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#31    Jessica Christ

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:01 PM

View PostMerc14, on 30 October 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:


You do realize that in my OP there was absolutely no mention of religion.   Silver Thong asked if America was ready for a mormon Prez and I replied I'd take a mormon over a BLT any day.  Now, in what way does that show how I think?

And again you bring up ethnicity as a basis for your vote but this time use an acronym. Some are simply not voting for a party full of racists that think similarly to the way you have by making ethnicity the basis for their vote. We know that is why some do not like our President. Get over it, your own grandchildren will judge you or be judged by others themselves.

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To be fair, from an anthropological perspective, ALL religions are defined as cults as they are organizations for the conduct of ritual, magical, or other religious observances.

To be fair, it is not a cult using a sociological definition.

Also when others call Mormonism a cult they do it in a disparaging manner as if it is acceptable still to disparage the beliefs of others. It is not.

To be sure, it is still done, people still put down others or dislike others on the basis of religion or ethnicity, but everyone else can see these are backward ideas. Unsure why anyone would want to defend the claim that Mormons are a cult, it is a sickening charge, it has no place in modern political discourse, and to claim technically that they are a cult because of an anthropological definition is just as equally backward.

Edited by Chasingtherabbit, 30 October 2012 - 11:08 PM.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:04 PM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

And again you bring up ethnicity as a basis for your vote but this time use an acronym. Some are simply not voting for a party full of racists.



To be fair, it is not a cult using a sociological definition.

Also when others call Mormonism a cult they do it in a disparaging manner as if it is acceptable stil to disparage the beliefs of others. To be sure it is done, people put down others or dislike on the basis of religion or ethnicity, but everyone else can see these are backward ideas. Unsure why anyone would want to defend the claim that Mormons are a cult, it is a sickening charge, it has no place in modern political discourse, and to claim technically that they are a cult because of an anthropological definition is just as equally backward.

I was just giving a definition. ALL religions are cults, anthropologically speaking. That's not 'backward', that's factual.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:09 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 30 October 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

I have to agree. Many Keynesians say that we should have spent Twice as much... 12 Trillion. And then things would be Fine.
Do you agree with that or not?  Do you think $2T or $4T in stimulus would've worked when $1T didn't?

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:14 PM

When the common person says "Mormonism is a cult" you should know exactly how they mean it.

Can you cite your claim that all religions are cults using academic references?


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:17 PM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

And again you bring up ethnicity as a basis for your vote but this time use an acronym. Some are simply not voting for a party full of racists that think similarly to the way you have by making ethnicity the basis for their vote. We know that is why some do not like our President. Get over it, your own grandchildren will judge you or be judged by others themselves.
What in the hell are you talking about?  Where did you read I am basing my vote on ethnicity?  First, religion has nothing to do with ethnicity and no where in this thread have I read a post that discusses skin color.  Second,  I didn't bring up religion, Silver Thong did and Black Liberation Theology is the church Obama attended for 20 years.  Is it wrong to bring up Obama's church?  If so why?  Are you embarrassed by the BLT religion?  Do you approve of their doctrine?  Is it racist to disagree with Obama's religion?  If so why?  Are you calling me a racist? If so why?

Edited by Merc14, 30 October 2012 - 11:23 PM.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:21 PM

View PostMerc14, on 30 October 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

What in the hell are you talking about?  Where did you read I am basing my vote on ethnicity?  First, religion has nothing to do with ethnicity and no where in this thread have I read a post that discusses skin color.  Second,  I didn't bring up religion, Silver Thong did and Black Liberation Theology is the church Obama attended for 20 years.  Is it wrong to bring up Obama's church?  If so why?  Are you calling me a racist? If so why? Silver Thong brought up Mormonism, but it wasn't in a bad way that I could see, so why are you going in this direction?

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View PostMerc14, on 30 October 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

I'll take a mormon over a Black Liberation Theology advocate any day.



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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:31 PM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

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So you accuse me of racism and this is your response?  You accuse an entire group of people, republicans, of racism yet I see no proof of it?  Racism is a vile crime yet you people on the left throw it around like it is nothing.  You've made it cheap and ineffectual.  Congrats.  You want a discussion on racism, start a thread and we'll discuss the democrats and their behavior over te last 60 years.  Pretty ugly stuff.  Go ahead and start a thread, maybe you'll learn something.

Edited by Merc14, 30 October 2012 - 11:36 PM.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:36 PM

If Black Liberation Theology is a concern for you and others the charge is probably true. Rational people don't even consider any of that when thinking of our president.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

If Black Liberation Theology is a concern for you and others the charge is probably true. Rational people don't even consider any of that when thinking of our president.

Maybe you should do a bit of study before you judge.  BLT isn't a particularly pleasant religion and your president himself, after sitting in Wright's church for 20 years, said "I never took all  that stuff serious".  What a racist, based on your definition. Rational people don't vote for a man as unqualified to serve as president as Obama was.

Regardless, I didn't base my opinion on Obama based on religion, it was based on countless other aspects of the man that made him unfit for the office of President.  I would say my opinion has been proven true based on the last 4 miserable years.  You need to do better.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:21 AM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

And again you bring up ethnicity as a basis for your vote but this time use an acronym. Some are simply not voting for a party full of racists that think similarly to the way you have by making ethnicity the basis for their vote. We know that is why some do not like our President. Get over it, your own grandchildren will judge you or be judged by others themselves.

Too be fair, when I was living in Georgia, it was PC for Dems to hate Whites openly and spew out anything they wanted about how Whites were Satans and how they were evil and corrupt. That is just as racist as if I was to deride black people for being lazy and criminally inclined. We've seen "reverse racism" for decades now, where whites are pushed down to make room for minoritys with lower scores and less experience.

So... Do you have a problem supporting a political party that is racist toward whites?

I think perhaps you are the one that needs to... "Get over it".

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:21 AM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

If Black Liberation Theology is a concern for you and others the charge is probably true. Rational people don't even consider any of that when thinking of our president.
Would it be considered important if a president had belonged to a church based on the tenets of the KKK?  I ask the question to make a serious point.  The BLT church is the anti equivalent of the KKK.  It's less about race than extremism.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:24 AM

View PostMerc14, on 30 October 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

Do you agree with that or not?  Do you think $2T or $4T in stimulus would've worked when $1T didn't?
No. I think it was a waste of money, and even the CBO graphs show that after 4 years of slightly deeper Recession, we would have been just about back to the economy we have now. So we spent all that money to get a minimal return over only 4 years. IMHO.... Stupid.

I'm not 100% sure that Austerity is the way to go. But, I know for sure that just tossing money into the whirlwind is not going to help either. Even if they "saved" several million jobs, that is millions of dollars per job that was saved. Wasteful!

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 12:27 AM

View PostMerc14, on 30 October 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

Maybe you should do a bit of study before you judge.  BLT isn't a particularly pleasant religion and your president himself, after sitting in Wright's church for 20 years, said "I never took all  that stuff serious".  What a racist, based on your definition. Rational people don't vote for a man as unqualified to serve as president as Obama was.
I bet if it was George Bush... Or... Jeb Bush, and it was the KKK that he was attending, it would be a great BIG deal. Hate is hate, regardless of who you want to be President due to their Campaign Retoric.

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View Postand then, on 31 October 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

Would it be considered important if a president had belonged to a church based on the tenets of the KKK?  I ask the question to make a serious point.  The BLT church is the anti equivalent of the KKK.  It's less about race than extremism.
Basically what I said, but you said it first!! :nw:

Edited by DieChecker, 31 October 2012 - 12:29 AM.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:05 AM

View PostChasingtherabbit, on 30 October 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:



And again you bring up ethnicity as a basis for your vote but this time use an acronym. Some are simply not voting for a party full of racists that think similarly to the way you have by making ethnicity the basis for their vote. We know that is why some do not like our President. Get over it, your own grandchildren will judge you or be judged by others themselves.



Wow, you're way out of line. BLT is not an ethnicity. It's an ideology steeped in what you claim to be outraged over. RACISM.

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Our national issue isn't racism.  According to this 2011 Gallup study, 5% of Americans say they won't vote for a black, while the national average is 22% say they wouldn't vote for a Mormon, 7% won't vote for a Catholic, 9% won't vote for a Jew, 32% wouldn't vote for a gay or lesbian and 49% wouldn't vote for an atheist.  People, we're hiring someone to clean out the septic tank, not to have dinner with.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:38 AM

View PostIs it for real, on 31 October 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

Wow, you're way out of line. BLT is not an ethnicity. It's an ideology steeped in what you claim to be outraged over. RACISM.

http://thesilicongra...code-words.html
Our national issue isn't racism.  According to this 2011 Gallup study, 5% of Americans say they won't vote for a black, while the national average is 22% say they wouldn't vote for a Mormon, 7% won't vote for a Catholic, 9% won't vote for a Jew, 32% wouldn't vote for a gay or lesbian and 49% wouldn't vote for an atheist.  People, we're hiring someone to clean out the septic tank, not to have dinner with.

Well said sir.

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