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[TheMacGuffin]

Here's more from Luna Cognita, with UFO films from the 16mm Data Acquisition Camera on the Apollo missions.  It was true in space that not all the UFOs were even noticed at the time the pictures were taken, but that also happens quite a bit on earth.  

They just tend to pop into certain pictures when no one is expecting it, which is why I say that continuously running cameras are the best way of getting UFO pictures.  

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 17 November 2012 - 08:35 PM.

[JimOberg]

Why do you suppose those promoting the 'unexplainableness' of such videos hide the contempory NASA studies of them from their target audience? My theory: engineered ignorance facilitates the duping.

See here:

http://www.jamesober...oonpigeons.html

[TheMacGuffin]

JimOberg, on 17 November 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Why do you suppose those promoting the 'unexplainableness' of such videos hide the contempory NASA studies of them from their target audience? My theory: engineered ignorance facilitates the duping.

See here:

http://www.jamesober...oonpigeons.html

But you keep saying that there are no NASA explanations for UFOs, although I thought all along that was your job.

[JimOberg]

TheMacGuffin, on 17 November 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

But you keep saying that there are no NASA explanations for UFOs, although I thought all along that was your job.

Since I don't recall EVER saying that, I'll have to ask you --  I know you hate this kind of cheating -- for any link where you saw me say it, even once.

[JimOberg]

TheMacGuffin, on 17 November 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Let's just put it this way, in the cases I pick I'm generally dubious of all conventional explanations.  ...

Are there ANY 'conventional explanations' on 'space UFO stories' you are not automatically 'dubious' about?

Please specify one or two, if any exist.

[JimOberg]

TheMacGuffin, on 17 November 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Here's more from Luna Cognita, with UFO films from the 16mm Data Acquisition Camera on the Apollo missions.  It was true in space that not all the UFOs were even noticed at the time the pictures were taken, but that also happens quite a bit on earth. They just tend to pop into certain pictures when no one is expecting it, which is why I say that continuously running cameras are the best way of getting UFO pictures.

On what basis do you claim 'no one [was] expecting it]' ?

Do you claim to speak for the crew and for the Mssion Cotrol operators?

Or did you just make that assertion up out of thin air or thinner vacuum?

Evidence, please?

[TheMacGuffin]

JimOberg, on 18 November 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Are there ANY 'conventional explanations' on 'space UFO stories' you are not automatically 'dubious' about?

Please specify one or two, if any exist.

Yes, I know this one wasn't a UFO but an appendage of the spacecraft.

[TheMacGuffin]

JimOberg, on 18 November 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

On what basis do you claim 'no one [was] expecting it]' ?

Do you claim to speak for the crew and for the Mssion Cotrol operators?

Or did you just make that assertion up out of thin air or thinner vacuum?

Evidence, please?

I don't know of any records where this Apollo 10 "fast mover" was noticed at the time, since it sped by so fast.  I think this was a more recent discovery by Luna Cognita.  I'm the first to admit that I never heard any mention of it before I saw that video and I have no idea what it is.




According to someone on ATS this is how it appeared in the original film.




http://www.google.co...,r:14,s:0,i:116

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 18 November 2012 - 02:25 AM.

[TheMacGuffin]

And yes, I know that Oberg was on that ATS thread, too.  He's here, he's there, he's everywhere, which is why I have always thought of him as NASA's UFO explainer-in-chief.  

Has anyone else from that organization ever spent nearly so much time on UFOs over the decades?  Not that I know of, and he never met a UFO that he didn't dislike.

[TheMacGuffin]

JimOberg, on 18 November 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Since I don't recall EVER saying that, I'll have to ask you --  I know you hate this kind of cheating -- for any link where you saw me say it, even once.

As I said, I think of you as the official UFO "explainer" for NASA, whether you acknowledge that or not.  In some cases, though, I'm not clear who it is coming up with these explanations and whether they are "official" or not.

Some said this was a piece of thermal insulation from STS 61, for example, which sounds like an oldie but a goody to me.  LOL





http://www.google.co...29,r:6,s:0,i:92

[TheMacGuffin]

Or was it something like this, which means it's one of ours?  Or was it something unknown?

[TheMacGuffin]

And who saw the flying saucers on ISS Destiny?  If that one was real, no one seems to be getting too upset about it.  



We've had that one posted on UM before, more than once.

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=193902

[JimOberg]

TheMacGuffin, on 18 November 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

As I said, I think of you as the official UFO "explainer" for NASA, whether you acknowledge that or not.  In some cases, though, I'm not clear who it is coming up with these explanations and whether they are "official" or not.

OK, so as 'evidence' you cite your own imagination.

Call me when you have something worth discussing.

[mcrom901]

TheMacGuffin, on 18 November 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

And who saw the flying saucers on ISS Destiny?  If that one was real, no one seems to be getting too upset about it.  

that isn't real....

[booNyzarC]

mcrom901, on 18 November 2012 - 04:23 AM, said:

that isn't real....

How do we know which one is fake and which one is real?

More NASA trickery?