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[seeder]

psyche101, on 17 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

My reasoning is simple. If we cannot even show which one of these man was Jesus, can the real alien please step forward?

I'm Spartacus!




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Edited by seeder, 17 January 2013 - 10:41 PM.

[psyche101]

Lord Vetinari, on 17 January 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

yay, we're back to rocks.
Do you have any views on the God/Aliens/Jesus question, Z?

I have one.

How can a species of one arise? That being God.

[Slave2Fate]

Wearer of Hats, on 17 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Ancient man wasn't an idiot.

Compared to us I'd say just uneducated, certainly not stupid.

[psyche101]

TheOtherSide1945, on 17 January 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

ok i concede. ancient man could have done everything. if so, they had advanced knowledge of engineering. they also had advanced knowledge of astronomy. why then, are they making monuments and worshipping false gods that come from the stars? why are the ancient Sumerians talking about gods using machines to alter genetics? if they are were so smart they should know that there werent gods that came from the sky. why are they making these giant structures to worship "gods?" why are they obsessed about kings being from the same blood as gods that came from the sky?

Because man is curious and wants to know. We are conscious matter of the Universe. We all have to start someplace. Religion explained natural phenomena quite satisfactorily for the time and I guess what we might call fate and organised it into something we could comprehend. This developed into religion. Sharia is still law in the middle east. We have not completely passed this phase yet. But I am sure the time will come.

[Slave2Fate]

psyche101, on 17 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

I have one.

How can a species of one arise? That being God.

Panspermia!!

No, that's not right...

Spontaneous Combustion!!

No, not that one either...



I got nothing...

[Slave2Fate]

psyche101, on 17 January 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

Because man is curious and wants to know. We are conscious matter of the Universe. We all have to start someplace. Religion explained natural phenomena quite satisfactorily for the time and I guess what we might call fate and organised it into something we could comprehend. This developed into religion. Sharia is still law in the middle east. We have not completely passed this phase yet. But I am sure the time will come.

Hopefully soon however I think it will get worse before it gets better. Darkest before dawn and all that...

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

psyche101, on 17 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

I have one.

How can a species of one arise? That being God.

In the beginning, was the word. And the word was with God, and the Word was God.
Therefore, God was written into existence. Who wrote God into existence you ask? God did. Or Jack Kirby, one of the two.

[Myles]

TheOtherSide1945, on 17 January 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

ok i concede. ancient man could have done everything. if so, they had advanced knowledge of engineering. they also had advanced knowledge of astronomy. why then, are they making monuments and worshipping false gods that come from the stars? why are the ancient Sumerians talking about gods using machines to alter genetics? if they are were so smart they should know that there werent gods that came from the sky. why are they making these giant structures to worship "gods?" why are they obsessed about kings being from the same blood as gods that came from the sky?

In most churches, there are incredibly smart people (engineers, judges, doctors, scientists).   Just because I don't believe in everything they do doesn't take away from their intelligence.

[psyche101]

Wearer of Hats, on 17 January 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

In the beginning, was the word. And the word was with God, and the Word was God.
Therefore, God was written into existence. Who wrote God into existence you ask? God did. Or Jack Kirby, one of the two.

Hmmrzz, putting on my philosophical at for a second.......

The Bible is words, and the word is indeed God, are we not trying to let us know we are responsible for our own religion in a cryptic fashion?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

psyche101, on 18 January 2013 - 02:32 AM, said:

Hmmrzz, putting on my philosophical at for a second.......

The Bible is words, and the word is indeed God, are we not trying to let us know we are responsible for our own religion in a cryptic fashion?

Or that God wrote us as well
I blame Jack Kirby personally. Kirby's God at any rate (I've the pictures to prove it!).

Edited by Wearer of Hats, 18 January 2013 - 02:54 AM.

[psyche101]

Slave2Fate, on 17 January 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

Panspermia!!

No, that's not right...

Spontaneous Combustion!!

No, not that one either...



I got nothing...

LOL, you and me both mate!

[psyche101]

Wearer of Hats, on 18 January 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

Or that God wrote us as well
I blame Jack Kirby personally. Kirby's God at any rate (I've the pictures to prove it!).

You have the pics?

God is American?

He is still a DJ I take it though?

Man, that is going to flatten a few tires................

The Middle East is going to be cheesed of at this news.

Edited by psyche101, 18 January 2013 - 05:34 AM.

[psyche101]

Slave2Fate, on 17 January 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

Hopefully soon however I think it will get worse before it gets better. Darkest before dawn and all that...

I am really hoping the darkest bit was the Thirty Years war, but your right. It seems it might take even more than another war to smash democracy and a fair shake into some heads.

Shame that. Thank the Lord for Canadian Club and Guinness. We have some civility to fall back upon.

Edited by psyche101, 18 January 2013 - 07:02 AM.

[psyche101]

seeder, on 17 January 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

I'm Spartacus!




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Just looked at it on the phone so I could see it. I cannot help it, now I have to post YT - DAMN YOU SPARTACUS!!

Edited by psyche101, 18 January 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Slave2Fate, on 17 January 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

I think they would have seen them as strange visitors surely however if an alien were to pour water from a shiny metal flask the ancients would then assume that alien must be Bill the Giver of Life (water)? That's a bit of a stretch I think.

To be quite honest, I think of course they would. Certainly in polytheistic societies, they saw that gods were responsible for everything, and they weren't above popping down from time to time to appear in person or take a hand in person. (Look at the Iliad, and that was a step or two above your basic "primitive" societies). Hopw else might they have thought of it, since in their cosmology they'd almost certainly think of the earth as being the centre of the universe, if they any conception that there might be other heavenly bodies at all?