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R4z3rsPar4d0x, on 29 November 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

I guess my question would be Is WHY would aliens come here and show ancient man how to do these things.  I mean it makes no sense to me and If there that advanced and needed something from this planet why wouldnt they just take it? Why waste there time teaching and showing us things. It just doesnt make any sense to me

I'm not sure it was a teaching function as much as an establishing function.  The best I could do to summarise it in a short post (the theory I mean) is that things have gone wrong on this planet with human development many times in it's history.

The bible itself talks about the Gods coming down to earth and procreating with the indiginous human stock.  Other historical writings from around the world allude to the same idea.  

So to correct the imbalances visitations have been made; some may have improved the local situation, others perhaps made it even worse.  Either way what it suggests to me is that the local planetary system places certain requirements upon the human stock here.  When it falls below standard, attempts are made to correct it.

Other evidence points to where cultures have developed in certain ways there has been a harvest.  The saying 'when the pollen is ready, the bees arrive' may allude to this.  The Mayan culture that apparently disappeared with no trace of ancestors being one example.

This subject interests me a great deal.

Edited by zoser, 30 November 2012 - 05:22 PM.

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nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

Then what do you think God could be other than an alien if he exists? The only other option is a native of Earth so you need to try explaining HOW a being could be native to a planet he created. WHEN you can't we will STILL be left to believe he would have to be an alien, no matter how you try to justify your inability.

What could God be other than an alien if he exists?  How about exactly as he is depicted in the Bible;  A giant machine; The Earth itself?    I can come up with examples, can you or is your mind too closed?

If God exists with all the things he is supposedly able to do, it would put him well above the most advanced race there could be so he wouldn't be an alien as you have referred to.  If God created the Earth, how is he an alien to it?  He would  be no more of an alien to the Earth than you would be to a house or structure you built.

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Slave2Fate, on 29 November 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

The Egyptians used a device like this to drill holes:





I don't see any reason why those at Puma Punku couldn't have used something similar.

Slight problem; granite and diorite is harder than copper.

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nopeda, on 29 November 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

Rontius Finius map, Mercator map and Perry Reese maps are the ones I've heard about. It's doubtful anyone in this froum has somehow debunked them, or whatever...

The Perry Reese map has never been debunked but the Piri Reis map has.

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synchronomy, on 30 November 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

Stop it.
You are screwing me up in the head.
You say they were here and then buggered off...then why are you leaping to the ETH everytime plastic bags, bugs, and bowls take flight??
"Bags, bugs and bowls"...it's all sounding like Dr. Seuss
"One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish"

Why are you saying ET's have left

In ancient times I mean; the strains that are currently buzzing around the planet may well be a different lot for all I know.

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psyche101, on 29 November 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

If one has doubts, the thing is you can go to your local Bookshop and buy something like this



Or of course on Amazon or something LINK

And have a go at it.

I brought home a piece of Pine from a job site once to mess with it, and carved myself a shark. To this day nobody believes I did it myself, except my wife and best mate who saw me do it intermittently. It can be pretty frustrating. It's not a secret so there is nothing stopping anyone from tying it out. That's the beauty of a skeptical outlook, you can have a go yourself, and see what you can make of it.

Interesting read here, but I do not think it answers your questions.

They would believe you if you said aliens carved it..

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Quaentum, on 30 November 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

Yet the banal explanations are the ones, that in the long run, are supported as more information and evidence are unearthed so to speak.

And they are???????????

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zoser, on 30 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

Slight problem; granite and diorite is harder than copper.

They key ingredient is the sand!
Yes, the copper would wear down, but it would be replaced as needed.
Another key factor is the fact that the builders had a huge advantage on their side...TIME.

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Quaentum, on 30 November 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

If it can ever be determined what it was made for, it will answer the why.  Imagine an engineer 10,000 years from now mulling over a granite counter top, trying to figure out what it's purpose was and why it was made and coming to the conclusion that because the information was lacking it must have been made by aliens.

If you can tell me how this was done and why; I'll listen I promise.  All I would ask is that it you don't know, say so.  Anything else is dishonest and deceptive.

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Babe Ruth, on 30 November 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Joe claims this, Tom claims that, and Harry claims something else.

Who is a common man like myself supposed to believe?

Don't know, but at this point the answers to the questions raised by AA are not particularly persuasive.

I don't know if you've read Hancock's book, and it's been a good year since I have, but he includes a letter from some branch of the DoD confirming that modern data supports the geographical features shown on the ancient map.

Perhaps you can try to believe the ones that are backed by logic, common sense and evidence.  Make critical thinking your friend and you can never go wrong.

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synchronomy, on 30 November 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

They key ingredient is the sand!
Yes, the copper would wear down, but it would be replaced as needed.
Another key factor is the fact that the builders had a huge advantage on their side...TIME.

That's an understatement.  Copper is a known soft metal  I don't believe that the method indicated would be capable of drilling perfect holes in red granite.  It would use too much copper and go off center and be elongated.  The holes are too perfect.

Edited by zoser, 30 November 2012 - 05:36 PM.

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Quaentum, on 30 November 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Perhaps you can try to believe the ones that are backed by logic, common sense and evidence.  Make critical thinking your friend and you can never go wrong.

This reply is pure rhetoric.  Please explain what you mean.

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zoser, on 30 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

In ancient times I mean; the strains that are currently buzzing around the planet may well be a different lot for all I know.

Thank God.
Clifford Stone, Disclosure Project witness, says they're are "57 varieties".
Personally, I think it may be a wee bit of an exaggeration.

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zoser, on 30 November 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

That's an understatement.  Copper is a known soft metal  I don't believe that the method indicated would be capable of drilling perfect holes in red granite.  It would use too much copper and go off center and be elongated.  The holes are too perfect.

You're speculating.  Applying the AA hypothesis.  There lots on Google about this.
Try searching "ancient copper tools and drills"

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zoser, on 30 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

In ancient times I mean; the strains that are currently buzzing around the planet may well be a different lot for all I know.

I just blew a mouthful of my tuna salad sandwich all over the monitor.
Sorry, but had to share what made me laugh...
Bugs go buzz.

...and I think you did that deliberately