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#4231    zoser

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:28 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 14 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

Go to Google Maps and enter 32.866436, -114.385992 in the searchbar.

Just wondering what is that round thing sitting on the N-S taxiway at Yuma Proving Ground?

Edit to Add:  http://www.sott.net/...-on-Google-Maps

Can't access it on my antique Pentium 4 laptop.  Can you Snagit for me please Synch?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:29 PM

View PostbooNyzarC, on 14 November 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Keep in mind that zoser still isn't convinced about the Phoenix Flares either...


Edit:  Nevermind, he spoke for himself... :P

I'm still not convinced that zoser is being altogether objective either however I do try to give him the benefit of the doubt on occasion. ^_^

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:31 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

There is one aspect of UFOlogy that I admire and often gets overlooked. That is the desire to find out what these unknowns are. If everyone ignored the phenomena with a 'it's probably nothing' attitude we'd never know what these things are. I don't agree with the methodology used by most UFOlogists nor the propensity to project ET onto every little light in the sky however I think the phenomena is legitimate enough to warrant more attention. It also warrants a better dissemination of research results to the general public. There are still a lot of people who don't even know what atmospheric plasmas even are, let alone the characteristics they exhibit that makes them a prime suspect for some UFO reports. And who knows? There may just be that needle in the haystack out there that could lend some much needed credibility to the ETH. :tu:

I agree with a lot of what you say; however atmospheric plasma seems to me as ephemeral as ET itself.  I haven't seen any myself.  

Do you have any pics?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:31 PM

View Postzoser, on 14 November 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Can't access it on my antique Pentium 4 laptop.  Can you Snagit for me please Synch?
Can you view the link I just added to the post.
Try : http://www.sott.net/...-on-Google-Maps

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

I'm still not convinced that zoser is being altogether objective either however I do try to give him the benefit of the doubt on occasion. ^_^

I can assure you that I have a deep seated conviction that what we are seeing has no trivial explanation.  I'm not trying to be pushy or win arguments.  That's not what I am here for.  Something is going on.   The last three or four cases to me are incredible:

Yuma
Denbigh
Fraserburgh
Myrtle Beach

Serious investigation is warranted not immediate dismissal imho.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:35 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

I'm still not convinced that zoser is being altogether objective either however I do try to give him the benefit of the doubt on occasion. ^_^
I give him 10/10 for enthusiasm!

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:36 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 14 November 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Can you view the link I just added to the post.
Try : http://www.sott.net/...-on-Google-Maps

Synch that's a brilliant find well done.  Whatever it is on the runway it could well be the culprit; ET or not.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:38 PM

View Postzoser, on 14 November 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I agree with a lot of what you say; however atmospheric plasma seems to me as ephemeral as ET itself.  I haven't seen any myself.  

Do you have any pics?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:39 PM

View Postzoser, on 14 November 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Synch that's a brilliant find well done.  Whatever it is on the runway it could well be the culprit; ET or not.
I was hoping to get a "street view" but that's wishful thinking on an air base.
It almost looks like a parachute or perhaps a balloon ready for launch.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:40 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 14 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

I was hoping to get a "street view" but that's wishful thinking on an air base.
It almost looks like a parachute or perhaps a balloon ready for launch.

Here's one response on youtube:

The "Strange object" is only a Sikorsky Sky Crane. What appears as 24 blades is in fact only six rotor blades with white rotor tips tips. The illusion of extra blades is an artifact of the camera that took the picture. The orangish color at the center of the rotor disk inticates it is probably one of Erickson Air Crane's firefighting water tankers.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:42 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

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Cheers STF.  I'm happy that this is what it's claimed to be.  Although I can see how folk could get excited.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:44 PM

Interesting analysis by the youtube user.  Not sure myself:

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 14 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

Go to Google Maps and enter 32.866436, -114.385992 in the searchbar.

Just wondering what is that round thing sitting on the N-S taxiway at Yuma Proving Ground?

Edit to Add: http://www.sott.net/...-on-Google-Maps
I think I've seen that before, I think they decided it was some sort of target for calibration of satellites and/or aerial cameras, painted onto the runway.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

View Postzoser, on 14 November 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

Cheers STF.  I'm happy that this is what it's claimed to be.  Although I can see how folk could get excited.

It is equally fascinating to me as much as the prospect of alien visitation. It might just be my inner nerd however the thought of some unknown spontaneous energy that could possibly be utilized for our benefit amazes me. It has a Star Trek kind of quality to it.

Here is another image of a plasma that is astounding. :tu:

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 14 November 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

It is equally fascinating to me as much as the prospect of alien visitation. It might just be my inner nerd however the thought of some unknown spontaneous energy that could possibly be utilized for our benefit amazes me. It has a Star Trek kind of quality to it.

Here is another image of a plasma that is astounding. :tu:

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Nice pic.  If I were to ask the obvious though; how can one tell categorically that it is atmospheric phenomena?

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