Baseball star Ted Williams has been dead for many many years. Of that there is no doubt. But his family has his head cryogenically frozen. If science ever develops a way to reanimate a deceased person he will be brought back to life (him and many others who are frozen).
If that happens, then according to the definition of death, he was never dead. It wasn't "final." You people hung up on the definition of death can then spend years claiming he was never dead, and by definition will be right, just like you are in the near-death experiences.
But people who believe in a 'soul," whether through faith or because via mystical practices they have proof positive of its existence, define death as that moment when the soul leaves the human body and begins traveling to the "heavens" of different dimensions.
To those people Ted Williams is very dead. His head has been removed from his body. He has been dead for about 20 years. If he is brought back from the dead 5 years from now you will be able to say he was never dead. But Ted Williams, and countless others will know that he was in fact dead. Maybe not by the scientific definition, but by "reality."
i am extremely interested in the topic of NDE's. i have at least fifteen books on the subject in my library alone. my idea of what it means to be dead is not relevant to the experience of nde's - at least not to me - as i see those people as being at the point of death (but not actually dead) and being afforded a look at what lay beyond.
my point earlier was that it doesn't matter when one believes is the actual moment of terminal death because the patient never achieved that state when they had the experience.
does that make sense to anyone else but me just now? lol
anyway, carry on...