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#3121    frenat

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:15 AM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

That's all great but the passport was on the plane that collided burnt out, smashed up etc did any papers from the plane besides that one convenient passport survive heat and fore capable of weakening steel.
Did you even read my post that you quoted? IDs and credit card and even mail that was later delivered were all found from the planes.  As well as wallets and purses.  There is even a phot showing a airliner seat cushion on the road.
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View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Really all the authorities have to do is, simply show CCTV footage of terrorists boarding planes, not at ATMs etc but actual boarding, because every USA airport has CCTV footage all around the airport but especially where people board the plane. Let's see them getting on there......oh yeah that's right some of the terrorists are still alive aren't they?
You really believe they're still alive?  EVERY story of terrorists supposedly still alive, EVERY ONE, stopped after the FBI released their final list of suspect with photos on September 27th.  The evidence points to confusion with mistaken identities and similar names until the list was released.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:16 AM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

That's all great but the passport was on the plane that collided burnt out, smashed up etc did any papers from the plane besides that one convenient passport survive heat and fore capable of weakening steel.

Yes, actually...

From the NY Times, Sept 12, 2001:

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Michael Sheehan, a broker working on the 55th floor of 2 World Trade Center, moved to the stairwell when he realized a plane had crashed into 1 World Trade Center. By the time he reached the 25th floor, he could smell the fumes of fuel that had begun to filter through the ventilation systems of the two buildings.

On the street, standing in a shower of office paper and the siding from the building, he found a piece of paper. It was an airliner's itinerary, listing information about a flight from Boston to Los Angeles.

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On September 11 2002, one year Anniversary of the death of our son, we were informed that the Recovery team at Ground Zero have found the ATM Bank card of Waleed and that it will be mailed to us in Northridge. When we received it, we found it in good condition. How could a plastic card survive the fire of the terrorist attack of the Black Tuesday on the USA?

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Also from the NY Times - Dec 20, 2001:

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On Sept. 10, Donna Snyder dropped a letter into the mail. The plain white envelope was addressed to the Allegro Vacation Club in Irvine, Calif., and it contained a check for $170, the monthly payment for Mrs. Snyder's coming winter trip to Aruba. Having mailed it, she forgot about it.

Until she got it back.

On Oct. 12, it arrived inside a second envelope at Mrs. Snyder's modest white house on Main Street here, and the instant she took it out and saw it, she says, ''chills just went over me.'' It was singed and crumpled. A chunk was ripped out, giving the bottom of the envelope she had sent the look of a jagged skyline. Mrs. Snyder's lyrical script had blurred into the scorched paper. The stamp, depicting a World War II sailor embracing a woman welcoming him home, was intact.

Along with the letter was a note: ''To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy. Sincerely, a friend in New York!''

Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center.

Why not try looking for facts rather than just relying on CT garbage and willful ignorance like you seem to be doing so far.

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Really all the authorities have to do is, simply show CCTV footage of terrorists boarding planes, not at ATMs etc but actual boarding, because every USA airport has CCTV footage all around the airport but especially where people board the plane. Let's see them getting on there......oh yeah that's right some of the terrorists are still alive aren't they?

Flaunting your cherished ignorance again? :rolleyes: (edited out my comments as Frenat provided a better answer)






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Edited by Czero 101, 27 December 2012 - 03:20 AM.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:22 AM

Tanzania, Oklahoma, 9-11, all inside jobs, it's how the USA has operated for decades!

I could spend a lifetime showing you evidence but I haves life abd the 9-11 conspiracy is exhausted. Personally I don't care much about it, I'm just waiting for the next staged event by the USA.



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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:27 AM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 03:22 AM, said:

Tanzania, Oklahoma, 9-11, all inside jobs, it's how the USA has operated for decades!

I could spend a lifetime showing you evidence but I haves life abd the 9-11 conspiracy is exhausted. Personally I don't care much about it, I'm just waiting for the next staged event by the USA.

Translation: "I have nothing to counter these annoying "fact" and "evidence" things you keep throwing at me, so I'm going to ignore them and keep believing the ignorant garbage that confirms my paranoid bias and preconceived conclusions then walk away, fingers firmly stuck in my ears yeling "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" :P... "






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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:29 AM

Oh, did I mention the comedy value?  And now Lion6969 comes on the scene with his own brand.  Hey, guy, fire your writers and get new ones.  Your schtick ain't working. :no:
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:32 AM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 03:22 AM, said:

Tanzania, Oklahoma, 9-11, all inside jobs, it's how the USA has operated for decades!

It is very clear that you are making up stories.

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I could spend a lifetime showing you evidence but I haves life abd the 9-11 conspiracy is exhausted.

Mr. Reality says; you can't even provide a single second worth of evidence, which simply means that time ran out on you, or should I say, ran away.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:36 AM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Really all the authorities have to do is, simply show CCTV footage of terrorists boarding planes, not at ATMs etc but actual boarding, because every USA airport has CCTV footage all around the airport but especially where people board the plane. Let's see them getting on there.....

Okay, here you go!



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....oh yeah that's right some of the terrorists are still alive aren't they?

Nope! :no:
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:28 AM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 01:21 AM, said:

Ps, the authorities had the exact same drills training and scenario on the same day at the same time,

And, similar drills conducted before 9/11, but I guess you didn't know that.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:43 PM

View PostLion6969, on 26 December 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

Personally I think the official report for 9-11 is more of a conspiracy than those questioning it!

I think all mililtary personnel should ditch Kevlar and go for the robust material that atta's passport was made of....they'll survive bullets but also intense fires and heat etc! They will be invincible!!!

Deception is a fundamental part of military science, strategy and tactics.  Trick the enemy into thinking one thing, whilst doing another.  As old as Hammurabi.

Yet many americans see no deception involved in the events of 11 September.  All that really means is that the deception was immensely successful.

Combined with the suppression of evidence by the mainstream media since day 1, you have a very well planned (over years) and well executed False Flag operation.

Many folks understand that, other folks are unable to deal with it or see it.  C'est la vie!

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:37 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 27 December 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

Yet many americans see no deception involved in the events of 11 September.  All that really means is that the deception was immensely successful.

So when there's good evidence of a deception, then there was a deception.  When there is no good evidence of a deception, then there was a deception, just a really successful one.  Heads you win, tails... you win!  This argument could use a little more work...
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:37 PM

View PostLion6969, on 27 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

oh yeah that's right some of the terrorists are still alive aren't they?
Wrong.  They all are.  Damn, guy, keep up, will you?
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:42 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 27 December 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

Deception is a fundamental part of military science, strategy and tactics.  Trick the enemy into thinking one thing, whilst doing another.  As old as Hammurabi.

That is nothing new.

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Yet many americans see no deception involved in the events of 11 September.  All that really means is that the deception was immensely successful.

American Airlines and United Airlines are not part of the U.S. miliitary, neither is the Air Line Pilots Assocition. In fact, your deception routine has been noted by others as well. For an example, you tried to convince people that there was no wreckage at the Pentagon and at the crash site of United 93 near Shanksville despite photos to the contrary.

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Combined with the suppression of evidence by the mainstream media since day 1, you have a very well planned (over years) and well executed False Flag operation.

What false flag operation? There's nothing there to suggest a 9/11 false flag operation. :no: I think you made it up. :yes:
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:49 PM

View PostLiquid Gardens, on 27 December 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

So when there's good evidence of a deception, then there was a deception.  When there is no good evidence of a deception, then there was a deception, just a really successful one.  Heads you win, tails... you win!  This argument could use a little more work...
Ah, LG, that's the beauty of a perfect conspiracy theory.  If there's no supporting evidence then it was all suppressed and it's an automatic win.  If there's anything that could even vaguely be considered evidence in the CTists' minds then it is again a win.

Consider, if you will, all of the suppressed evidence of the assorted alien bases and the multiple subsurface levels at Groom Lake where alien tech is studied and used in designs.  There is no verifiable supporting evidence so the conspiracies involved are perfect.  It's simple once one understands the fundamentals. :yes:
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 06:53 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 27 December 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

What false flag operation? There's nothing there to suggest a 9/11 false flag operation. :no: I think you made it up. :yes:
Hmmm ... this is a new twist.  Brer Rabbit's never mentioned a False Flag operation before.  I wonder what made him change tunes.  BTW, a False Flag operation would most definitely have left wreckage at Shanksville & the Pentagon since it would support such an operation.  This places an interesting light on claims no Boeing wreckage existed at either location.
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Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:07 PM

View PostKludge808, on 27 December 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

Hmmm ... this is a new twist.  Brer Rabbit's never mentioned a False Flag operation before.  I wonder what made him change tunes.  BTW, a False Flag operation would most definitely have left wreckage at Shanksville & the Pentagon since it would support such an operation.  This places an interesting light on claims no Boeing wreckage existed at either location.

BR threw in a P700 anti-ship missile in regards to the Pentagon attack, but it seems to me he is unable to differentiate between a Boeing 757 and a P700 anti-ship missile, so let's compare the two in order to see where he is going wrong.


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