pinky Floyd]

Putting Islamic soldiers from Islamic countries would have resulted in the US leaving Iraq

Floyd, there are muslim fighters among Americans. Either muslim Americans or muslims from other countries.

You might wanna know..?

Duh...

But how many? A couple hundred? I'm sure there's more than that, but obviously more are needed than what are there now.

Seriously, you know what I mean. Soldiers from Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, Indonesia, even using Islamic soldiers from India...Instead of western nations like US and the UK, which only creates animosity and distrust.

More soldiers (and moral support) from Islamic nations to quell sectarian violence and harbor peaceful talks between the Shia and the Suni is what is needed...

Not more western soldiers.

[supercar]

there is no terrorism involved if the individual attacked is a soldier with a weapon

Where did I say Iranian IEDs were terrorism? NOWHERE.

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The Iranians are responsible for the deaths of dozens of American soldiers:

OK, Supercar. You are reffering to Soldiers. S o l d i e r s.

What are the soldiers thinking? They are invincible? You live by the sword, you....

I am sorry, but the truth is there is no terrorism involved if the individual attacked is a soldier with a weapon. It is either him or me.

Every soldier in the world knows that ( or at least should know ).

What kind of logic is that? We're not at war with Iran. We're at war with terrorists. Those terrorists are also Iranians with IED's and even mroe advanced IED's as the form of shape charges.

In the end of it, those muslims terrorists are still terrorists no matter who they attack. Perhaps you should understand that?

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More soldiers (and moral support) from Islamic nations to quell sectarian violence and harbor peaceful talks between the Shia and the Suni is what is needed...

Not more western soldiers.

You seem to think that the majority of muslims in the middle east do not tow the Extremist Line....think again my friend!

[Pinky Floyd]

You seem to think that the majority of muslims in the middle east do not tow the Extremist Line....think again my friend!

I'm just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. It seems you are correct, for they would have assisted by now.

[thecreeper]

look Iran just cause the dems got control of Congress does not mean your going to get your nukes so sit down and shut up

Edited November 11, 2006 by thecreeper

[AROCES]

It's quite easy to understand that Iran thinks that things will be more in their favor or their way now. What else does it mean for Hailing the election result?

[Lord Umbarger]

look Iran just cause the dems got control of Congress does not mean your going to get your nukes so sit down and shut up

If not for the Iranian government and others of it's ilk showing their colloctive boo-tays, the dems would have gained less seats than "The New Confederate Party".

(Zero minus zero equals ?????).

[Birmingham]

This is what I worry about the most. Iran not understanding the US system. Maybe Khamenei should have sat down in front of a TV Tuesday night tuned into CNN. And then maybe he would have realized that the elected Democrats are not your grandfathers old Democrats. Most of the elected Democrats are now more moderate and conservative. And they have little or NO love for the Iranian government.

If the Iranian leadership thinks this is a green light to challenge the USA, they could be fatally wrong. In fact I will make a prediction that a confrontation with a nuke making Iran could be something that would unite the Americans (as a whole, there will be desenters) like no other issue.

[Lord Umbarger]

Most of the elected Democrats are now more moderate and conservative

If the Iranian leadership thinks this is a green light to challenge the USA, they could be fatally wrong

I do hope that you're right about both items but, I guess that time will tell. Personally, I would rather the devil we know than than "who knows a devil" but, it will shake out in the end.

I just hope that these newly elected officials will hvae the common sence to finish the job. Unfortunately, I don't think that they would be willing to increace the number of troops or let the military have a free hand to hunt down and kill the insurgents and terrorists where they live.