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#2071    Heaven Is A Halfpipe

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

View PostCakeOrDeath, on 29 March 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

@ B Jenkins, I see what your saying, and kind of agree, if someone truly does possess such power they probably aren't volunteering their service to Sakarai via interwebs, so point taken.  However, if you have been a forum resident here for any length of time, you have probably seen the countless threads about people "summonin spirits" "calling and recording ghosts" and of course my favorite, "warning those without proper skillz who try to summon spirits"  via ouija ™ game boards.

Also, in case you missed it Sakari, thanks again for exposing that fraud, and other contributions you have made here. :clap: I'm not gonna lie, even though most folks think I'm one of the "typical" resident skeptics, I'm not NEARLY as smart as the "real" skeptics here, and I was really close to belief during the early-mid part of that thread with the statue.

Most skeptics are not smart at all, at least on this forum. Don't need brains to ridicule someone.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

View PostThe Skater Boy, on 30 March 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Most skeptics are not smart at all, at least on this forum. Don't need brains to ridicule someone.

Considering this statement and how many ridiculing statements you have made on this forum.. I guess that would mean you have very little brains indeed. Instead of giving an intelligent argument, or adding information to the thread, you chose to ridicule every skeptic on UM- and not just the people in this thread. Most sections in UM have skeptics, and you just ridiculed them all. Perhaps including people who you haven't even read a single comment on yet. You are on this forum, being skeptical of and ridiculing, so that would mean you aren't smart at all either.
I know you are a total newbie to UM. Perhaps it would be wise to read up a bit on what is here before you cast judgement on a whole lot of folks that are quite intelligent, and have gained and given tons of knowledge over years on UM. Perhaps in a few years, you will have a better understanding of the difference between a skeptic and a person who ridicules. Though goodness, your commentary of 21 days is a sad indication of what your commentary will be with a couple years experience, if you survive and bother to stick around that long.
I'm just making this as a statement to you boy. If you choose to reply to it or quote it, please know I will not respond since it derails the thread even further. If you have a problem with my statement, please contact me via PM and I will be more than happy to discuss it. Or report me to the mods and we can go from there too.
Yep mods, please snip that whole bit and give me a dressing down if I wandered to far into breaking rules land. I know darn well I'm being improper.

Now, back to the thread.... Do you have any useful information to add boy? Perhaps something you have tried to raise spirits that you can give a personal account on? Or something that has been suggested in this thread that you tried and in your experience does not work?


And note to Sakari... Got a couple more tidbits for you to try out if you like. More folklore than anything else...
A couple things to help your fishing. Who knows, maybe you could get a recordable result, as in more fish than normal caught. :)
You could try using wish paper- Make your wish on the paper for more fish, and meditate on it about getting more fish. Then toss the paper into the water with the notion in mind that it will attract more fish. Some tales call for tossing the paper, some call for burning it to ash and scattering the ashes.
Try stringing up a small windchime or bells in your favorite fishing spot- it's supposed to attract the lucky spirits of the woods, and they might be kind enough to tickle fish in your direction. Casting fresh bread or blossoms into the water is purported to be helpful as well. On a really gross note, try casting your fish guts to the water for luck- though I think if you get more fish, it might be more to bait factor rather than spooky factor.
You could try "communing" with a totem animal noted for being good fishers. Supposed to be able to help you with your fishing luck. I'm really not sure how one is supposed to go about doing this.

And this was a weird one passed along to me by a friend, has nothing to do with fish. Fill the bathtub for a nice hot soak with the door closed so your bathroom steams up, and while you are doing so, "bless" the water. This is supposed to encourage the spirits to dance in the steam of your bathroom. I think they are supposed to be cleaning themselves, though my friend was really not making any sense about that part. From what they said, this is supposed to work in a sauna or sweat lodge, the kind where you have to pour water on rocks rather than piped steam- you bless the water, and invite the spirits to dance with every splash on the rocks. It does not work with a shower because all the water keeps running and flowing away, apparently that is not working for the blessed water stuff.
I searched this thread and it didn't come up, though I might have mentioned it and I'm just not searching correctly. But maybe try a dumb supper. On particular days when the veil is thin or critters are traveling, they are purported to be attracted by dumb suppers. Basically putting out food for spooky folks to feast on. Heh, if you do it outside for the wee folk, you might not catch anything spooky, but you might see some wonderful wildlife action.

Another weird one, from a neighbor... They swear that if you don't dispose of a horse properly, the horses ghost will come back. They say that if your horse dies or has to be put down, bury it. If you try to compost it, it will stick around. Really, apparently some folks put their horse corpses into huge manure piles on the back 40 to rot away, and purportedly those places get more weird in the barns and stables than folks that bury. So, depending on how much horse action you got going on by you.. perhaps that could be a lead. I'm not suggesting you do anything to horses, but if you got neighbors that do such a thing..

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Edited by rashore, 30 March 2013 - 09:46 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:00 PM

View Postrashore, on 30 March 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

Considering this statement and how many ridiculing statements you have made on this forum.. I guess that would mean you have very little brains indeed. Instead of giving an intelligent argument, or adding information to the thread, you chose to ridicule every skeptic on UM- and not just the people in this thread. Most sections in UM have skeptics, and you just ridiculed them all. Perhaps including people who you haven't even read a single comment on yet. You are on this forum, being skeptical of and ridiculing, so that would mean you aren't smart at all either.
I know you are a total newbie to UM. Perhaps it would be wise to read up a bit on what is here before you cast judgement on a whole lot of folks that are quite intelligent, and have gained and given tons of knowledge over years on UM. Perhaps in a few years, you will have a better understanding of the difference between a skeptic and a person who ridicules. Though goodness, your commentary of 21 days is a sad indication of what your commentary will be with a couple years experience, if you survive and bother to stick around that long.
I'm just making this as a statement to you boy. If you choose to reply to it or quote it, please know I will not respond since it derails the thread even further. If you have a problem with my statement, please contact me via PM and I will be more than happy to discuss it. Or report me to the mods and we can go from there too.
Yep mods, please snip that whole bit and give me a dressing down if I wandered to far into breaking rules land. I know darn well I'm being improper.

Now, back to the thread.... Do you have any useful information to add boy? Perhaps something you have tried to raise spirits that you can give a personal account on? Or something that has been suggested in this thread that you tried and in your experience does not work?

Oh I see how it is, it's perfectly reasonable for "believers" on this forum to be ridiculed and spoken down to but one comment about the "skeptics" and we've ruffled one too many feathers, sounds about right :tu: I've actually added plenty of perfectly good input to this thread, perhaps it's too much effort to go back and read it. Given out some good advice too for any true skeptics who really want to investigate this field, too, and I'm talking about the real skeptics who I have no problem with, not those who claim to be skeptic and enjoy nothing more than to berate others on the forum. Can't say I have much more to add other than what I've already said, which would be to stop expecting evidence to fall into your lap on the interwebs. Get off your ass and work for what you want. I certainly don't "raise spirits" and if you had read anything I've said in any threads, which you suggest you have, you'd already know this. Sure, I have a great wealth of experiences under my belt but I'm no expert on the matter of "inviting evil spirits" into my home. I wouldn't be so arrogant to think I could even try.

Lastly, I am not your "boy", sweetheart. Good day :)

Edited by The Skater Boy, 30 March 2013 - 10:06 PM.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 10:42 PM

View Postrashore, on 30 March 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

Considering this statement and how many ridiculing statements you have made on this forum.. I guess that would mean you have very little brains indeed.

You should have stopped there, as you are wrong in that assumption, and are just continuing a cycle of wrongs trying to be right: calling each other unintelligent for differing opinions, and arguing from hurt feelings and/or pride.

And it seems all of your suggestions to induct something are all just multiple ways to hone one powerful tool: intent, which is something I have trouble believing Sakari is willing to honestly use to get down and do a little TCB (taking care of business) here. He has claimed to have intent in experiencing something paranormal firsthand, but then talks highly about the times he proved something wasn't paranormal, and says this is the dual purpose of his thread. Two contrasting intents don't work. Therefore, how can anyone believe he wants to truly experience something for himself, while also trying to show it doesn't exist? For this reason, none of your suggestions would be of any worth, but they were interesting ones that I believe can probably work if done honestly. He has a belief that these things don't exist in the way he perceives other people talking about them. He has to honestly, and most likely subconsciously, suspend that to gain any true intent otherwise. Good luck with that.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:20 PM

View Post_Only, on 30 March 2013 - 10:42 PM, said:

You should have stopped there, as you are wrong in that assumption, and are just continuing a cycle of wrongs trying to be right: calling each other unintelligent for differing opinions, and arguing from hurt feelings and/or pride.

And it seems all of your suggestions to induct something are all just multiple ways to hone one powerful tool: intent, which is something I have trouble believing Sakari is willing to honestly use to get down and do a little TCB (taking care of business) here. He has claimed to have intent in experiencing something paranormal firsthand, but then talks highly about the times he proved something wasn't paranormal, and says this is the dual purpose of his thread. Two contrasting intents don't work. Therefore, how can anyone believe he wants to truly experience something for himself, while also trying to show it doesn't exist? For this reason, none of your suggestions would be of any worth, but they were interesting ones that I believe can probably work if done honestly. He has a belief that these things don't exist in the way he perceives other people talking about them. He has to honestly, and most likely subconsciously, suspend that to gain any true intent otherwise. Good luck with that.



Well, either people will believe that I am a honest person, and do want to experience these things.

Or, they can think I am lying, and want nothing to do with them at all.

You, as anyone has their right to a opinion. And really, I could care less what side of the fence you are on.


For the bold.....I know they do not exist in the way others claim them to. I also know they can not be summoned, nor can they be scared away with a circle of salt, or burning sage, because they only exist in ones mind.

You are saying I need to " believe ", only using other words.

None of that matters, as said, I can care less if people " believe " I am honest or not.....Not like I am claiming a supernatural power, or being able to talk to ghosts. I have just tried to invite them to my home. Not really that big of a claim if you ask me, anyone can try it for themselves.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:23 PM

View PostSakari, on 30 March 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

Well, either people will believe that I am a honest person, and do want to experience these things.

Or, they can think I am lying, and want nothing to do with them at all.

You, as anyone has their right to a opinion. And really, I could care less what side of the fence you are on.


For the bold.....I know they do not exist in the way others claim them to. I also know they can not be summoned, nor can they be scared away with a circle of salt, or burning sage, because they only exist in ones mind.

You are saying I need to " believe ", only using other words.

None of that matters, as said, I can care less if people " believe " I am honest or not.....Not like I am claiming a supernatural power, or being able to talk to ghosts. I have just tried to invite them to my home. Not really that big of a claim if you ask me, anyone can try it for themselves.

No, you don't.

There you go with the ridicule again.

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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:58 PM

View PostThe Skater Boy, on 30 March 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

No, you don't.

There you go with the ridicule again.

No ridicule there at all. I made a reply. If I were to ridicule, you, and everyone would know it, as I do not sugar coat anything.

Notice, I did not reply to your post ridiculing " skeptics" earlier. That was a good example of the word " ridicule ". ( and that is pointing something out, not ridiculing )

I have better things to do then explain ridiculing, and explaining very clear posts to people that read into them. I would say sorrry if you felt my reply was bad, but I am not. I posted to another members quote, not yours. If I had anything to say to any of your replies, I would have quoted them

This topic is not about " whom ridicules whom, and how do we decipher replies ".....It is titled " How do I invite evil spirits to my home ".

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:02 AM

View Postrashore, on 30 March 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

And note to Sakari... Got a couple more tidbits for you to try out if you like. More folklore than anything else...
A couple things to help your fishing. Who knows, maybe you could get a recordable result, as in more fish than normal caught. :)
You could try using wish paper- Make your wish on the paper for more fish, and meditate on it about getting more fish. Then toss the paper into the water with the notion in mind that it will attract more fish. Some tales call for tossing the paper, some call for burning it to ash and scattering the ashes.
Try stringing up a small windchime or bells in your favorite fishing spot- it's supposed to attract the lucky spirits of the woods, and they might be kind enough to tickle fish in your direction. Casting fresh bread or blossoms into the water is purported to be helpful as well. On a really gross note, try casting your fish guts to the water for luck- though I think if you get more fish, it might be more to bait factor rather than spooky factor.
You could try "communing" with a totem animal noted for being good fishers. Supposed to be able to help you with your fishing luck. I'm really not sure how one is supposed to go about doing this.

And this was a weird one passed along to me by a friend, has nothing to do with fish. Fill the bathtub for a nice hot soak with the door closed so your bathroom steams up, and while you are doing so, "bless" the water. This is supposed to encourage the spirits to dance in the steam of your bathroom. I think they are supposed to be cleaning themselves, though my friend was really not making any sense about that part. From what they said, this is supposed to work in a sauna or sweat lodge, the kind where you have to pour water on rocks rather than piped steam- you bless the water, and invite the spirits to dance with every splash on the rocks. It does not work with a shower because all the water keeps running and flowing away, apparently that is not working for the blessed water stuff.
I searched this thread and it didn't come up, though I might have mentioned it and I'm just not searching correctly. But maybe try a dumb supper. On particular days when the veil is thin or critters are traveling, they are purported to be attracted by dumb suppers. Basically putting out food for spooky folks to feast on. Heh, if you do it outside for the wee folk, you might not catch anything spooky, but you might see some wonderful wildlife action.

Another weird one, from a neighbor... They swear that if you don't dispose of a horse properly, the horses ghost will come back. They say that if your horse dies or has to be put down, bury it. If you try to compost it, it will stick around. Really, apparently some folks put their horse corpses into huge manure piles on the back 40 to rot away, and purportedly those places get more weird in the barns and stables than folks that bury. So, depending on how much horse action you got going on by you.. perhaps that could be a lead. I'm not suggesting you do anything to horses, but if you got neighbors that do such a thing..

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:44 AM

"No ridicule there at all."

I disagree. Very few people go around claiming to have "supernatural powers" or that they "talk to ghosts" (and I certainly haven't). That's your way of trying to mock people who do have experiences with your typical "I know better than you, you nutcase" attitude.

"Notice, I did not reply to your post ridiculing " skeptics" earlier. That was a good example of the word " ridicule "."

I disagree again, merely my observation of some "skeptics" on this forum, yourself and rashore included.

"I have better things to do then explain ridiculing, and explaining very clear posts to people that read into them. I would say sorrry if you felt my reply was bad, but I am not. I posted to another members quote, not yours. If I had anything to say to any of your replies, I would have quoted them"

Fortunately, I'm already aware of the meaning of ridicule, so there's no need anyway. Rest assured I also have better things to do than to sit and spend ridiculous amounts of time reading into your posts, it looks like I'm not the only one who interprets them this way. Please do direct me to the rules of the forum that states I am not allowed to post in a topic if I am not directly quoted or spoken to. I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed to post if this was not in place.

"This topic is not about " whom ridicules whom, and how do we decipher replies ".....It is titled " How do I invite evil spirits to my home "."

Call it what you like, this thread was made to ridicule people who have genuine experiences and I'm evidently not the only one who reads it that way. I'm flabbergasted a mod hasn't deleted it or locked it. Mind you, I've seen much less subtle ridicule around here and apparently it's welcome.

"Hope you are having a great weekend......"

It's been cosmic thus far, thanks!

"You can PM me anytime you want, as you know I do not reply to those any different then I do here. That way, the threads do not get off track also."

Not sure why I keep getting invited to private conversations. I wouldn't say anything, or to anyone, that I wouldn't publicly. You should note I haven't knocked your thread off track, you claimed you know these spirits don't exist, I disagreed that you know anything. I'm surprised rashore's ridiculous post isn't labeled as off topic but mine is. Well, not really.

Did you undertake any of my suggestions yet? Don't worry, that's a rhetorical question, I already know the answer.

Edited by The Skater Boy, 31 March 2013 - 12:49 AM.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:57 AM

I'm not going to read 139 pages, but all I can say is why the hell would you want "evil" spirits in your home.

Sounds really crazy to me, no offense.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:12 AM

This thread should just die. I find it hard to believe its still going . Just my two sense .

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:24 AM

View PostThe Skater Boy, on 31 March 2013 - 12:44 AM, said:

"No ridicule there at all."

I disagree. Very few people go around claiming to have "supernatural powers" or that they "talk to ghosts" (and I certainly haven't). That's your way of trying to mock people who do have experiences with your typical "I know better than you, you nutcase" attitude.

"Notice, I did not reply to your post ridiculing " skeptics" earlier. That was a good example of the word " ridicule "."

I disagree again, merely my observation of some "skeptics" on this forum, yourself and rashore included.

"I have better things to do then explain ridiculing, and explaining very clear posts to people that read into them. I would say sorrry if you felt my reply was bad, but I am not. I posted to another members quote, not yours. If I had anything to say to any of your replies, I would have quoted them"

Fortunately, I'm already aware of the meaning of ridicule, so there's no need anyway. Rest assured I also have better things to do than to sit and spend ridiculous amounts of time reading into your posts, it looks like I'm not the only one who interprets them this way. Please do direct me to the rules of the forum that states I am not allowed to post in a topic if I am not directly quoted or spoken to. I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed to post if this was not in place.

"This topic is not about " whom ridicules whom, and how do we decipher replies ".....It is titled " How do I invite evil spirits to my home "."

Call it what you like, this thread was made to ridicule people who have genuine experiences and I'm evidently not the only one who reads it that way. I'm flabbergasted a mod hasn't deleted it or locked it. Mind you, I've seen much less subtle ridicule around here and apparently it's welcome.

"Hope you are having a great weekend......"

It's been cosmic thus far, thanks!

"You can PM me anytime you want, as you know I do not reply to those any different then I do here. That way, the threads do not get off track also."

Not sure why I keep getting invited to private conversations. I wouldn't say anything, or to anyone, that I wouldn't publicly. You should note I haven't knocked your thread off track, you claimed you know these spirits don't exist, I disagreed that you know anything. I'm surprised rashore's ridiculous post isn't labeled as off topic but mine is. Well, not really.

Did you undertake any of my suggestions yet? Don't worry, that's a rhetorical question, I already know the answer.

All I can say is everyone has a right to their opinion.

I can also assure you, I did not make this thread to ridicule anyone, I made it ( it has been explained numerous times ) because of all of the claims ( and they still keep coming ) of people claiming to have these things, and people telling them how to get rid of them.

I have NO issues with anyone stating " I believe this to be "........I have issues with people claiming their belief is fact, and stating they " know " things. Yet, when asked to give some evidence, they can not do it.

I especially have issues when people ask for legitimate answers to issues they have. They can ( and many times have ) been medical issues, that some people try to convince them that it is " paranormal "......This is my biggest thing that bothers me.

Anyway, I can only give you my word that I mean no ridicule to anyone on this topic, I have been blunt, and I have looked for evidence, from the " pros "....I have only asked for proof that I can find, and report out from claiments...

As for others conversations with you, I stay out of those. You can use the report button, as anyone can. I have had more then my share of wasted arguments here at UM, and have no desire to get involved in others.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:26 AM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 31 March 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

This thread should just die. I find it hard to believe its still going . Just my two sense .

As I stated a bunch of pages back, I am done with it. I am not trying anything else. ( unless someone can guarantee me reportable, verifiable, results )...

If people would not reply to this topic, it would get buried.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:39 AM

View PostSakari, on 31 March 2013 - 01:24 AM, said:

All I can say is everyone has a right to their opinion.

I can also assure you, I did not make this thread to ridicule anyone, I made it ( it has been explained numerous times ) because of all of the claims ( and they still keep coming ) of people claiming to have these things, and people telling them how to get rid of them.

I have NO issues with anyone stating " I believe this to be "........I have issues with people claiming their belief is fact, and stating they " know " things. Yet, when asked to give some evidence, they can not do it.

I especially have issues when people ask for legitimate answers to issues they have. They can ( and many times have ) been medical issues, that some people try to convince them that it is " paranormal "......This is my biggest thing that bothers me.

Anyway, I can only give you my word that I mean no ridicule to anyone on this topic, I have been blunt, and I have looked for evidence, from the " pros "....I have only asked for proof that I can find, and report out from claiments...

As for others conversations with you, I stay out of those. You can use the report button, as anyone can. I have had more then my share of wasted arguments here at UM, and have no desire to get involved in others.

It's interesting that you have a problem with people "knowing" the truth about this subject when you, mere posts ago, claimed youknow the truth. You certainly didn't express it as a belief...

If you've ever followed posts I make, you'll find that I'll go down the rational and medical routes, especially if things aren't adding up on my end, but for as many times as there has been a rational or medical explanation, there's also been a number of times it hasn't and that something paranormal has been occurring.

Are you STILL waiting for evidence on the Internet? Of course nobody can produce it on this forum, it's practically impossible, but there are genuine people out there experiencing genuine things - go out and investigate like a real skeptic, not a keyboard warrior. Given this advice to you a thousand times, it feels like, now.

As for reporting people to mods, heh, something tells me nothing would happen. Besides, we're presumably all adults and I don't need to run to a mod to slap somebody on the wrist, their ignorance is like water off of a ducks back.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:44 AM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 31 March 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

This thread should just die. I find it hard to believe its still going . Just my two sense .

I agree.

Mods, if appropriate can you jump-in and lock this incredibly BS thread?





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