behaviour??? Posted July 11, 2009 #1 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Trudging gingerly across the arid sands of the Gobi desert, Czech explorer Ivan Mackerle is careful not to put a foot wrong, for he knows it may be his last. He scours the land and shifting valleys for tell-tale signs of disturbance in the sands below, always ready for the unexpected lurch of an alien being said to kill in one strike with a sharp spout of acidic venom to the face.A creature so secretive that no photographic evidence yet exists, but the locals know it’s there, always waiting in silence for its prey, waiting to strike – the Mongolian Death Worm. Read more... Pictures in OP link Thanks B??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS-One Posted July 11, 2009 #2 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Today, it is Ivan Mackerle, a self-made cryptozoologist who travels the world in search of scientific evidence that proves creatures like the Loch Ness monster and Mongolian Death Worm exist. Stopped reading here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmcnessy Posted July 11, 2009 #3 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Sounds like the big worm in star wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 11, 2009 #4 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Having initially thought that the creature might be a zoological reality, however, Mackerle has begun to suspect that the "worm" might be a psychological phenomenon, possibly caused by the extreme heat of the Gobi. "The death worm could be - I don't want to say 'hallucination' - but some sort of psychological problem," he says. With no new method for hunting the Allghoi khorkhoi, Mackerle says he has no plans to return to Mongolia but, now 62, his appetite for adventure remains as strong as ever. Next up? Mackerle is planning a trip to India, to explore temples and caves that might explain legends of a subterranean kingdom called Agharta. http://prague.tv/articles/zine/ivan-mackerle-interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueguardian Posted July 11, 2009 #5 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Stopped reading here. Technically all cryptozoologists are self made because it isn't actually a profession, though some people can be looked at as professional, it's still not looked at as an actual job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS-One Posted July 11, 2009 #6 Share Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) Technically all cryptozoologists are self made because it isn't actually a profession, though some people can be looked at as professional, it's still not looked at as an actual job. True enough. Anyone with a degree would be a biologist (or some other accredited title pertaining to the field). You'd think cryptozologists would wise up to this so they aren't instantly labeled as the quacks they are. Edited July 11, 2009 by KRS-One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted July 11, 2009 #7 Share Posted July 11, 2009 ...gosh, here I was think explicitly cryptozoological threads belong in the cryptozoologocal section! What a quaint belief! --Jaylemurph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 12, 2009 #8 Share Posted July 12, 2009 From the OP link: Only a few years ago, in 2005, a group of English scientists and cryptozoologists spent a month in the hostile Gobi desert searching for the fabled creature, and although they spoke to a number of Mongolians in the area, all of whom regaled wondrous stories of the worm, no one could verify they had seen the creature first-hand. Even still, after four weeks the team had gathered enough verbal evidence to be convinced that the worm really does exist. Lead researcher, Richard Freeman, said: “Every eyewitness account and story we have heard describes exactly the same thing: a red-brown worm-like snake, approximately two feet long and two inches thick with no discernable head or back (tail).” This brings up the question again of whether eyewitness and verbal evidence is actually scientific evidence? If a researcher has a scientific degree and background, but believes that stories are evidence that make him non-scientific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behaviour??? Posted July 12, 2009 Author #9 Share Posted July 12, 2009 From the OP link: This brings up the question again of whether eyewitness and verbal evidence is actually scientific evidence? If a researcher has a scientific degree and background, but believes that stories are evidence that make him non-scientific? Though non scientific.....It is said in ancient scriptures and as they said that verbal evidence was enough for him to be convinced about the creature....We really dont know peoples mind...lol Thanks B??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglelox Posted July 12, 2009 #10 Share Posted July 12, 2009 wow, a worm that we cant prove is alive. i think its a darn good chance its somewhere out there along with some other crazy cool things. keep looking, youl find something. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS-One Posted July 12, 2009 #11 Share Posted July 12, 2009 (edited) Seems like a tough environment for a creature of that size, especially if it really is a "worm". Keeping enough fluid to maintain hydrostatic cell pressure in a creature like that would be pretty difficult in desert conditions, you'd think. edit: If it was real. Which is isn't. edit2: Petition to rename the forum: "Ancient Mysteries & Alternative History: wow, a worm that we cant prove is alive." Edited July 12, 2009 by KRS-One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolemrock Posted July 13, 2009 #12 Share Posted July 13, 2009 with verbal evidences only? i don't think this worm exist, go here in the Philippines, ask anyone about a "tikbalang" (half horse and half human) the "sigbin" (some kind of a scarry, fast moving animal who eats charcoal) and more others and you may have more verbal evidences here that this "creatures" exist. I think it's one of the night time stories of the Mogolian parents to prevent their children from playing and exploring the dessert. "Don't go out there, there's a big worm that electrecutes and can kill you from a distance.." scary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted July 13, 2009 #13 Share Posted July 13, 2009 next thing you know we'll find legends of a sandworm and fremen riding them. Sounds a bit too much like "arrakis' to me ;-) This said, this threat should be in the Crypto section and not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARAB0D Posted July 13, 2009 #14 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Mongols drink so-called "kumys", which is a specially fermented horse or camel milk. After this thing they tend to tell the stories, of which one made its way to Soviet science fiction of 1940s, so the novel by Efremov appeared, called Olgoi-Khorhoi, describing precisely the personal encounter with this death worm. Already in the 60s mad enthusiasts were going to Gobi to catch the beast, but were catching nothing on top of a nice desert tan or bad cold. Efremov was translated in a couple of dozen languages(even in Mongolian), so the disease became spread worldwide, and now every Mongol knows there is a worm of death in the sands, which was somehow missed in Genghis-khan times. Easy to check - go to Mongolia and ask a question, then follow the description, it would be a replica of Efremov's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglelox Posted July 13, 2009 #15 Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) i wont say it does exist but, i think it is so possible that there is a red poisonous worm that we haven seen much. it could have migrated, maybe died out, poss never lived. but its a fricken worm, how hard is that to believe possible. maybe its not a worm but snake that was different somehow. compared to a lot of the other things i read about on this site the worm i would give a good chance... possible Gravoid sighting Edited July 13, 2009 by Eaglelox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggK Posted July 13, 2009 #16 Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) wow, a worm that we cant prove is alive. i think its a darn good chance its somewhere out there along with some other crazy cool things. keep looking, youl find something. lol Man, that guy is 62 years old. Anything 'crypto-' has to with some kind of external sign. Well, he has a couple. Take some water. Speaking of water, do you think the Gobi desert was once the ocean? Go to the bottom of the ocean miles down and you'll probably find some of those worms. That is if they haven't drowned yet. Edited July 13, 2009 by greggK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlis Posted July 23, 2009 #17 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Here is another article on the same subject: The Truth Behind the Mongolian Death Worm It has much more detail than the OP, plus more photographs from an expedition -- plus -- a possible explanation as to what exactly this worm may be. Link to story http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featu...eath-worm/13543 Anyway, it's an enjoyable read, Karlis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearcher Posted July 23, 2009 #18 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Seriously,the Mongolian Death Worm, name that makes you expect a fierce creature and it gets killed by some guy who throws a rock at it? You're sure the name is correctly translated from Mongolian? Sounds to me like it should be 'Mongolian death by rock worm" rather. “There was the friend of park ranger who had seen the Death Worm three times: the first in 1965 when he saw its head poking out of a hole in the sand; the second the next year when he saw one eating a mouse. The third time was in 1972, when he actually killed a worm by throwing a rock at it, but this time some Russian scientists who were researching snakes in the area took the body away. So it’s likely that a Death Worm specimen today lies forgotten in the vaults of some Russian museum, just as there are other unknown species preserved in museums around the world.” The article is a nice read, till we go over to the "dragon in well" part, what the hell does that have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Area Posted July 23, 2009 #19 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Seriously,the Mongolian Death Worm, name that makes you expect a fierce creature and it gets killed by some guy who throws a rock at it? You're sure the name is correctly translated from Mongolian? Sounds to me like it should be 'Mongolian death by rock worm" rather. I thought they were called Graboids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black..Death Posted July 31, 2009 #20 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I Wonder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adramaleck Posted July 31, 2009 #21 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hmm.. firstly, it's nieve to say this thing doesn't exist just because it hasn't been properly catalogued. When you blink does the whole world disappear for a second? secondly, we already have creatures catalogued that can produce an electrical shock powerful enough to kill an adult human - eg the electric eel or knifefish. Some beetles have acidic defences such as this one is described to have. keep in mind im not saying it DOES or DOES NOT exist, rather it COULD exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatic Annasawzi Posted July 31, 2009 #22 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Heh, death worms, sounds like Frank Herbert was actually a Prophet, instead of a historian/writer, this makes Eurepodes(I think this is who said it), 'that Historians are Prophets in reverse.', then it would make even more sense, that instead of seeing the future he saw our ancient past......Hmmm, I feel Orion Von Koch returning. Then it would mean Dune was our past, not our future. EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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