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[G Donnelly]

I wonder if one of my former forum members was a red- haired giant living in a cave.

He wasn't exactly a giant but he was pretty tall and definetly ginger.

His favourite subject was elf porn and he coined the phrase" quoted for truthery".
For all you know he could be a gentle giant because he wasn't part of the troll " in- crowd".
This is why this expression isn't tainted by association.

Besides don't elves and goblins live in caves?
He could have well have been their chaperone or scribe.
Then later he reported their sexual exploits on the forum.
Not!!

Edited by Medium Brown, 17 February 2013 - 01:37 PM.

[Orcseeker]

Well these people would have been quite tall compared to those at the time, as a result could have also been an important part of society. The hair in those areas is generally black, bleaching black hair I heard makes it red. Perhaps through a ceremony or through special significance regarding their height in comparison to the general population at the time they went through a ritual that would bleach their hair and make it red.

The fact that they are mummified supports the theory of importance in those societies.

[DieChecker]

Everdred, on 14 February 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si-Te-Cah

http://en.wikipedia....irit_Cave_mummy

http://frontiers-of-...cave-mummy.html

Lovelock Cave and Spirit Cave are two sites in western Nevada that may be associated with the legend.  Lovelock Cave is a more recent site, but it's difficult to substantiate what exactly was originally found there.  Spirit Cave was better excavated and yielded the interesting find of a mummy dating c. 11.5kya.  Examiners suggested it was similar to the Kennewick Man, bearing caucasoidal features and resembling Ainu and Europeans.

That is what I found and think also.

From what I've read about Kennewick Man, the theory is that several ethnic types came over to North America at around the same time, but only the one current Native American group seems to have dominated and survived. Could easily be Ainu related people. They are noted even today for being much larger and stronger in build then the current Japanese population.

lightly, on 14 February 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

Dental model lovelock_kjeve.jpg

The teeth look larger, but the arc of the teeth appears to be very close to a normal human size. Depending on how old the jaw is, these could easily be early modern humans, who needed larger teeth for grinding courser food.

[Bavarian Raven]

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From what I've read about Kennewick Man, the theory is that several ethnic types came over to North America at around the same time, but only the one current Native American group seems to have dominated and survived. Could easily be Ainu related people. They are noted even today for being much larger and stronger in build then the current Japanese population.

This is basically my take on it too. I'm sure several different types of people (probably even people from Europe too) came to N.A. over the coarse of early human history, but only one prevailed in the end.

[Simbi Laveau]

R4z3rsPar4d0x, on 15 February 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

I heard that the red hair gene is dying out.

Where ?
There are gingers everywhere

[DieChecker]

I'd heard that the red hair gene is dying out to. Percentage-wise it is getting less and less prevalent as the generations go by. The world is moving toward dark hair, brown eyes and browned skin as the norm.

If you read about it online, it smells a lot like an Urban Myth...
http://www.google.co...iw=1396&bih=627

[lightly]

DieChecker, on 17 February 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

That is what I found and think also.

From what I've read about Kennewick Man, the theory is that several ethnic types came over to North America at around the same time, but only the one current Native American group seems to have dominated and survived. Could easily be Ainu related people. They are noted even today for being much larger and stronger in build then the current Japanese population.


The teeth look larger, but the arc of the teeth appears to be very close to a normal human size. Depending on how old the jaw is, these could easily be early modern humans, who needed larger teeth for grinding courser food.

   ah... thanks for pointing that out DC...  ( i noticed that too  but didn't know what to think of it )

[DieChecker]

lightly, on 18 February 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

   ah... thanks for pointing that out DC...  ( i noticed that too  but didn't know what to think of it )

But, most people will tell you that these could Not be early humans, since they supposedly never made it to North America. Historians would have us believe that only spear using, fire using, pelt wearing Homo Sapiens could make it to America. The spear using, fire using, pelt wearing Homo Erectus, or any other homonid, simply could not have done so. According to accepted history and the archeological record of course.

Neanderthals are now known to have had red hair sometimes, and it would not surprise me if Homo Heidelbergensis did also.

Here is a Heidelbergensis jawbone I found on Wiki... There is no scale, but the teeth size compared to the mandible look larger, like in the picture you posted. And Heidelbergensis is supposed to have been tall, relatively speaking, for an early human.


http://en.wikipedia....heidelbergensis

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Male heidelbergensis averaged about 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m) tall and 136 lb (62 kg). Females averaged 5 ft 2 in (1.57 m) and 112 lb (51 kg). A reconstruction of 27 complete human limb bones found in Atapuerca (Burgos, Spain) has helped to determine the height of H. heidelbergensis compared to Homo neanderthalensis, the conclusion was that most H. heidelbergensis averaged about 170 cm (5ft 7in) in height and were only slightly taller than neanderthals. According to Lee R. Berger of the University of Witwatersrand, numerous fossil bones indicate some populations of Heidelbergensis were "giants" routinely over 2.13 m (7 ft) tall and inhabited South Africa between 500,000 and 300,000 years ago.

http://anthro.paloma.../mod_homo_1.htm

[lightly]

Interesting DieChecker,     i guess there might have been pockets of diverse lineage somewhere along the lines that  we are not aware of?    The bunch starring in this topic could be Unsusual .    One other  sort of Undocumented statement was on the presence of 15"  sandals at  the Museum where the teeth were.