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#16    Knight Of Shadows

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 08:09 PM

View Posthetrodoxly, on 23 July 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

I was wondering if they were going to put a spin on it or tell the truth, if it shows warts and all it should be a good program.
PS Islam isn't a phobia, it's a fact.
they won't put spin on it .. we are not ashamed of conquest we made
on conquest muslims followed certain rules not to kill innocents men or children or women not to destroy livestocks
not to burn trees or cut them . and etc etc etc
unlike what Europeans did in the naive americans .. unlike what the crusaders did during the crusades
unlike what the persians did in their wars .. unlike what the natars did
unlike what the Mongols did during their vicious battles

so no we're not ashamed of conquest .. we have nothing to hide unlike others
every nation would expand there's no shame in that .. the shame of the methods of doing so

ps : i was just asking because based on every argument we had on islam you don't seem want to debate more than you just want to draw islam
as this " horrific and terriable " religion so i think my question was fair :yes:

Gustave Le Bon :  the world had never known a conqueror more merciful than Muslims " La Civilization Arabe "

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:53 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 23 July 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

the mahdi won't be the leader when he returns .. jesus will
there are some muslims who will refuse to follow mahdi " shitties "
because they believe mahdi will decend from housin .. while mahdi will decends from hasan
those will follow the false messaiah " anti-christ " or dajjal
the prophecy says also there is some christians will deny the real jesus and follow al dajjal " thinking he's the messiah "
because he would be able to do miracles as bring the dead back to live

the mahdi is not our .. messiah or leader he is only a decands of the prophet bloodline
and he along side with jesus will chase the anti-christ and kill him as the prophecy says
but jesus him self will put an end to the dajjal's life
In Bible eschatology there are two figures who will tell the world about how wrong the antichrist is.  They are referred to as the "two witnesses".  They will be killed fter 3.5 years of preaching.  They will have the supernatural ability to cause droughts and floods and pestilences to punish the people who worship the antichrist.  Is there anyone like that in Islam?  Does the Dajjal have the ability to control the weather or kill people with fire from his mouth? Does he have a "partner" who helps him?  I read that he will have one eye missing.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:50 PM

name='Knight Of Shadows' timestamp='1343074184' post='4383225']

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they won't put spin on it .. we are not ashamed of conquest we made
on conquest muslims followed certain rules not to kill innocents men or children or women not to destroy livestocks

Isn't anyone being invaded innocent?


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not to burn trees or cut them . and etc etc etc
unlike what Europeans did in the naive americans .. unlike what the crusaders did during the crusades
unlike what the persians did in their wars .. unlike what the natars did
unlike what the Mongols did during their vicious battles

so no we're not ashamed of conquest .. we have nothing to hide unlike others
every nation would expand there's no shame in that .. the shame of the methods of doing so

Sorry Shadow but that's complete and utter BS :rolleyes:



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ps : i was just asking because based on every argument we had on islam you don't seem want to debate more than you just want to draw islam
as this " horrific and terriable " religion so i think my question was fair :yes:

Tis true, but that's how i see Islam.



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Gustave Le Bon :  the world had never known a conqueror more merciful than Muslims " La Civilization Arabe "

When Syria was being invaded.
"Do prophets come with sword and chariot"?
Written during Mohammed's lifetime, long long before Muslims write anything about him.
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Posted 24 July 2012 - 07:59 PM

View Posthetrodoxly, on 24 July 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

name='Knight Of Shadows' timestamp='1343074184' post='4383225']

Isn't anyone being invaded innocent?


Sorry Shadow but that's complete and utter BS :rolleyes:

Tis true, but that's how i see Islam.

When Syria was being invaded.
"Do prophets come with sword and chariot"?
Written during Mohammed's lifetime, long long before Muslims write anything about him.
i knew shameful facts will seem BS to you
but i can say the same about your post
and spare you your corrupted version of history it bring ache to ears

Edited by Knight Of Shadows, 24 July 2012 - 08:06 PM.

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to Him belongs all that is In heavens and earth. who is there can intercede In His presence except what He permits

He knows what lies before them and what is after them. Nor shall they comprehend of his knowledge except as He wills

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the preserving of them fatigues Him not and He is the most High and Glorious


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:07 PM

View Postand then, on 24 July 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

In Bible eschatology there are two figures who will tell the world about how wrong the antichrist is.  They are referred to as the "two witnesses".  They will be killed fter 3.5 years of preaching.  They will have the supernatural ability to cause droughts and floods and pestilences to punish the people who worship the antichrist.  Is there anyone like that in Islam?  Does the Dajjal have the ability to control the weather or kill people with fire from his mouth? Does he have a "partner" who helps him?  I read that he will have one eye missing.
the dajjar has been mentioned to have supernature abilities of which we know or don't
but what we do know he will be able to cut men in half then bring them back to life .. and bring back to life random dead people
or relatives of people to presuade them
also he'll have the ability to show people heaven and hell when people choose his heaven .. it'll be their hell
when they choose his hell .. it'll be heaven

and no the dajjal would have no major character beside him .. except his army who believe him to be the real messiah
and yeah he has only one eye and it's funny how you see the one eye symbol in very different weird places these days
such as dollar bill ?  :D but that's a different topic

Allah, there is no God but He the Living the Eternal. no slumber can seize Him nor sleep

to Him belongs all that is In heavens and earth. who is there can intercede In His presence except what He permits

He knows what lies before them and what is after them. Nor shall they comprehend of his knowledge except as He wills

His throne extends over the heavens and earth

the preserving of them fatigues Him not and He is the most High and Glorious


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:36 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 24 July 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

i knew shameful facts will seem BS to you
but i can say the same about your post
and spare you your corrupted version of history it bring ache to ears
I admit Europeans have done bad thing all over the world i said BS because you claim Muslims haven't.
Muslim atrocities are just as bad if not worse, from creeping into English fishing villages at night and stealing women and children for the sex markets of Islam to creating all the gypsis of the world, the hands of your religion are as blood stained as anyone else's.
Thank god i'm an athiest.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

View Posthetrodoxly, on 24 July 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

I admit Europeans have done bad thing all over the world i said BS because you claim Muslims haven't.
Muslim atrocities are just as bad if not worse, from creeping into English fishing villages at night and stealing women and children for the sex markets of Islam to creating all the gypsis of the world, the hands of your religion are as blood stained as anyone else's.
whatever makes you sleep at night

Allah, there is no God but He the Living the Eternal. no slumber can seize Him nor sleep

to Him belongs all that is In heavens and earth. who is there can intercede In His presence except what He permits

He knows what lies before them and what is after them. Nor shall they comprehend of his knowledge except as He wills

His throne extends over the heavens and earth

the preserving of them fatigues Him not and He is the most High and Glorious


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:13 PM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 24 July 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

whatever makes you sleep at night
Knowing i have nothing to hide.
Thank god i'm an athiest.

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