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The Psychology of Paranormal Belief


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#1    Sakari

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:40 AM

I am sure a lot of people are like me. They want to learn more on why some people believe in the paranormal, even when their are no facts to support their belief. This is something that has fascinated me for the last 5 years, and is something I have been trying to learn about.

For others that have looked for research on this, here is a good start :



With a thorough and systematic review of investigations into the bases of belief in paranormal phenomena, this discussion explores the four main theoretical approaches relating to the nature of such beliefs. Objective and well-researched, this account addresses different points of view on the topic—while some commentators depict paranormal believers as foolish, others propose that paranormal beliefs must be understood as necessities that serve certain psychodynamic needs. The foundations and shortcomings of each approach are also documented, and a new comprehensive theory attempts to explain the development of scientifically unsubstantiated beliefs.

http://circee.org/ir...ief-review.html

http://www.amazon.co...ology of belief

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:05 AM

Jeezus H!  28 bucks just for the Kindle edition? Maybe I can find a library somewhere to borrow it from.....


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:07 AM

View Postorangepeaceful79, on 19 November 2012 - 02:05 AM, said:

Jeezus H!  28 bucks just for the Kindle edition? Maybe I can find a library somewhere to borrow it from.....

I know....I am looking around, if I find a decent price, I will PM you......

Had been reading about it, would like to read it, and his other 4.....

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:08 AM

$15.39 here for ebook.....

http://books.google....id=0S6bgzQrfLEC

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

I also recommend Paranormality by Richard Wiseman. Very good and entertainingly written book.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:04 AM

Everyone's life experiences are unique to themselves, some develop belief systems out of those experiences. So science hasn't been able to explain the paranormal? Well, it wasn't that long ago that science couldn't explain illness in terms other than the four humours. And space travel seemed so far-fetched we read about it only in science fiction, and something like the internet was inconceivable 75 years ago. So who knows where science may take us in the future? Just because science currently has no explanation doesn't mean that it never will have.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:06 AM

View PostBeany, on 19 November 2012 - 04:04 AM, said:

Everyone's life experiences are unique to themselves, some develop belief systems out of those experiences. So science hasn't been able to explain the paranormal? Well, it wasn't that long ago that science couldn't explain illness in terms other than the four humours. And space travel seemed so far-fetched we read about it only in science fiction, and something like the internet was inconceivable 75 years ago. So who knows where science may take us in the future? Just because science currently has no explanation doesn't mean that it never will have.

Science does have a explanation....

And I just posted a link for a book, not sure where the debate came from.

Did you see that?....It is a book on the Psychology of the paranormal, no claims of anything anywhere to debate...Just a link for a book is all.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:34 AM

Ahhh,yes,science has an explanation ,that we all *need* these little beliefs to keep our world turning .Fail . And how old is this book ?
Can't you find anything a bit more current ,to explain our "psychology .
One has to wonder about people so hell bent on proving it doesn't exist ,except in another person's mind . .

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:49 AM

I got to ask Wiseman about it, and it's also outlined in his book.
Basically, he's interested in what causes our brains to come to these conclusions. He stresses often this doesn't mean psycics/ghosts, ect. don't exist.
Fun book, funny guy. Signed my copy with a drawing of a ghost.

It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:53 AM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 19 November 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

Ahhh,yes,science has an explanation ,that we all *need* these little beliefs to keep our world turning .Fail . And how old is this book ?
Can't you find anything a bit more current ,to explain our "psychology .
One has to wonder about people so hell bent on proving it doesn't exist ,except in another person's mind . .

at the end of the day, it all comes down to mind control.. the more awake you become the more you see how limited and narrow minded science and the rational mind is.. its confined in its concrete walls..

  

View PostSakari, on 19 November 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

I am sure a lot of people are like me. They want to learn more on why some people believe in the paranormal, even when their are no facts to support their belief. This is something that has fascinated me for the last 5 years, and is something I have been trying to learn about.

i don't believe you actually want to learn more on these topics, Sakari..

so you are desperate to learn more about it, even though you know there is no way to provide factual evidence that would sustain you and your posse of skeptics?? kind of defeats the purpose of anyone ever posting here.. good luck..


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:58 AM

View Postwith bells on, on 19 November 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

at the end of the day, it all comes down to mind control.. the more awake you become the more you see how limited and narrow minded science and the rational mind is.. its confined in its concrete walls..

  

i don't believe you actually want to learn more on these topics, Sakari..

so you are desperate to learn more about it, even though you know there is no way to provide factual evidence that would sustain you and your posse of skeptics?? kind of defeats the purpose of anyone ever posting here.. good luck..


Any certain topic you would like to discuss?....I am more then willing to discuss whatever is on your mind.

Is there a certain reason people like you just can not stand someone not having the same belief as you?

I discuss things, I show facts, and I have rebuttles with facts.If someone tells me this is what they believe, I do not argue it. If they through it out as fact, I ask for evidence, and I do debate it.

Why so angry because I do not share your belief?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:58 PM

What makes the world interesting are the differences among us. Wherever we stand on the topic, we can always learn from one another. I was just thinking about the closed loop idea, that because science doesn't currently have an explanation for a paranormal experience science will never have an explanation, therefore, any paranormal experiences one might experience is scientifically invalid.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:12 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 19 November 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

Ahhh,yes,science has an explanation ,that we all *need* these little beliefs to keep our world turning .Fail . And how old is this book ?
Can't you find anything a bit more current ,to explain our "psychology .
One has to wonder about people so hell bent on proving it doesn't exist ,except in another person's mind . .


This book is 3 years old.

Yes, I can find things more current. If I wanted to post them I would, I shared this since I have not seen it before.

One has to wonder on why someone gets their panties in a wad every time someone does not share their belief in certain topics......The book may answer that.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:00 PM

View PostBeany, on 19 November 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

What makes the world interesting are the differences among us. Wherever we stand on the topic, we can always learn from one another. I was just thinking about the closed loop idea, that because science doesn't currently have an explanation for a paranormal experience science will never have an explanation, therefore, any paranormal experiences one might experience is scientifically invalid.

I am not sure where science does not have a explanation.

The bold part..... :tu:

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostSakari, on 19 November 2012 - 05:58 AM, said:

.If someone tells me this is what they believe, I do not argue it. If they through it out as fact, I ask for evidence, and I do debate it.

this is what i don't understand as well - it's like asking for evidence is something dirty.
what i find tiring are those who spout the usual responses - why are you here if you don't believe? this is an unexplained mysteries forum so why do i need proof? you are trolling. i don't have to prove anything to you...etc





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