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#16    GreenmansGod

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:40 PM

These are the kind of videos that make me think,  Do really want to look at it...  brain freeze.  Just put down the mouse and walk away... then I click...   brain death...  :rofl:

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:03 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 07:37 AM, said:

I have no idea what relationship Jinn might have to demons -- they come out of different cultures.  I also never heard of Jinn having magic power except might seem magic from the fact that one can't see them and hence they can know things they shouldn't.

Cultures share common phenomena demon or jinn doesn't belong to a culture. People may believe different things based on thier culture because they havent a true understanding. A shadowy figure from the spirit realm. A spirit believed to reside in an object. A spirit that grants your wishes. These are across the board.

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 08:11 AM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 21 June 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

They are real. People want to argue about what that means etc. What is a demon etc. Negative non-human, non-non real figments of our "imagination" entities exist.
In our imagination


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 08:23 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

These are all just "possibilities."  Ghost, alien, smoke, reflection, jinn, angel, eye floater, illusion, optical illusion, delusion, dream, waking dream, hallucination, refraction.

There's also these possibilities : The shaman in the video is a fake. (Not ruling out the paranormal in general).


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 08:25 AM

The default, when there is so little convincing evidence, is to disbelieve.  Rationally, I think that is probably what one should do.  However, there remains, to me, considerable doubt.

I don't think, however, that there is anything to fear or be superstitious about, nor any point in scientists investigating the claims.  Such efforts will always evaporated into wasted time.


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Posted 22 June 2013 - 02:30 PM

You know what I think... don't get upset y'all... I'm just saying what I think, The God of Abraham was a desert Jinn. He fits the definition.

Marids (Arabic: مارد‎ mārid) are often described as the most powerful type of jinn, having especially great powers. They are the most arrogant and proud as well. Like every jinn, they have free will yet could be compelled to perform chores. They also have the ability to grant wishes to mortals, but that usually requires battle, and according to some sources imprisonment, rituals, or just a great deal of flattery.

http://en.wikipedia....abian_mythology

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 08:09 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 22 June 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

You know what I think... don't get upset y'all... I'm just saying what I think, The God of Abraham was a desert Jinn. He fits the definition.

Marids (Arabic: مارد‎ mārid) are often described as the most powerful type of jinn, having especially great powers. They are the most arrogant and proud as well. Like every jinn, they have free will yet could be compelled to perform chores. They also have the ability to grant wishes to mortals, but that usually requires battle, and according to some sources imprisonment, rituals, or just a great deal of flattery.

http://en.wikipedia....abian_mythology

Wow battle.. does sound right. The bible said he was the God of Armies.
And they did fight a lot in his name... interesting.

So Jinns are like Gods then? I thought they were Genies
I want my 3 wishes damm it..

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 10:11 PM

If I got to deal with the God of Armies to get them I'll pass on the 3 wishes.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 12:46 AM

View PostLostSouls7, on 21 June 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

what do you think of this?
That was a pretty accurate explanation as to what can & will go wrong if you go down such a self serving path.

View PostLostSouls7, on 21 June 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

are demons real? or just imaginations of the mind?
I don't want to give an answer to debate this either way..
One possible explanation is that they are real, the other that the perceptions of the mind are mere imaginations.. imo both are wrong.
The "Ideas" (Which I notice you tagged to this thread :tu:) is just as, if not more important than if they do exist. metaphorically speaking, Idea's are a seed, and from seeds anything can grow.

View PostDarkwind, on 21 June 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

These are the kind of videos that make me think,  Do really want to look at it...  brain freeze.  Just put down the mouse and walk away... then I click...   brain death...  :rofl:

Snap..
These topics are things I normally avoid for the sake of trying to keep the mind free of weeds.


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 04:58 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

Not possible.
Really? its not possible?

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:54 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 22 June 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

If I got to deal with the God of Armies to get them I'll pass on the 3 wishes.

That you my friend.. i've always wanted 3 wishes, like in the movie Alladin.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 02:54 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 21 June 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

I totally believe demons are real, and anything involving demons should be left alone

View PostFrank Merton, on 21 June 2013 - 07:27 AM, said:

Not possible.
Hi Frank :)

Just curious, how is it "Not possible" for R4 to totally believe demons are real? :P

Sorry couldn't help myself.

More to the point though - on what basis is it actually "not possible" for demons to exist?

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:08 AM

I didn't say demons are not possible.  Read what I was responding to: I said it is not possible to leave anything pertaining to demons strictly alone.

Indeed, the very fact that he posted something here violates his one edict.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 03:12 AM

Buddhist mythology is filled with beings that are translated "demons," although that is misleading.  They are beings of horrible and frightening appearance, but their function is good - to force personality traits such as greed and pride and envy our of us.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 06:13 PM

a simple misunderstanding it seems Frank :tu:

COME WITH ME. OVERWHELMING POWER AND MADNESS AWAIT

THAT IS NOT DEAD WHICH CAN ETERNAL LIE AND WITH STRANGE AEONS EVEN DEATH MAY DIE





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