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The real witch hunters

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters is the latest film to appeal to an audience fascination with the macabre. But witch hunters are not mere figments of Hollywood's imagination. They have their place in our own history, just a few hundred years ago.

On the night of 24 March 1645, Matthew Hopkins and John Stearne visited the home of Elizabeth Clarke in the small Essex town of Manningtree.

The 80-year-old woman, poor and with a missing leg, had the misfortune to be accused of witchcraft at a time when bizarre but damning evidence was easy for a zealous witch hunter to find.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...tory/0/21548716

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:54 PM

We used to have a cat named Pyewackett (after one of 'Mother' Elizabeth's imps). *peers fearfully through curtains at the sound of horses' hooves!*

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

View Postealdwita, on 19 March 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

We used to have a cat named Pyewackett (after one of 'Mother' Elizabeth's imps). *peers fearfully through curtains at the sound of horses' hooves!*

Pyewackett was also the name of the cat (familiar) in the Jimmy Stewart movie "Bell, Book and Candle"...


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:21 PM

Sometimes the hunter needs to be the hunted.

If all it takes is to have a mole to be accused then half the people on the planet must be witches.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:35 PM

People always talk about the Salem witch trials which only lasted one year with 33 people convicted. They totally disregard the thousands of people that were burned at the stake, over hundreds of years, as witches in Europe.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:39 PM

I find it interesting that one of the descriptors for which women were typically accused of witchcraft was a papist.

Michelle, to be honest, I hardly know anything about the Salem Witch trials.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostTaun, on 19 March 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Pyewackett was also the name of the cat (familiar) in the Jimmy Stewart movie "Bell, Book and Candle"...

Kim Novak....Yummy!

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostLady Kasey, on 19 March 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

I find it interesting that one of the descriptors for which women were typically accused of witchcraft was a papist.

Michelle, to be honest, I hardly know anything about the Salem Witch trials.

It's right up there with slavery as one of the great atrocities the US has commited. :rolleyes:


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

As a witch myself I am extremely glad that witch hunts are a thing of the past (at least in most countries).  Thousands of women (not just witches) were killed by people just pointing the finger and accusing.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 19 March 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

As a witch myself I am extremely glad that witch hunts are a thing of the past (at least in most countries).  Thousands of women (not just witches) were killed by people just pointing the finger and accusing.
  In a village in Northern England (where I am from) they still have a "Ducking Pond", where old ladies accused of witchcraft were taken.Legend has is that they were submerged in the water and if they survived 5 minutes under they were set free.Of course if the time keeper was paid £2.00 in silver,(a fortune thosedays) by relatives of the old lady, the time was considerably shortened,and they survived to be banned from the village forever.The records of these events(written by the local Vicar) is now in a museum in Durham.

Edited by spud the mackem, 19 March 2013 - 05:07 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:11 PM

View PostLady Kasey, on 19 March 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

I find it interesting that one of the descriptors for which women were typically accused of witchcraft was a papist.

Sounds fair to me.  (only joking)


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostLady Kasey, on 19 March 2013 - 03:39 PM, said:

I find it interesting that one of the descriptors for which women were typically accused of witchcraft was a papist.

Michelle, to be honest, I hardly know anything about the Salem Witch trials.

This may be of interest then, Kasey.... http://www.localhist....org/salem.html

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 19 March 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

In a village in Northern England (where I am from) they still have a "Ducking Pond", where old ladies accused of witchcraft were taken.Legend has is that they were submerged in the water and if they survived 5 minutes under they were set free.Of course if the time keeper was paid £2.00 in silver,(a fortune thosedays) by relatives of the old lady, the time was considerably shortened,and they survived to be banned from the village forever.The records of these events(written by the local Vicar) is now in a museum in Durham.

Where abouts is this ducking pond?  I'm from Leeds :)


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:31 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 19 March 2013 - 07:32 PM, said:

Where abouts is this ducking pond?  I'm from Leeds :)
  A small village North of Sunderland, but its 30 years since I was there so its probably under a new housing estate.A lot of village ponds were used as "Ducking" ponds,in the middle ages,as the people were uneducated and superstitious,and the areas were run by ruthless Lords/Earls,with their minions controlling the ordinary folk.My area was controlled by a Lord Lambton, and Lambton Castle is now a National Trust property,but the family still lives there.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:05 AM

They were all fearful folk that couldn't see past the zealous beliefs they were taught and brainwashed with since birth. The so-called witches were unfortunate victims, but a lot is unfortunate when you're dealing with an overly mislead "flock"





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