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Pope Benedict begins trip to Lebanon

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#1    libstaK

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:52 AM

Is the timing of this visit very opportune or extremely unfortunate: It depends on his capacity to maintain an unbiased peaceful stance in the face of current sentiment

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:05 AM

Sounds pretty stupid to me. What is to be accomplished. My god can beat up your god type bs.  If Pope goes boom we have an issue. Could the pope be another sacrifitial lamb.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:13 AM

One of three things will result of this:
Nothing at all - most likely.
He gets assassinated - Scariest.
Peace breaks out/negotiations ensure that eventually lead to peace - least likely and most likely to prove God actually exists.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:45 AM

I hope the guy can be protected.  The trip probably should have been postponed.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:45 AM

He could have delivered a message of peace from Rome. It takes only an opportune moment and a few fanatics or terrorists for the whole situation to explode and deteriorate even more. It is not risky just for the Pope, but for the whole region, and beyond, as well.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:23 AM

View Postmeryt-tetisheri, on 15 September 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

He could have delivered a message of peace from Rome. It takes only an opportune moment and a few fanatics or terrorists for the whole situation to explode and deteriorate even more. It is not risky just for the Pope, but for the whole region, and beyond, as well.

Ya war over a make believe something. Who if the bigger fool the one who leads or the one who follows

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:28 AM

I don't see why the Pope should be unbiased on anything. He's the Pope, the lead guy of the Catholics. Unbiased my booty.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:53 AM

View PostHasina, on 15 September 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

I don't see why the Pope should be unbiased on anything. He's the Pope, the lead guy of the Catholics. Unbiased my booty.

to create conflict. It's planned to do just that. Harmoney would not benifit either side as a war of faith means souls not lives.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:31 AM

View Postmeryt-tetisheri, on 15 September 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

He could have delivered a message of peace from Rome. It takes only an opportune moment and a few fanatics or terrorists for the whole situation to explode and deteriorate even more. It is not risky just for the Pope, but for the whole region, and beyond, as well.
Saying "stop fighting, give peace a chance" is easy when you're not in danger.
Jesus didn't stay in Bethlehem, he went where God called him to, obviously the same is true for His Holiness.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:28 AM

How interesting, just watching CNN and what is being portrayed is that Benedict is encouraging the continuing message that "democracy and theocracy do not mix" - and "only within a secular run state can true freedom of religion be expressed by all faiths".

I have had cause to think very little of Benedict in past years - which makes this progression all the more outstanding.

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Edited by libstaK, 15 September 2012 - 10:29 AM.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:52 AM

yes, because the head of state who just happens to be the head of a religon followed by millions of people is exactly the sort of person who should be talking about keeping theocrcy out of politcs...

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:49 PM

Aye, he had the cheek to call for an end to religious fundamentalism. :D


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 15 September 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Saying "stop fighting, give peace a chance" is easy when you're not in danger.
Jesus didn't stay in Bethlehem, he went where God called him to, obviously the same is true for His Holiness.

Yes, and Peter went back to Rome to be crucified, but in both cases armies, drones & explosives weren't involved. What do you expect the reaction of the Maronites would be if something happens to the Pope during his visit? Lebanon will ignite in minutes, there could be violance,destruction & lives would be lost!  When Jesus was arrested he told his disciple to put away his sword, circumstances are different and so will be the consequences.

For some fanatical people the Vatican is an imaginary Christian power, to deliver a message that theocracy and democracy do not mix, at the time when their power and influence is on the rise will be regarded by them as nothing less than a challenge brought to them at their door step.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 15 September 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

yes, because the head of state who just happens to be the head of a religon followed by millions of people is exactly the sort of person who should be talking about keeping theocrcy out of politcs...

That was awesome lol

Theocracy is a form of government in which official policy is governed by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided, or is pursuant to the doctrine of a particular religion or religious group


nope don't see an opposing religion having an issue with this LOL

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 06:00 PM

Oh well,the " End of Days " lobby will be busy flicking through the collection of stories known as the Bible to see where this fits into their phrophecy...

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