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#61    F3SS

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:38 AM

Falls right in line with Eric Holders brainwashing dream.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:40 AM

View PostEonwe, on 21 January 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

And common sense dictates that an unconstitutional law is not a law, and thus is a policy that does not have to be enforced.

Common sense is a dumb argument because it varies from person to person, state to state, region to region, etc etc. There is no universal "common sense". The final arbiter of "constitutionality" is the supreme court, not common sense. A law, must be enforced until then. Try ignoring it and you will end in jail.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:42 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 21 January 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

36 sherrifs in my state are not going to enforce the federal gun ban.

what federal gun ban? Are you living in some alternate universe?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:38 AM

View PostEonwe, on 22 January 2013 - 04:01 AM, said:

Considering the US has a higher population density than the UK

Interesting. What would make you think that?


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:52 AM

View Postninjadude, on 22 January 2013 - 05:40 AM, said:

Common sense is a dumb argument because it varies from person to person, state to state, region to region, etc etc. There is no universal "common sense". The final arbiter of "constitutionality" is the supreme court, not common sense. A law, must be enforced until then. Try ignoring it and you will end in jail.

Common sense is subjective from one person's interpretation to another, that is fair enough to say. I personally don't believe in a broad, universal definition of truth. I merely believe in a correlation of facts and intentions and the transparency regarding said facts and or intentions - based on the beliefs and or actions of individuals or social organizations that have a common theme or agenda. Yes, a law must be enforced - and as Lincoln said in his Lyceum Address when he was 28 years old, it is best for reverence to the Constitution and other laws enforced. If they are bad laws they should be re-legislated.

View PostTiggs, on 22 January 2013 - 06:38 AM, said:

Interesting. What would make you think that?

The East Coast US has 113 million people - as said from a 2010 census report, at least.

But I don't think population density was the proper term I was looking for.

Although Northern Virginia has a ridiculous population - especially Fairfax County, which has over 1 million people alone.

Really horrible traffic there. Trust me on that... Avoid Fairfax at all costs.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:59 AM

View PostEonwe, on 22 January 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:



Really horrible traffic there. Trust me on that... Avoid Fairfax at all costs.

I bet traffic laws have made it safer than not.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:16 AM

View PostEonwe, on 22 January 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

The East Coast US has 113 million people - as said from a 2010 census report, at least.


The UK has 62 million people and is slightly smaller than Oregon. They're pretty tightly packed in.

Also - the UK has pretty much always had a higher rate of violent crime than the US. Even when Guns weren't restricted.

Which is why it's misleading to point to the UK as having a high rate of violent crime and Gun control, as if one is directly related to the other.


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