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#61    Scouser

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:07 PM

I remember when my little sister was 3, my mum went the toilet and there was loads of pictures on the wall drawn on with crayons.  So my mum gave my sister a little telling off and she said that it wasn't her who did it, it was Ellie.  My mum asked who Ellie is and she said the little girl with the blue lips.

That freaked my mum right out.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 10:39 PM

View PostAgent. Mulder, on 21 June 2010 - 02:04 AM, said:

well, for one, the believer is Already biased, so they would come to that conclusion. the non believer wouldnt claim a hallucination, if they experienced it they would either be a believer, or try to deduce what it was using logic first, and examining why something happened and taking all things into account. and possibly give a more down to earth explanation.

The non-believer is also already biased.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 12:48 AM

View Postpendora, on 21 August 2010 - 10:39 PM, said:

The non-believer is also already biased.

Nope.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 01:02 AM

View PostAgent. Mulder, on 22 August 2010 - 12:48 AM, said:

Nope.

Yes.

How sad that you see bias in others and cannot see that you have any.
Oh, and simply refusing to acknowledge your own bias does not make it any less real.



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Posted 22 August 2010 - 02:00 AM

View Postpendora, on 22 August 2010 - 01:02 AM, said:

Yes.

How sad that you see bias in others and cannot see that you have any.
Oh, and simply refusing to acknowledge your own bias does not make it any less real.

I dont have any.
But what bias do you believe i have? Based on the absolute lack of any knowledge you have of me?

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:08 AM

View PostAgent. Mulder, on 22 August 2010 - 02:00 AM, said:

I dont have any.
But what bias do you believe i have? Based on the absolute lack of any knowledge you have of me?

Like I said, non-belief has its own biases. Your little "nope" doesn't change that.
I don't have to know you. Reading your posts shows it clearly.

Have a nice night Mulder.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 03:20 PM

View Postpendora, on 22 August 2010 - 03:08 AM, said:

Like I said, non-belief has its own biases. Your little "nope" doesn't change that.
I don't have to know you. Reading your posts shows it clearly.

Have a nice night Mulder.

Ah, a very nice cop out.
Youve read little of my posts, otherwise you wouldnt have bothered to spew out what you did. Nice job.
A non believer, or someone nuetral, has no bias here. Accept it.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 05:17 PM

View PostCBPsychicMedium, on 20 August 2010 - 10:35 PM, said:

Even the most skeptical person has trouble explaining how a real psychic medium for instance can be so accurate about someone they know nothing about.
I would like to see accuracy under scientific protocol. Its never happened yet, and I won't hold my breath.

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 05:42 PM

View Postpendora, on 22 August 2010 - 01:02 AM, said:

Yes.

How sad that you see bias in others and cannot see that you have any.
Oh, and simply refusing to acknowledge your own bias does not make it any less real.



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What you see as bias is people waiting for evidence and proof. Bias would be saying "No it cant be true! You cant change my mind! Meh!"

I don't believe, but proof would change my mind. Not anecdotal proof either. Such as stories from others, or TV shows with spooky music in the background.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 04:44 AM

View Postpendora, on 21 August 2010 - 10:39 PM, said:

The non-believer is also already biased.
skeptics are not "non-believers", they are more "truth-seekers".  i doubt skeptics would be on this website/forum if all they wanted to do was troll posters and forum members (and i've never seen that done here by any of the more active skeptic posters).  most of whom are NOT so biased as to say "there is not a possibility for paranormal".  we just don't openly bend over and accept every account from every tom, dick, and harry and require so undeniable evidence.  by finding rational and logical explanations for "paranormal" things, is only a process of elimination to find that one thing that leaves one scratching their head wondering whatACTUALLY was that.

i'd venture out on a limb and say, most skeptics here require more proof than some scary story someone told, or some photograph that was edited with photoshop (or that *** iphone app), or some over the top tv show with crappy acting.


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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:06 PM

Psychic experiences are a very subjective thing.

A child sees a ghost. There is no way to prove that.

I see a ghost and there is no way to prove it.

I know what I see.  

The skeptics can remain skeptical. That doesn't change the experience of seeing / hearing / sensing it.
They can call it whatever they want and convince themselves it was nothing but a physiological response or an halluciation or whatever.

To ask for proof on a subjective experience is absurd.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:35 PM

View Postpendora, on 23 August 2010 - 07:06 PM, said:

Psychic experiences are a very subjective thing.

A child sees a ghost. There is no way to prove that.

I see a ghost and there is no way to prove it.

I know what I see.  

The skeptics can remain skeptical. That doesn't change the experience of seeing / hearing / sensing it.
They can call it whatever they want and convince themselves it was nothing but a physiological response or an halluciation or whatever.

To ask for proof on a subjective experience is absurd.

I disagree. If a person is making a claim, there is nothing wrong with asking for some type of verification. If I saw something like that, I would do everything in my power to prove it real. It would be the greatest thing imaginable.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:44 PM

View PostThe Skeptic Eric Raven, on 23 August 2010 - 07:35 PM, said:

I disagree. If a person is making a claim, there is nothing wrong with asking for some type of verification. If I saw something like that, I would do everything in my power to prove it real. It would be the greatest thing imaginable.


I've been a psychic medium all my life. I'm 52. That's a long time and a lot of experiences.

What makes you think I wouldn't LOVE to prove what I see / hear / feel ??

I'd love to produce "proof" for the existence of life after death.

It's just not possible with things like seeing spirits.

If one person sees a unicorn, few would believe him.  If two people see the unicorn, the validity grows.

I can't share what I see. I can only describe it.

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:46 PM

View Postpendora, on 23 August 2010 - 07:44 PM, said:

I've been a psychic medium all my life. I'm 52. That's a long time and a lot of experiences.

What makes you think I wouldn't LOVE to prove what I see / hear / feel ??

I'd love to produce "proof" for the existence of life after death.

It's just not possible with things like seeing spirits.

If one person sees a unicorn, few would believe him.  If two people see the unicorn, the validity grows.

I can't share what I see. I can only describe it.

What abilities do you have?

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Posted 23 August 2010 - 07:57 PM

View Postpendora, on 23 August 2010 - 07:44 PM, said:

I've been a psychic medium all my life. I'm 52. That's a long time and a lot of experiences.

What makes you think I wouldn't LOVE to prove what I see / hear / feel ??

I'd love to produce "proof" for the existence of life after death.

It's just not possible with things like seeing spirits.

If one person sees a unicorn, few would believe him.  If two people see the unicorn, the validity grows.

I can't share what I see. I can only describe it.
Why not submit your alleged abilites to a universtiy for testing? If there is something real, I would feel confident they would be able to prove it.
FYI. Talking to spirtis and getting info that you would never normally have. I would at least try.

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