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[Beckys_Mom]

Xetan, on 18 November 2012 - 07:04 AM, said:

I'm not excusing anyone.

No?

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  Oh? You don't think TV "dumb's" people down?

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Beckys_Mom, on 16 November 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

You're attempt to blame an object  for dumbing people down  is weak and a cop out..  
Bottom line - You cannot blame mere objects and tools  for anyone failing...

You reply with...

Xetan, on 16 November 2012 - 11:21 AM, said:

Actually, I can. The television, with its flashing colors and loud noises, is immediately attractive to our brains. It has all the necessary stimuli to completely rip human attentions right out of reality and convince them to sit there, staring, for hours, with drool hanging from their lip. It is designed to do just that.

Seems to me, you like to blame the object for their failings and not themselves   That logic alone is a dumb excuse. The people who sit for endless hours watching, have themselves to blame, it's a matter of sheer laziness  

There is nothing more to say here, it's going in circles . I no longer hold an interest in anything more you have to add.

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 18 November 2012 - 01:36 PM.

[Nathan DiYorio]

I'd like to add that I never had interest in anything you ever had to say

[Beckys_Mom]

Xetan, on 18 November 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

I'd like to add that I never had interest in anything you ever had to say

I will be loosing lots of sleep over that

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 18 November 2012 - 02:18 PM.

[Render]

Damn it...I was gonna say something along the lines of "ppl aren't getting less smart, yadayada".
But then i read the comments Xetan made and now im forced to review my point..and I think the researchers should add "Ppl are less intelligent and more douchebaggy to cover up their dumbness."


Anyway, I don't think humanity in general is dumbing down, but I do think many are less challenged. Which can lead to a path where you force yourself, perhaps unconciously, to dumb down to cope with existing. Dead end jobs aren't really helpful for example.

[Mikami]

Jesus Christ! what happened here?.

[Mikami]

Also.. I do agree with Render both of his points

[Purplos]

I believe people's intelligence levels are becoming more divided. The drooling ignoramuses are getting dumber as they let technology replace thought, memory and critical thinking. On the other end of the spectrum, people find ways to use technology to further intellectual pursuits and share them across communities.

One problem I see in teenagers (admittedly in a small local and online sampling) is a lack of understanding "how" things work or come to be. They can find an answer to anything on Google quickly, but don't understand why it is the answer.

In the general population, I see an overwhelming lack of curiosity or interest in figuring things out without being told how to do it (from TV, media, internet, their friends, etc.)

Edited by Purplos, 19 November 2012 - 07:56 PM.

[majin nemesis]

well, there seems to be more idiots nowadays then there was before so we probably are getting less intelligent

Edited by majin nemesis, 20 November 2012 - 02:38 AM.

[The Unseen]

Could be,Has anyone seen who we elected to office?Those people could be less intelligent Heck were all being dumb down by the government,Education in this country is a joke.we used to be number one then we went down hill fast,But if you look at Mexico ,,now there is a country that does not care about it's own people but they are not that far behind us,They might have already past us. in Education. It's like we don't care what we teach our youthmThe youth today is full of disrespect and like Taun said we have lost our goals/focus on what we need to.

[jroper]

we are all programmed anyway i dont watch tv theres to much bull**** on it and with all the **** in our foods drinks we probably are going dumber but who knows eh

[jroper]

also with the new phones these days they more or less write the whole message out for you thats stopping us from thinking and learning

[ealdwita]

"Shaddup! You is tawkin' rubbish, innit!"

[Zaphod222]

spud the mackem, on 12 November 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

I wouldnt bother going to Stanford if thats all they can come up with,total rubbish again.You have to be more and more intelligent to survive in this modern day era.

Absolutely not! You only have to intelligent enough to find your way to the welfare office. And a Neanderthal could manage that.
Fact is that in modern societies, the less intelligent reproduce more than the intelligent. And reproduction is the the future. Ironically that means that genetically, the most advanced societies are moving backward.

I think maybe you mistake "material success" with "evolutionary success". But those two are completely different. The rich executive with two spoilt kids might be wealthy today, but the slum dweller with 20 kids paid for by social security is the one who is evolutionary successful.

[spud the mackem]

Zaphod222, on 23 November 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

Absolutely not! You only have to intelligent enough to find your way to the welfare office. And a Neanderthal could manage that.
Fact is that in modern societies, the less intelligent reproduce more than the intelligent. And reproduction is the the future. Ironically that means that genetically, the most advanced societies are moving backward.

I think maybe you mistake "material success" with "evolutionary success". But those two are completely different. The rich executive with two spoilt kids might be wealthy today, but the slum dweller with 20 kids paid for by social security is the one who is evolutionary successful.

  Kids of today are not taught properly,for example,they are allowed to go into Maths exams with a CALCULATOR,why cant they use their brains and work out problems without aids like this,any noddy head can press the buttons to get an answer.I asked a new starter at work to work out how many cubic feet were in a cargo 24ft long, 11ft high,6ft wide, he asked me if he could borrow a calculator,so I gave him a pen and pencil,and said "you already have one sitting on top of your neck". He couldnt work it out, then he accused me of harrassment.He lasted almost 5 days then packed the job in and became a Truck driver. I gave him a good reference because I felt sorry for him.

[Zaphod222]

spud the mackem, on 23 November 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Kids of today are not taught properly,for example,they are allowed to go into Maths exams with a CALCULATOR,why cant they use their brains and work out problems without aids like this,any noddy head can press the buttons to get an answer.I asked a new starter at work to work out how many cubic feet were in a cargo 24ft long, 11ft high,6ft wide, he asked me if he could borrow a calculator,so I gave him a pen and pencil,and said "you already have one sitting on top of your neck". He couldnt work it out, then he accused me of harrassment.He lasted almost 5 days then packed the job in and became a Truck driver. I gave him a good reference because I felt sorry for him.

All that has nothing to do with the topic, which is intelligence. The fact is, modern advanced societies have turned human evolution on its head, so if this continues humans will get less in intelligent, and not more intelligent over the course of many generations. What an individual learns at school at any moment is irrelevant to that.